Skill point PrC question


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A player asked me in a game going one this question.

He is trying to start a PrC and needs a requirement of 5 to a certain skill. He already meets the rest of the PrC requirements. Does he have to wait till level 6 or can he start at level 5. Does skill points go up once you level up or after you declare the class to level in?

Thanks


Red-Assassin wrote:

A player asked me in a game going one this question.

He is trying to start a PrC and needs a requirement of 5 to a certain skill. He already meets the rest of the PrC requirements. Does he have to wait till level 6 or can he start at level 5. Does skill points go up once you level up or after you declare the class to level in?

Thanks

He cannot get 5 ranks in the skill until after he has 5 character levels. He can start the PrC at level 6 at the earliest


Think of it this way:

Skill points are based of your class (and int. modifier), so you have to select a class before you get the skill points. This means that you only can have 4 ranks in a skill when you choose your class at lvl 5


Thanks yeah I was thinking the same this is during organized play needed a quick answer.

Grand Lodge

Red-Assassin wrote:

A player asked me in a game going one this question.

He is trying to start a PrC and needs a requirement of 5 to a certain skill. He already meets the rest of the PrC requirements. Does he have to wait till level 6 or can he start at level 5. Does skill points go up once you level up or after you declare the class to level in?

You must meet the prerequisites for a prestige class before you take a level in that class - not from anything you get for that level.

To answer your question more generally, the number of skill points depends on which class you choose, so you have to pick a class before you can get skill points.


Starglim wrote:
Red-Assassin wrote:

A player asked me in a game going one this question.

He is trying to start a PrC and needs a requirement of 5 to a certain skill. He already meets the rest of the PrC requirements. Does he have to wait till level 6 or can he start at level 5. Does skill points go up once you level up or after you declare the class to level in?

You must meet the prerequisites for a prestige class before you take a level in that class - not from anything you get for that level.

To answer your question more generally, the number of skill points depends on which class you choose, so you have to pick a class before you can get skill points.

No class awards 0 skills points.

You can declare 2 skills points before declaring the class that you level into.


Sloppycrane wrote:

No class awards 0 skills points.

You can declare 2 skills points before declaring the class that you level into.

What about a fighter with negative int modifier? He doesn't get 2 skill points.

So what's the deal with him?

I'm very inclined to say that's not a rule and you are making it up. Though I might be wrong so I'll give you the benefit of the t doubt for now.

Dark Archive

Karel Gheysens wrote:
Sloppycrane wrote:

No class awards 0 skills points.

You can declare 2 skills points before declaring the class that you level into.

What about a fighter with negative int modifier? He doesn't get 2 skill points.

So what's the deal with him?

I'm very inclined to say that's not a rule and you are making it up. Though I might be wrong so I'll give you the benefit of the t doubt for now.

Its minimum 1 skill point after int mod. After that you can add your 1 skill point for favored class (if applicable). Also humans get 1 skill point after int mod adj.

So a human fighter with a 3 int can still get 3 skill points a level

Skill points are NOT independant of class. Its a package deal. If a prestige class requires 5 ranks, you can take it at 6th level. No earlier.


Sloppycrane wrote:
Starglim wrote:
Red-Assassin wrote:

A player asked me in a game going one this question.

He is trying to start a PrC and needs a requirement of 5 to a certain skill. He already meets the rest of the PrC requirements. Does he have to wait till level 6 or can he start at level 5. Does skill points go up once you level up or after you declare the class to level in?

You must meet the prerequisites for a prestige class before you take a level in that class - not from anything you get for that level.

To answer your question more generally, the number of skill points depends on which class you choose, so you have to pick a class before you can get skill points.

No class awards 0 skills points.

You can declare 2 skills points before declaring the class that you level into.

If you read the section called "Advancing Your Character" (p30 in the core rulebook) it says "...make sure you take the folowing steps in order. First, select your new class level. You must be able to qualify for this level before any of the following adjustments are made. [...]. Finally, add new skills and feats."

To me that states very clearly that you can't declare any skill points before choosing your class.

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