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Are there plans for Paizo to release any new Words of Power for spellcasting at any time? There seem to be some strange gaps in them (for example, no words that can boost your mental stats, like you can your physical stats?), and I would like to see a lot more words so that I don't feel like I am giving up sooo many options that the regular spell effects can create. Or is that something I will need to add to via homebrew?
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I am just starting to play with the system, but I like it.
Words of Power is also Open Game Content, so any 3PP could pick the idea up and run with it. :)
Words of Power is also Open Game Content, so any 3PP could pick the idea up and run with it. :)
I'd hate to be dependent on third party for something like that, they aren't an option to me.
Words of Power is also Open Game Content, so any 3PP could pick the idea up and run with it. :)
Yeah, as with the above poster, my group tends to steer clear of 3rd party content for our games, mostly because we aren't sure they put as much care as Paizo into trying to maintain system balance, and because we already have a lot of books to keep track of just keeping pace with core :) We love Paizo the best!
Add one +1 to the tally for me will ya? I endorse this idea as well, I like the Words of Power and will be trying my hand with them on my up coming campaign, is it really lacking comparing to spell preparation?
Add one +1 to the tally for me will ya? I endorse this idea as well, I like the Words of Power and will be trying my hand with them on my up coming campaign, is it really lacking comparing to spell preparation?
I'm not quite 100% sure what you mean by hat last sentence, but it seems a lot more useful for spontaneous casters than prepared, imho. I'm trying it out with a sorcerer starting from level 1 though, and it seems really fun so far! Complex, yes, but a lot of fun :)
My apologies, I meant how well does it stack up against normal spell preparation, in other words, what would a Wizard say about using WoP instead?
I really like the concept but I don't know for certain if it would be too crippling or confusing, from what I can gather, a fire ball would be a 5th level spell if I got things right
Burst(1lv) Fire Blast(3lv) Boost (1lv)
I can get the idea of Fire Blast having less AoE than Fire Ball without the boost, but the Burst word says it's Lv1, so it would add a level to the spell right? meaning that Burst Fire Blast as is, is level 4, and boosted in order to compare with Fireball, it's level 5.
I am pretty sure I am missing something here... could anyone elaborate?
My apologies, I meant how well does it stack up against normal spell preparation, in other words, what would a Wizard say about using WoP instead?
I really like the concept but I don't know for certain if it would be too crippling or confusing, from what I can gather, a fire ball would be a 5th level spell if I got things right
Burst(1lv) Fire Blast(3lv) Boost (1lv)
I can get the idea of Fire Blast having less AoE than Fire Ball without the boost, but the Burst word says it's Lv1, so it would add a level to the spell right? meaning that Burst Fire Blast as is, is level 4, and boosted in order to compare with Fireball, it's level 5.
I am pretty sure I am missing something here... could anyone elaborate?
Typically, only the effect words change the level of the spell as per the chart on pg 164. The level of the Target word is the minimum spell level the wordspell needs to be to use that target word. The Same is true for the meta words, but the meta words might change the level of the spell, if it is listed in the description.
you got the right spell level, but for the wrong reason I think. In this case, you are modifying the word Burst with the word Boost, at which point you can select a medium range 20 ft burst for a +2 level adjustment, or a long range 40 ft burst for a +4 level adjustment.
I think the system is less useful for prepared casters, even if they do get to use more of the words. You won't be able to truly mimic regular spells, but you can get somewhat close. The main idea here is flexibility. Know you're going up against that pesky Red dragon? well instead of burst fire blast (3rd lvl spell), just swap out a word and apply a metamagic feat, and you have an intensified Burst Frost Fingers and you have an iceball spell, max 10d6 of dmg, 10ft radius, and possibly stagger a creature, 3rd lvl spell.
Words of Power is also Open Game Content, so any 3PP could pick the idea up and run with it. :)Yeah, as with the above poster, my group tends to steer clear of 3rd party content for our games, mostly because we aren't sure they put as much care as Paizo into trying to maintain system balance, and because we already have a lot of books to keep track of just keeping pace with core :) We love Paizo the best!
Most of the broken things power-wise that I have seen is from Paizo. Hello, synthesist.
SGG is good quality. Their main guy even does stuff for Paizo.
The blanket denial of 3rd party stuff just seems silly to me.
I am pretty sure I am missing something here... could anyone elaborate?
Typically, only the effect words change the level of the spell as per the chart on pg 164. The level of the Target word is the minimum spell level the wordspell needs to be to use that target word. The Same is true for the meta words, but the meta words might change the level of the spell, if it is listed in the description.
you got the right spell level, but for the wrong reason I think. In this case, you are modifying the word Burst with the word Boost, at which point you can select a medium range 20 ft burst for a +2 level adjustment, or a long range 40 ft burst for a +4 level adjustment.
I think the system is less useful for prepared casters, even if they do get to use more of the words. You won't be able to truly mimic regular spells, but you can get somewhat close. The main idea here is flexibility. Know you're going up against that pesky Red dragon? well instead of burst fire blast (3rd lvl spell), just swap out a word and apply a metamagic feat, and you have an intensified Burst Frost Fingers and you have an iceball spell, max 10d6 of dmg, 10ft radius, and possibly stagger a creature, 3rd lvl spell.
I see, thanks a lot for clarify that for me, I know that you can't really replicate the same spells, I believe even the side bar explicitly says so, I was just a little confused about the actual spell level of the Words before firing them, and I agree that the idea of flexibility is, IMHO, more attractive even if classic spells like fireball are not really replicable(not in the same way, at least)
I am liking the Words of Power none the less, it's actually the flavor of the concept that I really like. Hope we can get some expansions on it in the future.
Most of the broken things power-wise that I have seen is from Paizo. Hello, synthesist.
SGG is good quality. Their main guy even does stuff for Paizo.
The blanket denial of 3rd party stuff just seems silly to me.
It's not a blanket denial of 3rd party stuff, it's more of a money thing, streamlining thing, and name brand recognition thing. For example, there are certain car brands I would not buy, I only buy nintendo Brand accessories for my nintendo systems, There are certain brands of computer and computer accessories I won't buy.
I know Paizo, I have a relationship with them, experience with them, and have found the balance to be very good in all respects, and my entire gaming group does min-maxing because we think it is fun. I allow lots of non core stuff, do plenty of homebrew stuff, and am willing to listen to any requests from my players on stuff they create.
That being said, I still would rather have more Words directly from Paizo than needing to rely on 3PP, since my group tends to stick more with the core products.
