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GM Mort wrote:
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Just a Mort wrote:
Bah he has no taste if he claims to be Lucifer. I'd go there yelling C'thun. C'thun. C'thun!
Uulwi ifis halahs gag erh'ongg w'ssh!

That strangely did not translate from R'yleh.

I wanted to use R'yleh for Aklo but realized the vocabulary wasn't large enough. Stuck to using Welsh instead.

Nope, that's directly pulled from WoW - it's what Yogg-Saron says when he dies. According to their devs, it translates to "The shadow of my corpse will choke this land for all eternity".

...

Apparently Yogg-Saron has eaten my pants.


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Welsh isn't a terrible option though, it certainly looks eldritch at first glance. ;)

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Maybe I fought Yogg Sauron or not. Can't remember. There are drawbacks in being rushed to 110. Like all those holes in your memory.

Yogg Sauron eats anything. Om Nom Nom Nom Nom.

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You know you've spent too much time with Strange Aeons when you start viewing things from the Dark Tapestry like your old pals ;)


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Oh, Strange Aeons is "on my list" right now.

Start of Book 3: No "Adventure Summary", so you dive right in to Part I: A river journey. How fun! I love travelogue adventures! So I got a good chunk of it all set up. Then I start seeing references that make no sense. "If this has happened to the PCs..." "How could that have happened? They haven't DONE any of that yet?!?!?"

So finally I decided to look up WHEN all that stuff happens. On to Part II of the book: "Oh, by the way, while the PCs are in Part I, all this should be happening simultaneously. And oh, by the way, in the previous book they should have done THIS or they're REALLY hosed..."

You know, AP authors, a simple one-paragraph "Adventure Summary" at the beginning of the book does WONDERS to not hose the GM who doesn't have time to read all 6 books before running....

Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln...


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Impus Major is convinced that the Himalayan place has been Hallowed by Balthador, God of Food.

Though his twisted pronunciation of Palak Paneer into Palpatine and then yelling, "I AM the Senate!"
"No, you are spinach!"
was a bit much...


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NobodysHome wrote:

Oh, Strange Aeons is "on my list" right now.

Start of Book 3: No "Adventure Summary", so you dive right in to Part I: A river journey. How fun! I love travelogue adventures! So I got a good chunk of it all set up. Then I start seeing references that make no sense. "If this has happened to the PCs..." "How could that have happened? They haven't DONE any of that yet?!?!?"

So finally I decided to look up WHEN all that stuff happens. On to Part II of the book: "Oh, by the way, while the PCs are in Part I, all this should be happening simultaneously. And oh, by the way, in the previous book they should have done THIS or they're REALLY hosed..."

You know, AP authors, a simple one-paragraph "Adventure Summary" at the beginning of the book does WONDERS to not hose the GM who doesn't have time to read all 6 books before running....

Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln...

Oh! Oh! Pick me! Pick me!!!

They do!

They moved it to the left of the level advancement track.

I remember when James Jacobs had a poll about moving it back in the day. :-)


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captain yesterday wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

Oh, Strange Aeons is "on my list" right now.

Start of Book 3: No "Adventure Summary", so you dive right in to Part I: A river journey. How fun! I love travelogue adventures! So I got a good chunk of it all set up. Then I start seeing references that make no sense. "If this has happened to the PCs..." "How could that have happened? They haven't DONE any of that yet?!?!?"

So finally I decided to look up WHEN all that stuff happens. On to Part II of the book: "Oh, by the way, while the PCs are in Part I, all this should be happening simultaneously. And oh, by the way, in the previous book they should have done THIS or they're REALLY hosed..."

You know, AP authors, a simple one-paragraph "Adventure Summary" at the beginning of the book does WONDERS to not hose the GM who doesn't have time to read all 6 books before running....

Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln...

Oh! Oh! Pick me! Pick me!!!

They do!

They moved it to the left of the level advancement track.

I remember when James Jacobs had a poll about moving it back in the day. :-)

Not in this particular book. To the left is just the names of the chapter, and Part 2 says nothing about running concurrently with part 1.

Ah, well, the family rolled with it and we had a good session anyway, so it's all good.

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NobodysHome wrote:
Just a Mort wrote:
Heat + strain - yeah I'm not arranging any more nature rambles for any FAWTL tourists until you convince me you have the physical fitness for it.

LOLOL.

You realize, of course, that Hi is going to hear no end of this when he gets back! :-P

Of course, if I give him too much grief, he'll start showing up for my lunchtime walks. Which would be nice to see him getting the exercise, but (believe it or not) I do greatly like my "alone time" away from any stimuli or other people...

Oh yes please give him grief =) We had an old Mass Rapid Transit(train) advertisement that dinosaurs went extinct because they didn't get out enough.

Yeah I'm also happy being alone - I'm usually alone for lunch - Gym. Heh.

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strange aeons:

Ah I take it you're talking about Dreamlands and Ship journey taking place concurrently? I toned down the random encounters to once per week because it's freaking 90 days of rolling random encounters. Not to mention not much in the name of Condition removal so if anyone accidentally gets killed there's no way to raise ><

Strange Aeons does tie the books together.

Book 6 you get to go back in time to wake your past selves at the asylum. I wonder what happens if it's a completely new party doing strange aeons because the original members died off?

What I don't like is the adventure assumes that at least one member of the starting AP party will still be alive throughout the AP, which given the difficulty of the AP, may not be that feasible, depending on how cheesy and savvy your players are.

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I tried, TL.


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Oh hay anxiety chest compression!

*sigh*


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~sighs~ Good luck, Drejk. I do not envy you and your family issues. Hopefully things get better soon.


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Eh, every time I get annoyed with the layout of Paizo's adventures (shakes fist impotently at the layout for War For The Crown) I remember Expeditition To Undermountain and then I let it go in the knowledge that it could be worse.


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My older brother has epilepsy, which in the 80s meant jacking him up with 20-30 pills a day, which as you can imagine did wonders for his mental health and unfortunately,I bore the brunt of his abuse.

So I feel your pain Drejk, I don't really have advice besides reiterating what Amby said, but I feel your pain.


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Drejk, I will send you a PM when I can.


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Currently posting from PA. Is there anyone in PA?


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I want to figure out a way to write a script that, for every Google Classroom submission, auto-pops up a window to ask "Did you include a works cited page?"


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Yay! We got enough snow for me to pull Tiny T-Rex to school on the sled.

It is ridiculously beautiful out, like calendar beautiful.


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For a momentary pleasant change, I finished a phone call from a editor of the Military Magazine who praised translation I wrote for them last week and offered to send me a new text for reviewing if it is within my capabilities (yeah, yeah, I know, my English is quite good, but I might lack sufficient knowledge of military tech lingo - although we both laughed that we all learned our English and military knowledge from roleplaying games).


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Good luck, Drejk, and take care of yourself first!


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I was awakened at 6am this morning by a random call. From Montreal.

How unstereotypically rude!


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I am testing a Lemon balm syrup, which is supposed to have calming properties. Seems to be working. That, or the positive charge I got from the editor.


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I'm getting to the point where I'm developing a sense for these papers as art. Really weird abstract art that you need a beret and trendy latte to describe as a coherent work, but art.


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Freehold DM wrote:
Currently posting from PA. Is there anyone in PA?

Me, in Pittsburgh.


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Good lord, am I tired.


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*SIGH*. It's always fun to be reminded that while teenagers think they're adults, the whole, "Thinking through your actions and showing restraint," is still a bit beyond them.

NobodysHome, introducing himself to his chaperonees via group text: "OK, everyone remember we're going into bear territory, so no scented personal products, all food in proper containers, oh, wait a minute..."
Senior who Knows NobodysHome Well: "Yeah! Everyone come heavily-armed and with high-end stereo systems!"

NobodysHome sighs to himself as he privately texts student in question that jokes about heavily-armed high school students are Not OK at the moment...


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Scintillae wrote:
I want to figure out a way to write a script that, for every Google Classroom submission, auto-pops up a window to ask "Did you include a works cited page?"

Speaking from the other side of things, getting Impus Major to remember his citations is SUCH a nightmare! He can remember amazing detail from the books he reads. But once he's writing the paper he says, "Oh, yeah, there's a quote that goes like this..."

...then it's 20 minutes of scanning the entire book to find the quote because he doesn't remember where it was.

SUCH a nightmare!

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Random Musings: Just started Strange Aeons Book 5...again when doing solo play on a compatible timezone things can move REALLY quickly.

And I will clear my AP business before I spam this thread pretty much.


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NobodysHome wrote:
Scintillae wrote:
I want to figure out a way to write a script that, for every Google Classroom submission, auto-pops up a window to ask "Did you include a works cited page?"

Speaking from the other side of things, getting Impus Major to remember his citations is SUCH a nightmare! He can remember amazing detail from the books he reads. But once he's writing the paper he says, "Oh, yeah, there's a quote that goes like this..."

...then it's 20 minutes of scanning the entire book to find the quote because he doesn't remember where it was.

SUCH a nightmare!

When Whingey Wizzard was working on his dissertation, he had this amazing thing that was like a highlighter, but instead of turning a line of text neon orange, it scanned and copied it into a program that... did... something with citations... somehow. And I don't remember what it's called. But I bet it's still on Amazon.


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lisamarlene wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
Scintillae wrote:
I want to figure out a way to write a script that, for every Google Classroom submission, auto-pops up a window to ask "Did you include a works cited page?"

Speaking from the other side of things, getting Impus Major to remember his citations is SUCH a nightmare! He can remember amazing detail from the books he reads. But once he's writing the paper he says, "Oh, yeah, there's a quote that goes like this..."

...then it's 20 minutes of scanning the entire book to find the quote because he doesn't remember where it was.

SUCH a nightmare!

When Whingey Wizzard was working on his dissertation, he had this amazing thing that was like a highlighter, but instead of turning a line of text neon orange, it scanned and copied it into a program that... did... something with citations... somehow. And I don't remember what it's called. But I bet it's still on Amazon.

That would work... if he knew what he was going to quote.

The problem is, the process is:
(1) Teacher assigns book to read, and gives students an immense amount of time to read it. (2+ weeks)
(2) After they are supposed to have read the entire book, she gives them the list of topics for their essays.

So while they're reading they have no way of identifying what might be useful quotes. They can either highlight everything that might possibly be useful, or re-read the book post-assignment.


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NobodysHome wrote:
Scintillae wrote:
I want to figure out a way to write a script that, for every Google Classroom submission, auto-pops up a window to ask "Did you include a works cited page?"

Speaking from the other side of things, getting Impus Major to remember his citations is SUCH a nightmare! He can remember amazing detail from the books he reads. But once he's writing the paper he says, "Oh, yeah, there's a quote that goes like this..."

...then it's 20 minutes of scanning the entire book to find the quote because he doesn't remember where it was.

SUCH a nightmare!

Gonna offer a recommendation. I make my kids fill out five notecards per source they use - one direct quote (with citation!) per notecard. So, three sources means fifteen possible direct quotes to work into their paper, and they have to read fifteen notecards rather than three books or multi-page articles when it comes time to actually work them in. Long-term time saver. So, if he's reading and knows there's a paper, see if you can get him to write a notecard or at least sticky-flag a page if he sees a quote he likes.


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Drat, you ninja'd me. Yeah, the timing is definitely an issue.


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Scintillae wrote:
I want to figure out a way to write a script that, for every Google Classroom submission, auto-pops up a window to ask "Did you include a works cited page?"

Sounds like something that has to go on the student's pcs. I don't know much about Google classroom, but I can provide a pseudo-code plain text suggestion.

if button == SUBMIT
{
if ( Messagebox( "Did you include a works cited page", MB_YESNO ) ) == YES
continue
else go back
}

... Maybe. Pardon the Windows API call. I don't know the Google API.


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Scintillae wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
Scintillae wrote:
I want to figure out a way to write a script that, for every Google Classroom submission, auto-pops up a window to ask "Did you include a works cited page?"

Speaking from the other side of things, getting Impus Major to remember his citations is SUCH a nightmare! He can remember amazing detail from the books he reads. But once he's writing the paper he says, "Oh, yeah, there's a quote that goes like this..."

...then it's 20 minutes of scanning the entire book to find the quote because he doesn't remember where it was.

SUCH a nightmare!

Gonna offer a recommendation. I make my kids fill out five notecards per source they use - one direct quote (with citation!) per notecard. So, three sources means fifteen possible direct quotes to work into their paper, and they have to read fifteen notecards rather than three books or multi-page articles when it comes time to actually work them in. Long-term time saver. So, if he's reading and knows there's a paper, see if you can get him to write a notecard or at least sticky-flag a page if he sees a quote he likes.

Same as above -- how's he supposed to identify which quotes he "likes" when he doesn't know the topic of his essay?

And the topics are really out there: "How do the concepts of 'The American Dream' differ in The Great Gatsby, Raisin in the Sun, and <A Third Book I Forget>? Provide concrete quotes and examples of the American Dream as depicted in all three books."

I just can't imagine Impus Major reading the book and foreseeing, "Oh, the essay's going to be on the American Dream! I should look for stuff on that!"

It's just bizarre.


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Nobody, do the teachers assign guided reading questions for IM's reading? I've found they can be helpful for kids remembering what happened where in the book, and theoretically that should help narrow down the amount of book to skim.


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NobodysHome wrote:
Scintillae wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
Scintillae wrote:
I want to figure out a way to write a script that, for every Google Classroom submission, auto-pops up a window to ask "Did you include a works cited page?"

Speaking from the other side of things, getting Impus Major to remember his citations is SUCH a nightmare! He can remember amazing detail from the books he reads. But once he's writing the paper he says, "Oh, yeah, there's a quote that goes like this..."

...then it's 20 minutes of scanning the entire book to find the quote because he doesn't remember where it was.

SUCH a nightmare!

Gonna offer a recommendation. I make my kids fill out five notecards per source they use - one direct quote (with citation!) per notecard. So, three sources means fifteen possible direct quotes to work into their paper, and they have to read fifteen notecards rather than three books or multi-page articles when it comes time to actually work them in. Long-term time saver. So, if he's reading and knows there's a paper, see if you can get him to write a notecard or at least sticky-flag a page if he sees a quote he likes.

Same as above -- how's he supposed to identify which quotes he "likes" when he doesn't know the topic of his essay?

And the topics are really out there: "How do the concepts of 'The American Dream' differ in The Great Gatsby, Raisin in the Sun, and <A Third Book I Forget>? Provide concrete quotes and examples of the American Dream as depicted in all three books."

I just can't imagine Impus Major reading the book and foreseeing, "Oh, the essay's going to be on the American Dream! I should look for stuff on that!"

It's just bizarre.

I think it depends on how heavily the teacher focuses on it. I absolutely cannot fathom teaching Gatsby without discussing the American Dream. But yeah, expecting a kid to start off with that note-taking mindset is a stretch.


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Was the third book Mein Kampf? Because it should absolutely be Mein Kampf. Wait...no...I'm remembering something completely different.


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Going off my own curriculum, Huck Finn?


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Vanykrye wrote:
Was the third book Mein Kampf? Because it should absolutely be Mein Kampf. Wait...no...I'm remembering something completely different.

That's the Austrian Dream. :P


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And the presentations continue. I'm starting to think I should've assigned an order rather than allow sign-ups because so many of these topics are so depressing.


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On the other hand, deliberately assigning a cheery, upbeat presentation to go between two presentations about murders might cause some severe whiplash...


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This is what I get for assigning a history tie-in.


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No; the third book was a modern one, written by a reformed gang member. I'm sure that's enough for you to place it.

But yeah, that's my real issue: The teacher wants the kids to get thoroughly engrossed in the book, so she doesn't "distract" them with guided reading questions or things to focus on. So the kids get a nice deep experience reading the book.

The problem is, then they get questions that non-English-teachers never would have seen coming; you see the American Dream as an obvious theme; my reaction was, "WTH?"
And since Impus Major never anticipated the question, he now has to re-read all three books with the theme in mind, and instead of one book over two weeks it's three books over one week.

Let's just say that I feel that the system could be improved.


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History is filled with a$$!$$*s.


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Oh, I agree. And I think his teacher is rather naive. "A nice deep experience reading the book" to the teacher equals "hells to the yes, no homework, I'll just Sparknote it the night before the test!" to a lot of kids, at least in my experience. Guided reading packets had to happen to make sure they at least retained some of the plot...


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I can only hope his teacher at least talked about the American Dream in class for all those books, so it didn't come completely from nowhere...


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NobodysHome wrote:

No; the third book was a modern one, written by a reformed gang member. I'm sure that's enough for you to place it.

OH! That one! Art of the Deal, I think it was called? OH...no...you said reformed. My mistake.


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OK, all! Off to risk life and limb taking 130 high schoolers to L.A.!

What could possiblie go wrong!

See you all Monday!

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