
Drejk |

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Freehold DM wrote:What mod?Drejk wrote:Still waiting on my Ghosts of Tsushima mod.
My brain keepsthinkingbaselessly hoping if I keep those 50 dollars in my PayPal now, surely some even better game will be on sale soon (*cough* Elden Ring, Ghost of Tsushima or at least Sekiro *cough*)
A mod that translates the background conversations when playing in Japanese. Some of those conversations are incredibly important.

NobodysHome |

At this point, I don't know which is more frustrating: COVID's longevity, or the incredibly vague health guidance on when you're generally safe to be around.
From what I've been able to find, the WHO's guidance is 7 days from the first onset of symptoms, and at least 72 hours since having a "fever". The CDC, likely under immense pressure, shortened that to 5 days and 24 hours. But various Google searches with even slightly different terms provide a wide variance in those guidelines. Even worse... what the heck is a "fever"?
Most "normal" people consider a "fever" to be a temperature over 99°F. That's what my parents went with in keeping us home from school, and my mother's an M.D. Our school's take-home guidelines similarly used the 99°F test. But clinically, 99°F is an "elevated temperature", and it's not until you hit 100.4°F that you have a "fever". That's a BIG difference, and none of the COVID guidelines bother telling me whether I'm looking to be free of a "clinical" fever (which I haven't had at all with this particular illness) or an "elevated temperature" (which I had yesterday).
It's bothersome because GothBard is on Day 14 of having symptoms, and while she's feeling better, she's still not symptom-free and she breaks 99°F every day. So... is she still contagious?
According to all the medical web sites I can find, "Who knows?"
EDIT: For example, here's the March 2024 guidance from the CDC. If a fever is 99°F, then we're all still trapped. If a fever is 100.4°F, then we're in Example 3... eternally.

NobodysHome |

(Yes, I'm a homebody. But Impus Minor's last shopping run showed that if I'm going to get decent fruits and vegetables I need to go to the store myself, and both kids are starting to go stir-crazy from lack of being able to have anyone over. So I want to be a good pandemic citizen and avoid infecting others. But in return I'd like good concrete guidance on when Impus Major can go out again. All I know is that everyone says, "Waiting until he tests negative is too long." OK, so what's NOT too long?)

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I know you want to do the best for the most people, be altruistic and whatnot but... the thing is endemic at this point. It's already everywhere and the people who are most harmed by catching it are people who haven't already been through the wringer already which... if you're simply existing in any public space where errands and social events take place then there is almost sure-fire going to be someone else there who is walking around with a contagious case of it who doesn't even know they're shedding it...
It's already been shown to be contagious with zero symptoms, sure it's less contagious, but it's been everywhere and exists in a constant state of circulation and adaptation in every known pocket of civilization, even the scientific colonies of Antarctica.
If you or others are feeling like actual garbage you shouldn't go out for sure but I really don't think you should continue putting it on yourself as if you're saving anyone exposure by choosing to do so, they're getting exposed all the time, most of the time it doesn't stick but sometimes it does and here is the thing, most folks don't even realize they have it when they're active carriers anymore because most peoples immune system has adapted through a combination of previous infections and past vaccinations they've had.
All this to say, now that it's endemic no individual can really be considered personally responsible for spreading it any longer, it already exists in your community, and yeah, you can do your part to keep others from catching it in a direct sense but there is absolutely no behavior that individuals can adopt that can keep the "community" covid free anymore, it's going to exist with us until humanity either all dies off or we find some miraculous hyper-futuristic system of medical treatment where we can universally treat the entire planet to eradicate SPECIFIC viruses (not even all viruses since there ARE functionally beneficial/necessary viruses that certain people and forms of life depend on) with a 100% kill rate while not impacting any other biological organisms.
I'm no expert, obviously, but my advice is to stick it out until you don't FEEL sick anymore, wear a mask for a few days, and get back to life like the rest of humanity did. Long periods of isolation at this phase is akin to self-flagellation over basically existing as a person in society. We screwed up the initial response out of ignorance, vanity, selfishness, and stubbornness and there is no going back.

NobodysHome |

...I'm no expert, obviously, but my advice is to stick it out until you don't FEEL sick anymore, wear a mask for a few days, and get back to life like the rest of humanity did...
That's the issue in a nutshell: GothBard and I STILL feel sick, 14 days after initial symptoms. And it's likely we're going to feel sick for another week or two at least. So it's not, "I feel fine, when can I go out?", but rather, "I still feel like crap but I've heard that even so it's OK to go out after a certain period."
All other points you made are valid: We blew it, it's endemic, and I'm not changing the world. But I'd at least like to feel like a responsible human being, so I'm trying to get guidance on, "When is it OK to go out when you're still symptomatic?"
That's another kettle of fish.

Syrus Terrigan |

increased vegetable-sorting education protocols may help a bit, but as long as your nutritional plan isn't suffering, you may end up "riding it out".
you're notoriously conscientious, NH (an admirable quality!), but you're also well-informed. when the 'experts' can't agree, i would think that all you're left with is your own judgment.
the most cautious of approaches you would take in an absolute "life is on the line" scenario might inform your best path forward. if you had no choice but to bypass the most stringent securities in order to accomplish the necessary, how would you go about it, given the current conditions? you know your baseline, i'm sure -- work back from there.
i certainly won't advise throwing prudence to the four winds, but it sounds to me like "analysis paralysis" isn't an acceptable option for you right now, either.
or, you could just go full carnivore until it's over -- surely the Impii can choose ground beef properly, eh? :D

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I'm sorry, everyone. I reached out last week, then immediately got busy, and I just haven't had time to sit down and talk to everyone. I do plan to respond to people, but I have a work presentation in 6 minutes, then I have to rush home and crash so I can get up early for an important civil service exam in the morning. Hopefully I can chat with everyone tomorrow afternoon?

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Themetricsystem wrote:...I'm no expert, obviously, but my advice is to stick it out until you don't FEEL sick anymore, wear a mask for a few days, and get back to life like the rest of humanity did...That's the issue in a nutshell: GothBard and I STILL feel sick, 14 days after initial symptoms. And it's likely we're going to feel sick for another week or two at least. So it's not, "I feel fine, when can I go out?", but rather, "I still feel like crap but I've heard that even so it's OK to go out after a certain period."
All other points you made are valid: We blew it, it's endemic, and I'm not changing the world. But I'd at least like to feel like a responsible human being, so I'm trying to get guidance on, "When is it OK to go out when you're still symptomatic?"
That's another kettle of fish.
We didn't blow anything, it was always going to end up endemic, it's how these things work. The same thing happened with the flu and the cold, no need to worry about it or beat anyone up over it.

Rosita the Riveter |

Sure enough, Chase maintains a list of "current subscribers" that get forwarded to the new card. Even the rep had to laugh at the stupidity of that.
So all subscribers are removed and I'm getting another new card.
Let's see whether that fixes the issue, or whether I'm doing this again next month.
Honestly, she was pretty awesome. "Can I list the subscribers you currently have so you can choose which ones to keep?"
"Nope. Cancel ALL of them and let me deal with it."
"OK. I've canceled all of them, even Chase. You'll have to fix that when the card comes up for renewal, but at least now we both know your account is clean."
I want to do this on my Chase credit card.

Rosita the Riveter |
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we had Warpriest's funeral/wake this evening. and it still hasn't hit yet. maybe i'm just still watching for everyone or anyone around me to break, so that i can be solid when the rest of the world isn't. or maybe i'm just a cold-hearted, monstrous sumb##&* that can't be vulnerable about it. idunno.
but Magus? that kid is all heart, and in the best way. if Warpriest is out there in whatever beyond there is, and can see what Magus is doing, he's laughing his ass off in pure joy at just how strong a son he's raised.
eighteen years old, and he's herding his family -- siblings, aunt, parent, all of 'em. eighteen years old, and he held it together long enough to speak clearly to a gathered crowd about his father (i know i couldn't for my own Dad). eighteen years old, and he would have toted his father's ashes to the graveside and then buried him all by himself, but he didn't -- he brought in everyone he could as part of that rite, but then finished the job alone.
ah.
there it is. *now* it's hitting.
rest easy, Warpriest. you did a good job.
18? I lost my father at 28, and that was far too young. I couldn't imagine it at 18.

Rosita the Riveter |
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howdy, Rosita!
been a long while! how ya been?
Busy. I'm a boss, now. I have employees, I even hired them. I finished graduate school in December and then somehow got yeeted up to manager of the university department I'd been a student assistant in, hired a new batch of student assistants, and now have to pretend to be a functional adult who knows how to give people orders. It's the start of the new semester, so I'm providing services to an influx of new students and doing orientations and talking constantly.

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Speaking of complete and utter academic/bureaucratic incompetence...
...Impus Major started school yesterday and he's taking three classes: Biology with a lab, Chemistry with a lab, and choir.
In a reasonable world, his school web page would have three tiles: One for each class.
If his professors were obsessive-compulsive, it might be five tiles: One for each lecture and one for each lab.
He signed in this morning and there are nine tiles, including five for chemistry, three for biology, and one for choir. As he puts it, "How the heck am I supposed to know what to check if you're separating your class into five different tiles?"

NobodysHome |

Sometimes I really do wonder about the kids' generation's complete lack of self-advocacy (or self-reliance, or whatever you want to call it).
(This morning)
NobodysHome: Impus Major, your ONE JOB in class is to find out whether or not you have a lab this afternoon. If you do nothing else in class, make sure you find that out.
Impus Major: OK.
(After class)
NobodysHome: So, do you have lab this afternoon?
Impus Major: I don't know. I guess so?
NobodysHome: You should really find that out before driving all the way down there. (His new commute is 45 minutes.)
Impus Major: OK.
(Over lunch)
NobodysHome: So, are you going to lab?
Impus Major: I guess so.
And yep. Sure enough, he and around 10 other students showed up at the lab this afternoon only to find that there wasn't one.
My *hope* is that this will teach him to ask questions and self-advocate, but we'll see whether losing 2.5 hours of his afternoon actually makes him change anything about his behavior.

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Of course, it might be my Gen X talking. "OK, you're 7. We're both going to be at work all day so you need to get yourself up, feed yourself breakfast, make yourself lunch ('cause we won't pay for lunch for you), walk to and from school on your own, get home, do your homework, and once we get home around 5:30 pm we'll feed you dinner. At which point you should go to your room and not bother us again."

Limeylongears |
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Speaking of complete and utter academic/bureaucratic incompetence...
...Impus Major started school yesterday and he's taking three classes: Biology with a lab, Chemistry with a lab, and choir.In a reasonable world, his school web page would have three tiles: One for each class.
If his professors were obsessive-compulsive, it might be five tiles: One for each lecture and one for each lab.
He signed in this morning and there are nine tiles, including five for chemistry, three for biology, and one for choir. As he puts it, "How the heck am I supposed to know what to check if you're separating your class into five different tiles?"
If both chemistry and biology are being taught by a Labrador, that may be part of the problem. Choir is presumably headed up by a Husky.

Dancing Wind |
losing 2.5 hours of his afternoon actually makes him change anything about his behavior.
You sound like you think that was punishment.
Turn the question around:
"What is it about driving for 45 minutes, hanging out on campus, and driving home, that is more interesting/attractive or otherwise rewarding than NOT doing that?
Why is such a low threshold task (finding out if he has a lab or not) less rewarding than doing all that driving?
People usualy don't do things they don't want to do if they can avoid it. It sounds to me as if there's something fun about driving to/being on campus that is attractive to him.

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Sometimes I really do wonder about the kids' generation's complete lack of self-advocacy (or self-reliance, or whatever you want to call it).
I usually go with "learned helplessness."
I have lost track of the number of times I have been asked about things where the answer is literally written in front of them because they want me to tell them rather than having to be organized enough to find it.
And I don't mean "it's buried in fine print." I mean "it's in the introductory paragraph" or "it's written on the board three inches from my head with which they are making eye contact."

NobodysHome |

NobodysHome wrote:losing 2.5 hours of his afternoon actually makes him change anything about his behavior.You sound like you think that was punishment.
Turn the question around:
"What is it about driving for 45 minutes, hanging out on campus, and driving home, that is more interesting/attractive or otherwise rewarding than NOT doing that?
Why is such a low threshold task (finding out if he has a lab or not) less rewarding than doing all that driving?People usualy don't do things they don't want to do if they can avoid it. It sounds to me as if there's something fun about driving to/being on campus that is attractive to him.
I'm afraid you're reading far too much into his thought process. He, like most of his friends, grew up being told by adults where to be and when to be there, and expecting very clear communication. So when instructors don't go out of their way to explicitly state, "You do not need to come to class tomorrow," he goes to class anyway. You'd be amazed/depressed at the number of teens who end up at school on holidays because nobody explicitly told them not to show up. "Just because it's a school holiday doesn't mean there's no lecture unless the teacher explicitly says there's no lecture." (And the constant "tests and homework during holidays" professors embraced during COVID didn't help at all.) He was frustrated about the trip and would have rather stayed home, but he didn't understand how to do the legwork to find out about the class beforehand.
This morning is test #2: He has an 8:15 lab, meaning he needs to leave the house by 7:15 if the lab is happening. He's actually getting up early and checking all the various tiles on the school web site to try to find out whether the lab is happening.

Dancing Wind |
I'm afraid you're reading far too much into his thought process.
I was actually assuming that he wasn't thinking at all, but simply going by pleasure seeking/pain avoidance instincts.
He was frustrated about the trip and would have rather stayed home, but he didn't understand how to do the legwork to find out about the class beforehand.
But that refutes that assumption.
I'll agree with Scint and you: learned helplessness
The people who structured his life so totally have left him unable to think for himself. Instead of developing intrinsict motivation, he's left with nothing but extrinsic motivation.
It's tough to be learning these lessons later in life when the cost of errors is much more painful. (although, thinking about it, 5 year olds can make it sound like natural consequences are the end of the world).

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NobodysHome wrote:Sometimes I really do wonder about the kids' generation's complete lack of self-advocacy (or self-reliance, or whatever you want to call it).I usually go with "learned helplessness."
I have lost track of the number of times I have been asked about things where the answer is literally written in front of them because they want me to tell them rather than having to be organized enough to find it.
And I don't mean "it's buried in fine print." I mean "it's in the introductory paragraph" or "it's written on the board three inches from my head with which they are making eye contact."
It's not generational, people haven't been paying attention to stuff since people first started cave painting.

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Tomorrow I have tons of errands to run, so this morning I tested myself, and it's finally down to a "barely visible, you wouldn't know it was there unless you knew you were recovering from COVID so you were checking extra-hard" trace.
So I'm giving myself a pass and I'll be running the errands. But since we still have boxes of KN95 masks, I'll be wearing one throughout.

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As a mathematician, watching the nonsense that passes for significant figures in modern Chemistry depresses me.
At DVC, Impus Major's professor (a full Ph.D.) said that if you subtract two numbers, you can lose all of their significant figures.
Impus Major called this nonsense and provided a concrete example:
2.1235 - 1.1234 = 1.0001 has five significant figures.
2.1234 - 1.1234 = 1 has one significant figure.
I called B.S. and told Impus Major his professor was just out-and-out wrong.
But on Wednesday at Cal State East Bay he was listening to the lecture from the Dean of the Chemistry department, and he said exactly the same thing.
Somehow if you vary your measurement by the tiniest bit you can lose all of your significant figures.
I call nonsense.

Limeylongears |
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*PHEW*. Sanity prevails.
Impus Major took my exact problem to the professor, and his immediate response was, "Oh, of course not! That would have five significant figures and be 1.0000."
So at least this professor knows how they work.
But can he solve Freehold's Blunderbuss Theorum?

Syrus Terrigan |

NobodysHome wrote:But can he solve Freehold's Blunderbuss Theorum?*PHEW*. Sanity prevails.
Impus Major took my exact problem to the professor, and his immediate response was, "Oh, of course not! That would have five significant figures and be 1.0000."
So at least this professor knows how they work.
i dunno if he can do it, but i know i have a solution:
higher caliber, more powder, more rounds -- and don't quit till the math is dead.

Freehold DM |
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Limeylongears wrote:NobodysHome wrote:But can he solve Freehold's Blunderbuss Theorum?*PHEW*. Sanity prevails.
Impus Major took my exact problem to the professor, and his immediate response was, "Oh, of course not! That would have five significant figures and be 1.0000."
So at least this professor knows how they work.
i dunno if he can do it, but i know i have a solution:
higher caliber, more powder, more rounds -- and don't quit till the math is dead.
now this I can get behind.

Drejk |
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Syrus Terrigan wrote:now this I can get behind.Limeylongears wrote:NobodysHome wrote:But can he solve Freehold's Blunderbuss Theorum?*PHEW*. Sanity prevails.
Impus Major took my exact problem to the professor, and his immediate response was, "Oh, of course not! That would have five significant figures and be 1.0000."
So at least this professor knows how they work.
i dunno if he can do it, but i know i have a solution:
higher caliber, more powder, more rounds -- and don't quit till the math is dead.
Duh. Standing in front of blunderbuss would be a very bad idea.

Limeylongears |
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First fencing competition for a long time, and I did not do very well at all. It was nice that there was a line dancing class next door, though, so we got to hear 'That don't impress me much', '9 to 5' and ' Footloose' on a loop while we were having at it. The ladies in pink Stetsons and (relatively modest) cut off jeans seemed rather surprised at what was going on, too.