How many Ioun stones can a character wear?


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Maybe i just overread it, but i couldn´t find a hint about it so far, only that it seems it can be more than one.
The question is how many exactly?


Hayato Ken wrote:

Maybe i just overread it, but i couldn´t find a hint about it so far, only that it seems it can be more than one.

The question is how many exactly?

As many as you want and can afford. They are slotless items.


Grandfather is right, but make sure you keep in mind the like-bonuses-usually-don't-stack rules.

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You can have as many as you want as they are slotless but have fun describing your character with 5+ stones orbiting your face. Of course you can have them implanted and even one in a wayfinder that you carry.

Silly though it is, it's legal.


Hayato Ken wrote:

Maybe i just overread it, but i couldn´t find a hint about it so far, only that it seems it can be more than one.

The question is how many exactly?

As many as your referee thinks is reasonable. There is no hard and fast limitation to slotless items other than common sense and reasonable expectation (which of course varies anywhere you go).

Of course while you can wear as many Ioun stones as you want/the gm will let you, their effects are still subject to stacking rules as normal.

It is intersting to note that Ioun himself (the Netherese wizard who invented them) was said to have over 64 stones orbiting his head at any time (that from the Netheril campaign published WAY long ago by TSR) and HIS stones make the ones in the core rules look like garbage.


Yup. Several high-level NPCs have been described as having veritable clouds of Ioun stones circling them through various editions of the game.


Ambrus wrote:
Yup. Several high-level NPCs have been described as having veritable clouds of Ioun stones circling them through various editions of the game.

And the best way to deal with them is a whirlwind attack.

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Or just let them 'find' that ioun stone which bores its way into your brain... ;)


HaraldKlak wrote:
Ambrus wrote:
Yup. Several high-level NPCs have been described as having veritable clouds of Ioun stones circling them through various editions of the game.
And the best way to deal with them is a whirlwind attack.

I don't think each ioun stone would count as an "opponent."


For a long time, my group thought you were limited to three stones, based on the orbit distance. Then we realized that there wasn't a rule against two stones sharing an orbit.

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All of them.
-Kle.


Ah this is madness!
There is was thinking about magic items to create, when it just could be iounstones suiting my needs, even being very versatile by putting them into wayfinders and granting something else!


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Bobson wrote:
For a long time, my group thought you were limited to three stones, based on the orbit distance. Then we realized that there wasn't a rule against two stones sharing an orbit.

So we are now dealing with Ioun shells? 2 orbit close, then 8, then... Hold on a minute. ~pulls out the Ioun Stone Physics book~ What page did I see that on?

~grins~


I wonder if it would be under the GUIT chapter. Grand Unified Ioun Theory.


Rules wise there is no limit, and if you look at the source, in the dying earth series there was at least one character who literally had clouds of the things floating around him. Enough so when he was 'defeated' his opponents basically caught netfulls of the things pulling them out of the air around him.


Klebert L. Hall wrote:

All of them.

-Kle.

Just for funzies I want to get metric load of the burnt out ioun stones and let them float around my head.

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A dull grey ioun stone costs 25gp... so at level 20, using standard WBL, you could have... 35,200 of the things... 70,400 if you made 'em yourself... :)


ProfPotts wrote:
A dull grey ioun stone costs 25gp... so at level 20, using standard WBL, you could have... 35,200 of the things... 70,400 if you made 'em yourself... :)

If you colored them like easter eggs and maybe had some sort of minor magical effect on some of them (such as various colored lights) that could look really intimidating.


70,400 iounstones....would that grant total concealment?^^
or maybe AC bonus in some way hehe.
But how do you get through a door?
I think interaction with others would be restrained then too, some mysterious voice talking to you out of a cloud of floating dull grey stones....

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Maybe some sort of bonus to disguise yourself as an earth elemental?


ProfPotts wrote:
Maybe some sort of bonus to disguise yourself as an earth elemental?

~laughter~ Probably closer to a smog elemental. After all, there is a lot of particulate matter around the character.


Interesting. So how about a Wizard or Heavens Oracle who is trying to collect a set of Ioun stones to represent the celestial bodies, a stone of the appropriate color for each of the planets.

When he's got them orbiting properly he gains some bonus to casting, and additional bonuses at certain times of the day, week, or month when his "planets" are in a specific alignment.


There are an indeterminable number of angels dancing on the head of a pin asking why you guys aren't paying them any attention.


Hayato Ken wrote:

70,400 iounstones....would that grant total concealment?^^

or maybe AC bonus in some way hehe.
But how do you get through a door?
I think interaction with others would be restrained then too, some mysterious voice talking to you out of a cloud of floating dull grey stones....

Ioun stones are mostly transparent and actively try to avoid being damaged, thus even 70,400 do not grant either cover or concealment :P

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ProfPotts wrote:
A dull grey ioun stone costs 25gp... so at level 20, using standard WBL, you could have... 35,200 of the things... 70,400 if you made 'em yourself... :)

And with enough castings of light, darkness, or continual flame.....

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Kolokotroni wrote:
Rules wise there is no limit, and if you look at the source, in the dying earth series there was at least one character who literally had clouds of the things floating around him. Enough so when he was 'defeated' his opponents basically caught netfulls of the things pulling them out of the air around him.

In that book the stones were orbiting behind him and they had some "slight" drawback.

The stone were absorbing his memory.


Diego Rossi wrote:
Kolokotroni wrote:
Rules wise there is no limit, and if you look at the source, in the dying earth series there was at least one character who literally had clouds of the things floating around him. Enough so when he was 'defeated' his opponents basically caught netfulls of the things pulling them out of the air around him.

In that book the stones were orbiting behind him and they had some "slight" drawback.

The stone were absorbing his memory.

*Pssshhhhtt* Details.

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