Flat footed

[Klaam]

Why is someone blinded not flat footed? And why is someone Stunned not flat footed? Would it be a bad idea to houserule those?

[painted_green]

You are flat-footed to anything that is hidden from or undetected by you, so if you are blinded and vision is your only precise sense, blinded does make you flat-footed. It is not written directly into the condition because other creatures may be able to rely on other senses, such as echolocation, to offset the blindness.

[Bidmaron]

The first line of the flat-footed condition states
“You’re distracted or otherwise unable to focus your full attention on defense.”
The other poster took care of blinded but the stunned condition implicitly invoked flat-footed from this statement IMO and there is no need to house rule it. The sidebar a page or two later talks in more detail about stunned and related conditions and states you cannot act, which clearly means you are unable to focus your full attention on defense and would be flat-footed.

[Xenocrat]

Bidmaron wrote:

The first line of the flat-footed condition states

“You’re distracted or otherwise unable to focus your full attention on defense.”
The other poster took care of blinded but the stunned condition implicitly invoked flat-footed from this statement IMO and there is no need to house rule it. The sidebar a page or two later talks in more detail about stunned and related conditions and states you cannot act, which clearly means you are unable to focus your full attention on defense and would be flat-footed.

Conditions in PF2 only do what they say they do, and stunned only takes away actions. It definitely doesn't make you flat-footed.

[shroudb]

Let alone that stunned in this edition actually allows you some actions in a lot of cases (stunned 1/2) it certainly doesn't inhibits your defense.

What you're probably thinking, aka immobilised +can't act+ can't respond, is paralysed, not merely stunned.