
Mark Hoover 330 |
NH, how do you PARENT that, other than trust? I'm not being snarky or anything; I'm an honest parent looking for tips and tricks.
My 19 year old lives at home w/me still but has her own car, her own garage door opener and I give her a lot of independence. Over the past few months though, since right before the holidays, she's been going out more and more, sometimes bringing her little sister with her. I don't always know where they go, who they're hanging out with, etc.
I'm TOLD that masks are worn and such, but these are two teenage kids who've been cooped up for months. Now that businesses and malls and some friends' houses are opening back up I spot pictures on their social media of my girls, just around each other, but in public spaces with masks off and such.
How do we parent kids outside our house, with their own independence, money and transportation, who are 17 and 19 respectively? Meanwhile, when THEY get home from gatherings I freak out, ask a million questions and generally have panic attacks but so far, thankfully (knock on wood) we haven't had the virus in our household.
If anyone has any good ideas besides open, honest dialogue with the kids and occasionally snooping their social media, I'm here for it.
Edit: but apparently I'm not properly dressed for this topic

lisamarlene |
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Don't ask me about parenting right now.
Teensy Valeros was in his Grandmother's front yard yesterday, started throwing rocks at passing cars, and broke the window of a neighbor's truck.
Thank goodness for the stimulus, I have enough in my savings account to buy a new window. But, holy f***ing hell.
Eve reminded me, "Be grateful it was just a window; didn't WW blow a hole in the neighbor's garage when he was a kid?"
To which I replied, "Yeah, but he didn't get caught."

NobodysHome |
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NH, how do you PARENT that, other than trust? I'm not being snarky or anything; I'm an honest parent looking for tips and tricks.
My 19 year old lives at home w/me still but has her own car, her own garage door opener and I give her a lot of independence. Over the past few months though, since right before the holidays, she's been going out more and more, sometimes bringing her little sister with her. I don't always know where they go, who they're hanging out with, etc.
I'm TOLD that masks are worn and such, but these are two teenage kids who've been cooped up for months. Now that businesses and malls and some friends' houses are opening back up I spot pictures on their social media of my girls, just around each other, but in public spaces with masks off and such.
How do we parent kids outside our house, with their own independence, money and transportation, who are 17 and 19 respectively? Meanwhile, when THEY get home from gatherings I freak out, ask a million questions and generally have panic attacks but so far, thankfully (knock on wood) we haven't had the virus in our household.
If anyone has any good ideas besides open, honest dialogue with the kids and occasionally snooping their social media, I'm here for it.
Edit: but apparently I'm not properly dressed for this topic
So,
#1: I do NOT buy my 17-year-old a plane ticket to visit a bunch of friends across the frigging country. I am utterly livid at his parents for their lack of judgement. Because THAT is the parenting fail in this equation.#2: For my kids, I've had honest dialogs with them, and I have absolute faith that Impus Major has been being extremely careful; he's terrified of accidentally infecting and killing us. Impus Minor follows the protocols, but it's unconscious. He's more likely to slip up. And so he was the one who arranged going out with a friend from out of town. Once they heard my reaction to the visitor being from out-of-state, I have faith that they were careful. The fact that Impus Major was with them, and when I asked, "Was there any time that you or Impus Minor put yourselves at risk?" and he honestly thought about it for 10-15 seconds before answering, "No, I don't think we did," makes me feel worlds better about the whole thing.
The problem is, it was an unnecessary trip that needlessly raised the risk of everyone involved.
If we want the pandemic to end, we have to stop doing that s***.
I honestly don't believe I'm at any risk from the event. But it was a stupid, stupid thing to do by all involved.

Freehold DM |
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Don't ask me about parenting right now.
Teensy Valeros was in his Grandmother's front yard yesterday, started throwing rocks at passing cars, and broke the window of a neighbor's truck.Thank goodness for the stimulus, I have enough in my savings account to buy a new window. But, holy f***ing hell.
Eve reminded me, "Be grateful it was just a window; didn't WW blow a hole in the neighbor's garage when he was a kid?"
To which I replied, "Yeah, but he didn't get caught."
Please inform him that words cannot encapsulate my level of disappointment in him. When I was his age that could have easily gotten me killed.

Freehold DM |
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(It was a small hole. He and his buddies had some black powder they'd bought in Mexico and made a shrapnel cannon with a steel clothesline support.)
Again. They could have easily gotten themselves killed(maimed more likely).
And people yell at me for enjoying my adult material as a kid. I wasn't blowing holes in anything!

Tacticslion |
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(*clarification: I would absolutely not use the following language in a serious situation*)
They shot me! I was shot! I got shot today!
(Starts at 1:30, as on a phone I’m no good with time stamps!)
They’re making me wait four weeks for part 1:40, though! XD

Vanykrye |
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lisamarlene wrote:(It was a small hole. He and his buddies had some black powder they'd bought in Mexico and made a shrapnel cannon with a steel clothesline support.)Again. They could have easily gotten themselves killed(maimed more likely).
And people yell at me for enjoying my adult material as a kid. I wasn't blowing holes in anything!
Then you weren't doing it right?
That's the appropriate response to that one, right?

Freehold DM |
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Freehold DM wrote:lisamarlene wrote:(It was a small hole. He and his buddies had some black powder they'd bought in Mexico and made a shrapnel cannon with a steel clothesline support.)Again. They could have easily gotten themselves killed(maimed more likely).
And people yell at me for enjoying my adult material as a kid. I wasn't blowing holes in anything!
Then you weren't doing it right?
That's the appropriate response to that one, right?
pauses
rereads what he wrote
sighs heavily

Vanykrye |

Ohh, Freehold.
My last day of the current run of leave today, so I did some work (despite being on leave, because I'm an idiot), went to the shops, moved some scrap wood from one place to another, burned some of it, started making a club, did some exercise, and played the bass guitar.
I've got a loose connection somewhere in my bass/cords/amp. Need to take it over to my former co-worker's place and plug into his rig to comparison test.

Vanykrye |

Hello there, John! How do you do?
Vany, what bass do you have? I just have a s!@+ty P-bass copy, but that does me OK; while I should probably like an EB-3 or a Rickenbacker, I cannot possibly justify (or afford) buying one.
Nothing special. An old Peavey T40. Bought it around '95 for a couple hundred dollars.
It's enough for me to plunk around on. If I had enough reason and skill I'd get a Chapman NS Stick or a Music Man.

gran rey de los mono |
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Kingmaker was good tonight. We killed the Stag Lord without having to fight him. We gave him poisoned bottles of liquor that caused him to pass out and be unwakeable, killed his buddies (well, one joined us and one got away, but we killed the rest), and then cut his head off. Next week we get to try and deal with his Dad.

Ambrosia Slaad |
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lisamarlene wrote:(It was a small hole. He and his buddies had some black powder they'd bought in Mexico and made a shrapnel cannon with a steel clothesline support.)Again. They could have easily gotten themselves killed(maimed more likely).
And people yell at me for enjoying my adult material as a kid. I wasn't blowing holes in anything!
Both adult me and kid me know this was wrong, but both of us also agree we would have done it too. Because a'splode!
Heck, if I could build a black powder shrapnel cannon tomorrow, odds are at least 50/50 I'd do it. Because a'splode! And my self-preservation instincts are probably lower today then they were as a kid.

Freehold DM |
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Freehold DM wrote:lisamarlene wrote:(It was a small hole. He and his buddies had some black powder they'd bought in Mexico and made a shrapnel cannon with a steel clothesline support.)Again. They could have easily gotten themselves killed(maimed more likely).
And people yell at me for enjoying my adult material as a kid. I wasn't blowing holes in anything!
Both adult me and kid me know this was wrong, but both of us also agree we would have done it too. Because a'splode!
Heck, if I could build a black powder shrapnel cannon tomorrow, odds are at least 50/50 I'd do it. Because a'splode! And my self-preservation instincts are probably lower today then they were as a kid.
leaves adult material, peppermint at Amby's house in the name of public safety

Vanykrye |
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Freehold DM wrote:lisamarlene wrote:(It was a small hole. He and his buddies had some black powder they'd bought in Mexico and made a shrapnel cannon with a steel clothesline support.)Again. They could have easily gotten themselves killed(maimed more likely).
And people yell at me for enjoying my adult material as a kid. I wasn't blowing holes in anything!
Both adult me and kid me know this was wrong, but both of us also agree we would have done it too. Because a'splode!
Heck, if I could build a black powder shrapnel cannon tomorrow, odds are at least 50/50 I'd do it. Because a'splode! And my self-preservation instincts are probably lower today then they were as a kid.
We need to hang out.

gran rey de los mono |
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I attacked my party with an astral kraken. It didn't go like I planned mostly because of my 5 initiative and them having so many ways to avoid grapples. I need to stop using grappling opponents they are too used to them.
Combine grapplers with antimagic fields. See how they cope then.

Limeylongears |
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Freehold DM wrote:lisamarlene wrote:(It was a small hole. He and his buddies had some black powder they'd bought in Mexico and made a shrapnel cannon with a steel clothesline support.)Again. They could have easily gotten themselves killed(maimed more likely).
And people yell at me for enjoying my adult material as a kid. I wasn't blowing holes in anything!
Both adult me and kid me know this was wrong, but both of us also agree we would have done it too. Because a'splode!
Heck, if I could build a black powder shrapnel cannon tomorrow, odds are at least 50/50 I'd do it. Because a'splode! And my self-preservation instincts are probably lower today then they were as a kid.
Can you not buy light artillery (at least) at your local 'mall', and get fresh shells (HE or armour piercing) delivered to you each morning with the bread and milk?
Is everything I have been told about Florida a LIE?

captain yesterday |
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Ambrosia Slaad wrote:Freehold DM wrote:lisamarlene wrote:(It was a small hole. He and his buddies had some black powder they'd bought in Mexico and made a shrapnel cannon with a steel clothesline support.)Again. They could have easily gotten themselves killed(maimed more likely).
And people yell at me for enjoying my adult material as a kid. I wasn't blowing holes in anything!
Both adult me and kid me know this was wrong, but both of us also agree we would have done it too. Because a'splode!
Heck, if I could build a black powder shrapnel cannon tomorrow, odds are at least 50/50 I'd do it. Because a'splode! And my self-preservation instincts are probably lower today then they were as a kid.
Can you not buy light artillery (at least) at your local 'mall', and get fresh shells (HE or armour piercing) delivered to you each morning with the bread and milk?
Is everything I have been told about Florida a LIE?
You're thinking of Texas.
In Florida they can't sell artillery at the mall because that would inhibit the natural destructive creativity of Florida Man.
However, you do get a free alligator with every bath salts or meth delivery.

Ambrosia Slaad |
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leaves adult material, peppermint at Amby's house in the name of public safety
The adult material is wasted, that drive has been Rip van Winkle-ing for years now. And I don't think I've needed any peppermint for a couple months.
The best thing to do for public safety is to change things in my brain so the common sense/self-preservation section has 7-10 seconds of lead time over the highly-impulsive reptile section. Right now, they're reversed. And no, no Elon Mush brain chips either. Probably something built by Fuchi or Shiawase.

Freehold DM |

Freehold DM wrote:leaves adult material, peppermint at Amby's house in the name of public safetyThe adult material is wasted, that drive has been Rip van Winkle-ing for years now. And I don't think I've needed any peppermint for a couple months.
The best thing to do for public safety is to change things in my brain so the common sense/self-preservation section has 7-10 seconds of lead time over the highly-impulsive reptile section. Right now, they're reversed. And no, no Elon Mush brain chips either. Probably something built by Fuchi or Shiawase.
I cannot hear those last two names without firing up the emulator and playing a bit.

Limeylongears |
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Limeylongears wrote:Ambrosia Slaad wrote:Freehold DM wrote:lisamarlene wrote:(It was a small hole. He and his buddies had some black powder they'd bought in Mexico and made a shrapnel cannon with a steel clothesline support.)Again. They could have easily gotten themselves killed(maimed more likely).
And people yell at me for enjoying my adult material as a kid. I wasn't blowing holes in anything!
Both adult me and kid me know this was wrong, but both of us also agree we would have done it too. Because a'splode!
Heck, if I could build a black powder shrapnel cannon tomorrow, odds are at least 50/50 I'd do it. Because a'splode! And my self-preservation instincts are probably lower today then they were as a kid.
Can you not buy light artillery (at least) at your local 'mall', and get fresh shells (HE or armour piercing) delivered to you each morning with the bread and milk?
Is everything I have been told about Florida a LIE?
You're thinking of Texas.
In Florida they can't sell artillery at the mall because that would inhibit the natural destructive creativity of Florida Man.
However, you do get a free alligator with every bath salts or meth delivery.
Can't I get an alligator with built-in artillery?

Vanykrye |
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captain yesterday wrote:Can't I get an alligator with built-in artillery?Limeylongears wrote:Ambrosia Slaad wrote:Freehold DM wrote:lisamarlene wrote:(It was a small hole. He and his buddies had some black powder they'd bought in Mexico and made a shrapnel cannon with a steel clothesline support.)Again. They could have easily gotten themselves killed(maimed more likely).
And people yell at me for enjoying my adult material as a kid. I wasn't blowing holes in anything!
Both adult me and kid me know this was wrong, but both of us also agree we would have done it too. Because a'splode!
Heck, if I could build a black powder shrapnel cannon tomorrow, odds are at least 50/50 I'd do it. Because a'splode! And my self-preservation instincts are probably lower today then they were as a kid.
Can you not buy light artillery (at least) at your local 'mall', and get fresh shells (HE or armour piercing) delivered to you each morning with the bread and milk?
Is everything I have been told about Florida a LIE?
You're thinking of Texas.
In Florida they can't sell artillery at the mall because that would inhibit the natural destructive creativity of Florida Man.
However, you do get a free alligator with every bath salts or meth delivery.
Florida has pretty easy-to-obtain concealed carry, so there may be a pretty open loophole to exploit here.

lisamarlene |

captain yesterday wrote:Can't I get an alligator with built-in artillery?Limeylongears wrote:Ambrosia Slaad wrote:Freehold DM wrote:lisamarlene wrote:(It was a small hole. He and his buddies had some black powder they'd bought in Mexico and made a shrapnel cannon with a steel clothesline support.)Again. They could have easily gotten themselves killed(maimed more likely).
And people yell at me for enjoying my adult material as a kid. I wasn't blowing holes in anything!
Both adult me and kid me know this was wrong, but both of us also agree we would have done it too. Because a'splode!
Heck, if I could build a black powder shrapnel cannon tomorrow, odds are at least 50/50 I'd do it. Because a'splode! And my self-preservation instincts are probably lower today then they were as a kid.
Can you not buy light artillery (at least) at your local 'mall', and get fresh shells (HE or armour piercing) delivered to you each morning with the bread and milk?
Is everything I have been told about Florida a LIE?
You're thinking of Texas.
In Florida they can't sell artillery at the mall because that would inhibit the natural destructive creativity of Florida Man.
However, you do get a free alligator with every bath salts or meth delivery.
If the built-in artillery involves frickin' lasers, I think that conclusively proves that Elon Musk is Dr. Evil.

captain yesterday |

captain yesterday wrote:Can't I get an alligator with built-in artillery?Limeylongears wrote:Ambrosia Slaad wrote:Freehold DM wrote:lisamarlene wrote:(It was a small hole. He and his buddies had some black powder they'd bought in Mexico and made a shrapnel cannon with a steel clothesline support.)Again. They could have easily gotten themselves killed(maimed more likely).
And people yell at me for enjoying my adult material as a kid. I wasn't blowing holes in anything!
Both adult me and kid me know this was wrong, but both of us also agree we would have done it too. Because a'splode!
Heck, if I could build a black powder shrapnel cannon tomorrow, odds are at least 50/50 I'd do it. Because a'splode! And my self-preservation instincts are probably lower today then they were as a kid.
Can you not buy light artillery (at least) at your local 'mall', and get fresh shells (HE or armour piercing) delivered to you each morning with the bread and milk?
Is everything I have been told about Florida a LIE?
You're thinking of Texas.
In Florida they can't sell artillery at the mall because that would inhibit the natural destructive creativity of Florida Man.
However, you do get a free alligator with every bath salts or meth delivery.
Of course, it's Florida!
Evolution mixed with toxic waste and body oil is a magical mixture.

Vidmaster7 |

Vidmaster7 wrote:I attacked my party with an astral kraken. It didn't go like I planned mostly because of my 5 initiative and them having so many ways to avoid grapples. I need to stop using grappling opponents they are too used to them.Combine grapplers with antimagic fields. See how they cope then.
That's brilliant I don't know why it didn't occur to me.

gran rey de los mono |
gran rey de los mono wrote:That's brilliant I don't know why it didn't occur to me.Vidmaster7 wrote:I attacked my party with an astral kraken. It didn't go like I planned mostly because of my 5 initiative and them having so many ways to avoid grapples. I need to stop using grappling opponents they are too used to them.Combine grapplers with antimagic fields. See how they cope then.
Because I'm more devious than you?
Also, in the Azlant campaign I saw the GM getting really upset with grappling us only to have 3 spellcasters be like "Liberating Command!" or "Litany of Escape!" or "Remember, I cast Freedom of Movement on you before we came in here", so I gave a little thought to the problem. If you don't want to use antimagic fields (they can be annoying because everyone has to recalculate all the ACs, Attacks, Saves, CMBs, CMDs, Skills, etc... due to magic items not functioning, which can really slow things down), then how about a couple of mid-level sorcerers with Dispel Magic and/or Improved Counterspell. Dispel active effects like Freedom of Movement and counter things like Liberating Command and Litany of Escape.

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It's super useful when the situation fits and terrible when it doesn't. Immediate action means you can't use it on yourself, while anyone untrained in Escape Artist really needs that bonus to have any chance of success, still failing most of the time against big grapplers. My favorite instance of using it was a reach metamagic Freedom of Movement followed up with a Liberating Command to allow the grappled ally to immediately succeed, since FoM doesn't automatically free you until you or the grappler take an action.