Can scent be used to detect them? Do they smell like gas, or do they smell like a person or Vampire even when gaseous?
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I would say that scent can be used to track them. It presents some challenges since they fly. A person being tracked who then goes gaseous might have his scent change as the previous scent was from his outside but the current scent is from his entire gaseous body.
Also if they squeeze through tiny cracks and openings then good luck following the trail.
That's a good question. I've had plenty of fun using vampires in gaseous form in the area of an obscuring mist or a fog cloud. Luckily, none of my PCs ever thought about using scent to detect them.
That's a good question. I've had plenty of fun using vampires in gaseous form in the area of an obscuring mist or a fog cloud. Luckily, none of my PCs ever thought about using scent to detect them.
Yea mine did, they have Wolf companion and wanted to know if the wolf could scent the Vampire, not track, just smell the presence of an invisible gaseous vampire. My first reaction is no it smells like gas not vampire
Can scent be used to detect them? Do they smell like gas, or do they smell like a person or Vampire even when gaseous?New Spell: Flatulent Form
Functions like Gaseous form, except one level lower. It can be dispelled by lighting a tindertwig.
Wouldn't lighting a tinder twig in a flatulent form be a save or die effect? At the very least fire damage.
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That's a good question. I've had plenty of fun using vampires in gaseous form in the area of an obscuring mist or a fog cloud. Luckily, none of my PCs ever thought about using scent to detect them.Yea mine did, they have Wolf companion and wanted to know if the wolf could scent the Vampire, not track, just smell the presence of an invisible gaseous vampire. My first reaction is no it smells like gas not vampire
Why not? Gaseous form isn't really meant to be a stealthy effect so much as "You can't touch me and I can squeeze into tiny ridiculous places".
Strangely gaseous form doesn't even give you a bonus to stealth.
I would doubt that gaseous form has a different scent than your base form, not because of fluff,
but because all polymorph spells now don`t change anything except what they explicitly state (themselves or in general PM rules)
...Which is another wierd thing for PRPG Polymorph/Wildshapers... Especially for Druids that seems wierd, but RAW...
(i.e. not only are their stats off from normal, but any animal could smell them out as not a real WHATEVER-THEY-ARE-WILDSHAPED-AS)
The title of this thread made me LOL. You win, sir.
And to be on topic, I'd say creatures with scent ability could still detect something in gaseous form.
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Actually... I just re-read Gaseous form and it kind of sucks...
The subject and all its gear become insubstantial, misty, and translucent. Its material armor (including natural armor) becomes worthless, though its size, Dexterity, deflection bonuses, and armor bonuses from force effects still apply. The subject gains DR 10/magic and becomes immune to poison, sneak attacks, and critical hits. It can't attack or cast spells with verbal, somatic, material, or focus components while in gaseous form. This does not rule out the use of certain spells that the subject may have prepared using the feats Silent Spell, Still Spell, and Eschew Materials. The subject also loses supernatural abilities while in gaseous form. If it has a touch spell ready to use, that spell is discharged harmlessly when the gaseous form spell takes effect.
So you take a fairly big hit to AC, can't really do anything offensive, move terribly slowly, and you aren't truly incorporeal. When characters get magic weapons at 3-4th level DR 10/ magic just isn't very good at all. Even non-magic weapons can smash through your DR.
I think vamps are impossible to destroy while in gaseous form which makes it good for them but otherwise it's not that good.
Actually... I just re-read Gaseous form and it kind of sucks...
The subject and all its gear become insubstantial, misty, and translucent. Its material armor (including natural armor) becomes worthless, though its size, Dexterity, deflection bonuses, and armor bonuses from force effects still apply. The subject gains DR 10/magic and becomes immune to poison, sneak attacks, and critical hits. It can't attack or cast spells with verbal, somatic, material, or focus components while in gaseous form. This does not rule out the use of certain spells that the subject may have prepared using the feats Silent Spell, Still Spell, and Eschew Materials. The subject also loses supernatural abilities while in gaseous form. If it has a touch spell ready to use, that spell is discharged harmlessly when the gaseous form spell takes effect.So you take a fairly big hit to AC, can't really do anything offensive, move terribly slowly, and you aren't truly incorporeal. When characters get magic weapons at 3-4th level DR 10/ magic just isn't very good at all. Even non-magic weapons can smash through your DR.
I think vamps are impossible to destroy while in gaseous form which makes it good for them but otherwise it's not that good.
Yea it was nerfed big time. But Vampires in that form take no damage, so its good for them.
Edit: Vampires forced to gaseous form by reaching zero HPs take no damage, vampires willingly taking gaseous form can