Simple question. If a summoner grants himself martial weapon proficiency by granting himself the weapon training evolution (with greater aspect) does that allow him to take levels in eldritch knight without having to take levels in say... fighter? The only real issue I see is that the summoner could theoretically change the evolution later, but I would simply rule that since he used it for a prerequisite that he would have to stick with it (similar to the fighter's ability to change his feats).
Of course, I know that in most cases a summoner would never want eldritch knight levels since his eidolon would stop growing, but that's not the question here ;)
Yes it does, but if you lost the prereqs to a PrC then no longer have access to the special abilities of that PrC.
That is how it was in 3.5 anyway.
Yes it does, but if you lost the prereqs to a PrC then no longer have access to the special abilities of that PrC.
That is how it was in 3.5 anyway.
Ahh, I didn't know 3.5 rules covered that situation. I guess I will assume that it works the same way in pathfinder (assuming no more info comes in). Thanks!
Ahh, I didn't know 3.5 rules covered that situation. I guess I will assume that it works the same way in pathfinder (assuming no more info comes in). Thanks!Yes it does, but if you lost the prereqs to a PrC then no longer have access to the special abilities of that PrC.
That is how it was in 3.5 anyway.
That is my memory of how it works. In any event the result was not good. I will try to find an official response which is on my computer somewhere.
In 3.X you used the 3.0 rule unless 3.5 overuled it.
Originally Posted by 3.0 DMG page 27
Should a character find herself in a position (changed alignment, lost levels, and so on) where she no longer meets the requirements of a prestige class, she loses all special abilities (but not HD, base attack bonus, or base saves) gained from levels of the pestige class.
3.5 is not a different game from 3.0, but only an update so I would say that still applies unless otherwise stated.
PS:CW(Complete Warrior, 3.5)-agrees with the above statement, page 16
In 3.X you used the 3.0 rule unless 3.5 overuled it.
Originally Posted by 3.0 DMG page 27
Should a character find herself in a position (changed alignment, lost levels, and so on) where she no longer meets the requirements of a prestige class, she loses all special abilities (but not HD, base attack bonus, or base saves) gained from levels of the pestige class.3.5 is not a different game from 3.0, but only an update so I would say that still applies unless otherwise stated.
PS:CW(Complete Warrior, 3.5)-agrees with the above statement, page 16
Cool, I actually have Complete Warrior. It is weird how some of these rules aren't in the core rulebooks XD
Cool, I actually have Complete Warrior. It is weird how some of these rules aren't in the core rulebooks XDIn 3.X you used the 3.0 rule unless 3.5 overuled it.
Originally Posted by 3.0 DMG page 27
Should a character find herself in a position (changed alignment, lost levels, and so on) where she no longer meets the requirements of a prestige class, she loses all special abilities (but not HD, base attack bonus, or base saves) gained from levels of the pestige class.3.5 is not a different game from 3.0, but only an update so I would say that still applies unless otherwise stated.
PS:CW(Complete Warrior, 3.5)-agrees with the above statement, page 16
I think they did not think about them or just forgot to include them in the core books. They should have just put them in as errata instead of a supplemental book though.
http://paizo.com/paizo/messageboards/community/offTopic/askJamesJacobsAllYo urQuestionsHere&page=158#7896
harmor wrote:
...should we assume that these requirements are for each level not just the first to become an Assassin?
The requirements to become an assassin are not the same as the requirements to remain an assassin. Once you qualify for a prestige class, you can keep taking levels in it even if through some weird effect you lose some of those qualifications. Losing things like that is rare and unusual, so it's a case-by-case scenario, really, that the GM would have to adjudicate as they came up, actually.
In the case of the assassin though... doing a lot of the things assassins do would be likely to skew you toward evil anyway is all I'm saying.
So according to James you can keep taking Eldritch Knight Levels, if your GM approves
In 3.X you used the 3.0 rule unless 3.5 overuled it.
Originally Posted by 3.0 DMG page 27
Should a character find herself in a position (changed alignment, lost levels, and so on) where she no longer meets the requirements of a prestige class, she loses all special abilities (but not HD, base attack bonus, or base saves) gained from levels of the pestige class.3.5 is not a different game from 3.0, but only an update so I would say that still applies unless otherwise stated.
PS:CW(Complete Warrior, 3.5)-agrees with the above statement, page 16
I don't think an equivalent rule exists in Pathfinder, however.
http://paizo.com/paizo/messageboards/community/offTopic/askJamesJacobsAllYo urQuestionsHere&page=158#7896
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So according to James you can keep taking Eldritch Knight Levels, if your GM approves
Ahh, that's cool. Well, I have a feeling my GM would prefer if I kept the martial weapon proficiency, but it is cool that James commented on these sorts of things ;)