Crimson Jester |
Crimson Jester wrote:To go back on subject for only a moment, Leafar's insanity being much more interesting than the actual subject, I had a disturbing idea. Since this guy has called Mulligan once already, what if he and say 20-25 of his followers vanish. It could be a suicide pact, or simply going into seclusion in the middle of Alaska. I mean if he truly believes that Saturday is the end then he surely does not have a show planned for Sunday or Monday. So instead of an "Oops my bad" he and a small group vanish as if to say "told you so."If every one of these prophets of doom and their sad little band of followers vanished when they scheduled apocalypse arrived it would, at least in some small way, curb the growth of crazy. It is of course unfortunate that the crackpot Heaven's Gate whackjob conned a bunch of people into killing themselves, but the small silver lining is that we don't have any more people taking him seriously.
But what will really happen is that the ones who are, by the standards of the group, halfway sane will desert him. The really crazy ones will forge ahead and be even loopier next time around. When you bungle something big like this, you don't exactly keep the fence-sitting members of the group.
Yeah, that is what happened to the Millerite movement. 1844 the second coming, turns into an oops I miss-calculated. Which in turn became an even bigger event in 1845, which was afterwords called the great disappointment.
Crimson Jester |
Crimson Jester wrote:Yes,I was just curious if after the May 21st "deadline" doesn't quite "pan out" everyone here will move on to a new "deadline" or just say "Hey we're still here! Well isn't that weird? Oh well. Hey,who wants to head on down to da diner and get some chezburgers?" Know what I mean? Like wasn't it supposed to end in 2000? I personally like what some people here are saying about that we aren't supposed to know or that we can't know. Guess that's one benefit of subscribing to an organized religion. Once in a while ya find something in it that makes ya realize there's no sense in worrying.CommaMaster wrote:Haven't people being saying 2012 for a few years now anyway?Ok,so the world ends tommorow. I'll roll with that. I can dig it. With a shovel. Like a grave. But it leaves me with two questions
1. How many of y'all are gonna post at 12:A.M. on the 22nd saying "HA! IN YOUR FAAACE! STILL HEEERE!!!"?
2. How many of y'all will then proceed to post on or create a 2012 doomsday thread?
Organized religion is not the issue. This guy, is anti organized religion, saying that the churches have messed up which is why he can even calculate the date. he is not a pastor or even part of a church, just a guy with a radio show, who has a bunch of people worked up.
CommaMaster |
Apparently I need to reread what I type before posting. My post was actually in favor of religion. I was referring to what others in this thread said about the Bible (And Christ) saying that we can't know when the end times will come. If that's true,then there's no sense in worrying since they probably got the date wrong because they cannot know. This would be quite a mental relief,and I owe it all to religion.
Samnell |
Yeah, that is what happened to the Millerite movement. 1844 the second coming, turns into an oops I miss-calculated. Which in turn became an even bigger event in 1845, which was afterwords called the great disappointment.
It gets worse. The Millerites didn't go away, but rather splintered into a whole family of sects which kept on predicting. They've gotten savvier over time, though. Now the most prominent such sect is careful to hedge its bets and strongly imply that the End comes in X year, but never quite comes out and says it. Then when the year passes a new numerological formula comes out.
Reminds me of those old cartoons where some blowhard dared someone else to step across a line and if so, he'd give them a good beating. The other person steps over the line and suddenly there's a new line in the sand and more shrill threats.
Kruelaid |
It gets worse. The Millerites didn't go away, but rather splintered into a whole family of sects which kept on predicting. They've gotten savvier over time, though. Now the most prominent such sect is careful to hedge its bets and strongly imply that the End comes in X year, but never quite comes out and says it. Then when the year passes a new numerological formula comes out.
I love this.
I had a prof who had a lot of fun with this scenario. It repeats all the way back through to the Hebrew scriptures. People predict all kinds of stuff and they're right about as often as anyone else, which is 99.9% wrong. The moment some dude is right though, it gets gilded, hammered in stone, and suddenly we have a new prophet. Seems to me that it's kind of like holding up our lotto winner as the most blessed of the lord.
*This was during a long and sometimes contentious seminar on prophesy, during a Hebrew scriptures theology course.*
Shadowborn |
Well, tomorrow is the Rapture. Those of true malice shall be taken to hell, to be punished for their sins.
Bye, Sebastian! We'll miss you!
We won't.
You've got that one backwards, KC. The chosen ascend into Heaven during the Rapture, avoiding the end of the world and the coming of the Antichrist. There's something in there about guys riding horses, or ponies, or something, so I'm sure Sebastian's involved somehow.
Those of us left behind get to be involved in a real version of one giant post-apocalyptic LARP, so I suppose that's something of a consolation prize to some.
Crimson Jester |
Samnell wrote:It gets worse. The Millerites didn't go away, but rather splintered into a whole family of sects which kept on predicting. They've gotten savvier over time, though. Now the most prominent such sect is careful to hedge its bets and strongly imply that the End comes in X year, but never quite comes out and says it. Then when the year passes a new numerological formula comes out.I love this.
I had a prof who had a lot of fun with this scenario. It repeats all the way back through to the Hebrew scriptures. People predict all kinds of stuff and they're right about as often as anyone else, which is 99.9% wrong. The moment some dude is right though, it gets gilded, hammered in stone, and suddenly we have a new prophet. Seems to me that it's kind of like holding up our lotto winner as the most blessed of the lord.
*This was during a long and sometimes contentious seminar on prophesy, during a Hebrew scriptures theology course.*
It's funny the Prophets of the OT, generally just said "your not doing it right." It was not until much later that Prophets assumed oracular standings.
Shadowborn |
I hope when the Rapture comes, we non-believers have our acts together enough to loot the homes of the rich believers in an orderly fashion. I'd like to think so, but large groups of people are rough to spontaneously organize.
That presupposes that the rich will get into Heaven. "Eye of the needle...blessed are the poor," and all that.
Samnell |
Samnell wrote:I hope when the Rapture comes, we non-believers have our acts together enough to loot the homes of the rich believers in an orderly fashion. I'd like to think so, but large groups of people are rough to spontaneously organize.That presupposes that the rich will get into Heaven. "Eye of the needle...blessed are the poor," and all that.
That's commie talk, like saying Jesus didn't speak Jacobean English.
Elton |
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There's no Pope of African descent, yet. So I think we are safe.
Benchak the Nightstalker Contributor, RPG Superstar 2010 Top 8 |
The Raptor is coming, RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!
The day of the Raptor is upon us! That's when the Armageddon comes...not from the front, but from the side-WHOOSH! From the other two Jesuses you didn't even know were there....
GRU |
Daniel Moyer wrote:The Raptor is coming, RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!I said rapture.
Maybe it IS true! Wait, think about it...
Somewhere a raptor turns up, gets shot and eaten by a local farmer:
"Dang lizzarhd! serves you right for molesterin' my powltry!"
And we'd never know - the prophesy's true, but we unbelievers will keep making snide comments - BUT - IT CAME TO PASS!!!
time for a cup of coffee,
GRU
Leafar the Lost |
The earthquakes, the Tsumani that struck Japan, the nuclear power plant disaster than sent lethal radiation all over the world, and the death of Randy "Macho-Man" Savage yesterday...all of these Signs point a blood-red arrow to the Apocalypse and the Rapture, which will occur at 6:00 PM Eastern time today. According to the prophet Harold Camping, this is it.
It has been 7,000 years since the Great Flood destroyed the world, and Noah restarted humanity. This time around it will be earthquakes which will destroy the world, followed by fires, floods, famine, and numerous blood storms. All of this is fact and cannot be denied.
Therefore, now is the time to repent! The Son of Man returns today at 6:00 PM Eastern time! Fall down to your knees and beg for the Lord's forgiveness!
BRING OUT YOUR DEAD, HE'S COMING! BRING OUT YOUR DEAD, HE'S COMING! BRING OUT YOUR DEAD, HE'S COMING! BRING OUT YOUR DEAD...
proudgeek159 |
You know, this whole May 21st thing sort of works for me. I have surgery scheduled for tomorrow to have my traitorous spleen removed tomorrow, plus my taxes aren't done yet. The end of the world would actually solve a couple of problems for me. Besides, living in a world with out Macho Man Randy Savage is just too sad to contemplate...
yellowdingo |
You know, this whole May 21st thing sort of works for me. I have surgery scheduled for tomorrow to have my traitorous spleen removed tomorrow, plus my taxes aren't done yet. The end of the world would actually solve a couple of problems for me. Besides, living in a world with out Macho Man Randy Savage is just too sad to contemplate...
You tax dodging bastard!