If a PFS character has the Breadth of Experience feat, does that mean the character could earn "day job" money for each session?
Why would the feat possibly matter?
If a PFS character has the Breadth of Experience feat, does that mean the character could earn "day job" money for each session?
If they choose to roll Profession (whatever) than they would get a +2 bonus and they could do it untrained. Past that follow profession rules.
Edit: P.S. one of my favorite feats for an elf.
Huh. My GM sometimes lets us use profession checks in place of other skill checks. This feat may have more uses than I thought.
...so if ever I need the skills of a...
architect, baker, barrister, brewer, butcher, clerk, cook, courtesan, driver, engineer, farmer, fisherman, gambler, gardener, herbalist, innkeeper, librarian, merchant, midwife, miller, miner, porter, sailor, scribe, shepherd, stable master, soldier, tanner, trapper, and woodcutter.
Blam! I can use it.
It's an awesome flavor feat for the long lived races. I absolutely love it.
OH yes!!!
My 'Sherlock holmes' Detective took that for his first feat. +2 to all knowledge skills? and untrained??
Oh yes....
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Sadly, my character will not take the feat until 9th level. She is an elvish rogue 5th level now, and I plan to take TWF at 7th. I suppose the day job income is trivial compared to the scenario reward, but the ability to use ANY profession or knowledge untrained is worth the feat.
By RAW the feat is open to elves, dwarves and gnomes, but in organized play very few dwarves or gnomes will reach 100 years of age before forced retirement.
Sadly, my character will not take the feat until 9th level. She is an elvish rogue 5th level now, and I plan to take TWF at 7th. I suppose the day job income is trivial compared to the scenario reward, but the ability to use ANY profession or knowledge untrained is worth the feat.
By RAW the feat is open to elves, dwarves and gnomes, but in organized play very few dwarves or gnomes will reach 100 years of age before forced retirement.
I don't understand why this feat is required.
You could also spend weeks working a real profession, for the cost of 1 skill point. That will likely put you +2 up on this feat.
If the DM won't allow Profession checks (which typically represent a week of effort), being able to make them untrained will not change that.
Sadly, my character will not take the feat until 9th level. She is an elvish rogue 5th level now, and I plan to take TWF at 7th. I suppose the day job income is trivial compared to the scenario reward, but the ability to use ANY profession or knowledge untrained is worth the feat.
By RAW the feat is open to elves, dwarves and gnomes, but in organized play very few dwarves or gnomes will reach 100 years of age before forced retirement.
I don't understand why this feat is required.
You could also spend weeks working a real profession, for the cost of 1 skill point. That will likely put you +2 up on this feat.
If the DM won't allow Profession checks (which typically represent a week of effort), being able to make them untrained will not change that.
You dont need this or any other feat for a profession. Just a point in the skill.
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You dont need this or any other feat for a profession. Just a point in the skill.Sadly, my character will not take the feat until 9th level. She is an elvish rogue 5th level now, and I plan to take TWF at 7th. I suppose the day job income is trivial compared to the scenario reward, but the ability to use ANY profession or knowledge untrained is worth the feat.
By RAW the feat is open to elves, dwarves and gnomes, but in organized play very few dwarves or gnomes will reach 100 years of age before forced retirement.
I don't understand why this feat is required.
You could also spend weeks working a real profession, for the cost of 1 skill point. That will likely put you +2 up on this feat.
If the DM won't allow Profession checks (which typically represent a week of effort), being able to make them untrained will not change that.
incorrect - trained only
incorrect - trained onlyYou dont need this or any other feat for a profession. Just a point in the skill.Sadly, my character will not take the feat until 9th level. She is an elvish rogue 5th level now, and I plan to take TWF at 7th. I suppose the day job income is trivial compared to the scenario reward, but the ability to use ANY profession or knowledge untrained is worth the feat.
By RAW the feat is open to elves, dwarves and gnomes, but in organized play very few dwarves or gnomes will reach 100 years of age before forced retirement.
I don't understand why this feat is required.
You could also spend weeks working a real profession, for the cost of 1 skill point. That will likely put you +2 up on this feat.
If the DM won't allow Profession checks (which typically represent a week of effort), being able to make them untrained will not change that.
Read again. You dont need a feat to have a profession. You need a skill point in profession.
incorrect - trained onlyYou dont need this or any other feat for a profession. Just a point in the skill.Sadly, my character will not take the feat until 9th level. She is an elvish rogue 5th level now, and I plan to take TWF at 7th. I suppose the day job income is trivial compared to the scenario reward, but the ability to use ANY profession or knowledge untrained is worth the feat.
By RAW the feat is open to elves, dwarves and gnomes, but in organized play very few dwarves or gnomes will reach 100 years of age before forced retirement.
I don't understand why this feat is required.
You could also spend weeks working a real profession, for the cost of 1 skill point. That will likely put you +2 up on this feat.
If the DM won't allow Profession checks (which typically represent a week of effort), being able to make them untrained will not change that.
Reading fail, both I and TCG mentioned that you need to spend a skill point.
None of which answers my question. Why would this feat allow you to make use of profession in any circumstance where profession was not normally allowed?
Reading fail, both I and TCG mentioned that you need to spend a skill point.
None of which answers my question. Why would this feat allow you to make use of profession in any circumstance where profession was not normally allowed?
Per the feat, yes you may use knowledges and professions untrained.
Feat in question:
You get a +2 bonus on all Knowledge and Profession skill checks, and can make checks with those skills untrained.
So you can make any knowledge or profession skill check untrained and you get a +2 to all knowledge and profession skill checks.
It's the combination of a nice boost to your knowledge skills, the ability to use them even if you don't have ranks, and same for the profession skills (though possibly of slightly less use).
Feat in question:
You get a +2 bonus on all Knowledge and Profession skill checks, and can make checks with those skills untrained.So you can make any knowledge or profession skill check untrained and you get a +2 to all knowledge and profession skill checks.
It's the combination of a nice boost to your knowledge skills, the ability to use them even if you don't have ranks, and same for the profession skills (though possibly of slightly less use).
Correct. It's a good feat for the long lived races. I studies ________ for about 20 years. It was an amusing diversion.
Per the feat, yes you may use knowledges and professions untrained.
Reading fail, both I and TCG mentioned that you need to spend a skill point.
None of which answers my question. Why would this feat allow you to make use of profession in any circumstance where profession was not normally allowed?
I don't mean unallowed by inability.
I mean unallowed because the DM doesn't allow you to spend a week earning 17 sp or whatever minor amount of cash you scrape together with this. You're adventuring, not minding a store or cobbling shoes.
Please. The ability to make any knowledge check untrained alone is worth it if you're not a bard. And if you are a bard, it's still not useless (even the possibility of ending up with +30-something to every single knowledge check would be so ridiculous in campaigns I've played in AND run)
Please. The ability to make any knowledge check untrained alone is worth it if you're not a bard. And if you are a bard, it's still not useless (even the possibility of ending up with +30-something to every single knowledge check would be so ridiculous in campaigns I've played in AND run)
No one has said the feat wasn't worthwhile. Merely that it was in no way required for what the OP implied it was.
Please. The ability to make any knowledge check untrained alone is worth it if you're not a bard. And if you are a bard, it's still not useless (even the possibility of ending up with +30-something to every single knowledge check would be so ridiculous in campaigns I've played in AND run)No one has said the feat wasn't worthwhile. Merely that it was in no way required for what the OP implied it was.
Fair enough. Still. I'd take it on top of profession if I wanted to work a day job.
Slightly related: Profession(apothecary) is one of the most useful useless skills in the game.
In regards to the OP, you can only make a Day Job roll in PFS if you put at least 1 skill point into the skill. The Day Job roll is not actually a skill roll, it is separate and only allows certain bonuses to be applied (feat bonuses are one of them, but it would not change the base requirement of having spent a point to train in the basics).
Please note this is completely different than the normal rules to use a craft/profession to make money as described in the core rules. It is a PFS specific rule.
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