
CrystalSeas |
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I get so exhausted with teachers who assume that spiritualism, symbolism, or tradition are so essential to everyone.
Impus Minor's English assignment today? "Choose an object that is deeply meaningful to you. Answer these questions. Why is it important to you? What would you do if you lost it? Etc., etc."
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Not every family has deep emotional connections to objects, nor generations-old traditions that must be passed down. Heck, we didn't even do Halloween this year and it was no big deal.
Impus Minor may not be old enough to know how to do this yet, but there's a real skill in learning how to answer the question someone thought they asked rather than answering the literal question they did ask.
Like Woran's sarcastic answer, being able to take "an object that is meaningful to you" and turn it into an essay on the meaningfulness of transient objects both answers the asked question and also deals with the short-sightedness of the specific question.
If you're asked about generations-old traditions, answer why those are meaningless in your world-view.
The teacher did provide a topic for the essay. Learning to write a meaningful answer that is still authentic to his own experience might be a bit beyond him now, but it's certainly a skill he'll need to cultivate.

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I get so exhausted with teachers who assume that spiritualism, symbolism, or tradition are so essential to everyone.
Impus Minor's English assignment today? "Choose an object that is deeply meaningful to you. Answer these questions. Why is it important to you? What would you do if you lost it? Etc., etc."
And this is for the son of Mr. "What else can I throw out today?"
I could literally go into Impus Minor's room, tell him I was going to replace everything in his room with new stuff so he should grab anything that had special meaning to him, and watch him walk out of the room empty-handed.
What makes it even worse is that last year he nearly failed a similar assignment because he had to come up with a "family tradition" that had been in the family for generations and we pretty much didn't have any. His choices were, "We do a Christmas tree every year because everybody does it," or, "We do Thanksgiving every year because everybody does it."Not every family has deep emotional connections to objects, nor generations-old traditions that must be passed down. Heck, we didn't even do Halloween this year and it was no big deal.
You're Impus Minor's English teacher. Can you just have him write an essay about a book he read or a topic sentence YOU provide?
When given a topic like that, I would usually just make something up. Even if I did have an item of special import, or if we had a family tradition, I'd still lie about it. Mainly because a) I didn't have these things, and b) it's none of the teacher's business if I did.

NobodysHome |

Everyone's points are well-taken. If *I* were doing it, I'd write something snarky.
Impus Minor's attitude is that he'd rather take the 0. At one assignment per semester, it's not significantly affecting his grade, so it falls into, "Pick your battles and win them all," category.
I'm not going to the mat over one stupid weekly English assignment.

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When given a topic like that, I would usually just make something up. Even if I did have an item of special import, or if we had a family tradition, I'd still lie about it. Mainly because a) I didn't have these things, and b) it's none of the teacher's business if I did.
I was at a workshop once where part of the 'get-to-know-you' session was to answer the prompt "Tell us something that no one here knows about you."
Obviously (to most of us) that was not meant as a therapeutic-level revelation of personal secrets.
There were two women in the group who were sisters. One of them didn't have the skill of being able to see what the purpose of the question was. She could only see the literal question.
She hesitated a really long time. So long that people around the table were making suggestions about things her sister might not know. "A new color of nail polish." "A new paperback." "A new snack you bought the last time you went shopping."
She was almost in tears trying to think of something that her sister didn't know about her that was also emotionally safe enough to announce to a group of strangers.
Not being able to recognize the purpose of the question, and to respond to that either by telling herself "none of their business, I'll make something up" or by thinking of something too trivial to matter, she was made very uncomfortable by an ice-breaker that was meant to make her *more* comfortable.

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Last night I fell asleep after taking my shower after work, but apparently I was troubleshooting my job in my sleep, because I woke up at about 10 PM convinced I'd just be able to walk over to the patio and look at the area to see if I could do it differently, only to realize I was in the living room.
The General noticed I was confused (and had just woken up) says "Is everything alright?" To which I replied, sleepily, "I thought there would be a patio there" she gently grabbed my hand and said "Why don't you go back to bed, I'm sure there'll be one there in the morning".

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Mark Hoover 330 wrote:One of these days I'm going to get Mrs Sunrise in an apron and nothing but...captain yesterday wrote:True story: I had a friend who's girlfriend would clean his apartment when she got really drunk, but this would get her hot, so she'd strip naked while she cleaned.In college one day, me and a bunch of hetero guy friends are sitting at lunch discussing what gets us going that our ladies do. One buddy is staring off into space so we prompt for his answer. "Baking... cookies..." was his reply in a dreamlike trance.
Naked Apron is a known fetish, appreciated by many.

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S@~*. The GM remembered it had Spell Turning up, so I didn't stone it. But, I didn't stone myself either. But I can try again next turn...
I want it to be next turn now. NOW. I WANT THE BBEG TURNED TO STONE TOO!
Don't make me drive over there. (Seriously, don't. Long story and I'm still in an unhappy place about it all.)

gran rey de los mono |
gran rey de los mono wrote:S@~*. The GM remembered it had Spell Turning up, so I didn't stone it. But, I didn't stone myself either. But I can try again next turn...I want it to be next turn now. NOW. I WANT THE BBEG TURNED TO STONE TOO!
Don't make me drive over there. (Seriously, don't. Long story and I'm still in an unhappy place about it all.)
It hasn't happened. I got Feebleminded, so couldn't cast again. Then I got fixed, but he cast Moment of Prescience on himself, so I don't want to waste the spell on it. Now we have to wait until next week.

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gran rey de los mono wrote:When given a topic like that, I would usually just make something up. Even if I did have an item of special import, or if we had a family tradition, I'd still lie about it. Mainly because a) I didn't have these things, and b) it's none of the teacher's business if I did.I was at a workshop once where part of the 'get-to-know-you' session was to answer the prompt "Tell us something that no one here knows about you."
Obviously (to most of us) that was not meant as a therapeutic-level revelation of personal secrets.
There were two women in the group who were sisters. One of them didn't have the skill of being able to see what the purpose of the question was. She could only see the literal question.
She hesitated a really long time. So long that people around the table were making suggestions about things her sister might not know. "A new color of nail polish." "A new paperback." "A new snack you bought the last time you went shopping."
She was almost in tears trying to think of something that her sister didn't know about her that was also emotionally safe enough to announce to a group of strangers.
Not being able to recognize the purpose of the question, and to respond to that either by telling herself "none of their business, I'll make something up" or by thinking of something too trivial to matter, she was made very uncomfortable by an ice-breaker that was meant to make her *more* comfortable.
My favorite response to tell us something unique about yourself is. I ain't seen the sunshine since I don't know when. Ah night shift life.

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Tequila Sunrise wrote:Naked Apron is a known fetish, appreciated by many.Mark Hoover 330 wrote:One of these days I'm going to get Mrs Sunrise in an apron and nothing but...captain yesterday wrote:True story: I had a friend who's girlfriend would clean his apartment when she got really drunk, but this would get her hot, so she'd strip naked while she cleaned.In college one day, me and a bunch of hetero guy friends are sitting at lunch discussing what gets us going that our ladies do. One buddy is staring off into space so we prompt for his answer. "Baking... cookies..." was his reply in a dreamlike trance.
If you get technical enough it's amazing what things count as fetishes.

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Freehold DM wrote:If you get technical enough it's amazing what things count as fetishes.Tequila Sunrise wrote:Naked Apron is a known fetish, appreciated by many.Mark Hoover 330 wrote:One of these days I'm going to get Mrs Sunrise in an apron and nothing but...captain yesterday wrote:True story: I had a friend who's girlfriend would clean his apartment when she got really drunk, but this would get her hot, so she'd strip naked while she cleaned.In college one day, me and a bunch of hetero guy friends are sitting at lunch discussing what gets us going that our ladies do. One buddy is staring off into space so we prompt for his answer. "Baking... cookies..." was his reply in a dreamlike trance.
When MrT and I do something weird, we often exclaim that we could probably monetize it on the internet. Because its going to be someones fetish.

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I'm madly doing laundry, cleaning house, and doing game prep, because we're waiting to find out if we need to vacate our house *today* for 2-3 days, or not until Monday. I'm hoping for today for obvious reasons.
We found out yesterday that the reason our water bill has been so ridiculously high is *not* that I do too much laundry, or that the kids like long showers, but that subsidence has caused pipes to leak under the slab foundation.
And the plumbers who checked it out found evidence that it had happened before, tried to do a cheap fix, and it had failed. So the hot water had been rerouted through the roof vents, but not the cold. So now the plumber wants to reroute *all* the water through the roof and "re-pipe the house", which they are estimating should take 48 hours and about six grand.
Can I say how happy I am that we only rent and don't own this place?
So it looks like a hotel for us for a few days, as soon as we get word from our landlord that the work is starting.

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Vidmaster7 wrote:When MrT and I do something weird, we often exclaim that we could probably monetize it on the internet. Because its going to be someones fetish.Freehold DM wrote:If you get technical enough it's amazing what things count as fetishes.Tequila Sunrise wrote:Naked Apron is a known fetish, appreciated by many.Mark Hoover 330 wrote:One of these days I'm going to get Mrs Sunrise in an apron and nothing but...captain yesterday wrote:True story: I had a friend who's girlfriend would clean his apartment when she got really drunk, but this would get her hot, so she'd strip naked while she cleaned.In college one day, me and a bunch of hetero guy friends are sitting at lunch discussing what gets us going that our ladies do. One buddy is staring off into space so we prompt for his answer. "Baking... cookies..." was his reply in a dreamlike trance.
Wait.
Wait.Wait.
...is Woran married to an 80s action star with a Mohawk and penchant for gold chains?

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Everyone's points are well-taken. If *I* were doing it, I'd write something snarky.
Impus Minor's attitude is that he'd rather take the 0. At one assignment per semester, it's not significantly affecting his grade, so it falls into, "Pick your battles and win them all," category.
I'm not going to the mat over one stupid weekly English assignment.
I used to have fun with these types of English assignments.
The culmination was the free composition section of my state English exam in high school. You had to choose from a selection of titles and write based on that. I chose "Keepsakes," and instead of a touching essay about some sentimental object, I wrote a short story about a female serial killer who seduces men and stores their severed heads in her freezer.
I got an A on the exam.
I told this story recently to my brother, and he recounted having done something similar on his state French exam. He had to write a passage (in French, obviously) based on a cartoon. The cartoon was a woman yelling at some kids who were trampling her flowers - only in his version she was worried that they would unearth the spot where she buried her husband after killing him some years before.
I guess it runs in the family.

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NobodysHome wrote:Everyone's points are well-taken. If *I* were doing it, I'd write something snarky.
Impus Minor's attitude is that he'd rather take the 0. At one assignment per semester, it's not significantly affecting his grade, so it falls into, "Pick your battles and win them all," category.
I'm not going to the mat over one stupid weekly English assignment.
I used to have fun with these types of English assignments.
The culmination was the free composition section of my state English exam in high school. You had to choose from a selection of titles and write based on that. I chose "Keepsakes," and instead of a touching essay about some sentimental object, I wrote a short story about a female serial killer who seduces men and stores their severed heads in her freezer.
I got an A on the exam.
I told this story recently to my brother, and he recounted having done something similar on his state French exam. He had to write a passage (in French, obviously) based on a cartoon. The cartoon was a woman yelling at some kids who were trampling her flowers - only in his version she was worried that they would unearth the spot where she buried her husband after killing him some years before.
I guess it runs in the family.
CH gets cookies.

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Something for NobodysHome
I never really got in to Ultraman. I had a grade school friend who was obsessed with him, so I saw a LOT of Ultraman when I was a kid. And even then understanding that every episode would be, "The two Japanese guys in rubber suits fight until 5 minutes before the end of the episode, then the one guy turns on the flashing light on his chest and invokes some power that obliterates the other guy before his time runs out," made it all quite anticlimactic.
Even at 7 years old I was asking, "If he's had that power all along, why did he wait until the end of the episode to use it?"

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Freehold DM wrote:Something for NobodysHomeI never really got in to Ultraman. I had a grade school friend who was obsessed with him, so I saw a LOT of Ultraman when I was a kid. And even then understanding that every episode would be, "The two Japanese guys in rubber suits fight until 5 minutes before the end of the episode, then the one guy turns on the flashing light on his chest and invokes some power that obliterates the other guy before his time runs out," made it all quite anticlimactic.
Even at 7 years old I was asking, "If he's had that power all along, why did he wait until the end of the episode to use it?"
I thought you said you loved ultraman? Ah well.

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Looks like the work is not happening today, which means it very likely won't happen tomorrow either, which means Monday morning (hopefully) so they get it done by mid-day Wednesday, otherwise Thanksgiving will be... interesting.
If that can't happen, I'd almost rather wait until Friday.
I mean, this is stupid... Saturday is usually my grocery store day, because it's the only day I drive half an hour (each way) to that side of town. And I'm wondering, do I buy groceries while I'm out that way, or do I not?
And I've got three quarts of homemade turkey stock in the freezer left over from making last year's turkey to make this year's gravy, and pint after pint of roasted pumpkin puree that I'd cooked down and then froze from the pumpkins the kids got given, and do I start thawing all that, or not?
I feel like an idiot. But when you're prone to anxiety attacks that affect your breathing, stuff like this is a big deal.

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NobodysHome wrote:I thought you said you loved ultraman? Ah well.Freehold DM wrote:Something for NobodysHomeI never really got in to Ultraman. I had a grade school friend who was obsessed with him, so I saw a LOT of Ultraman when I was a kid. And even then understanding that every episode would be, "The two Japanese guys in rubber suits fight until 5 minutes before the end of the episode, then the one guy turns on the flashing light on his chest and invokes some power that obliterates the other guy before his time runs out," made it all quite anticlimactic.
Even at 7 years old I was asking, "If he's had that power all along, why did he wait until the end of the episode to use it?"
Hi loves Ultraman, and has everything Ultraman-related for the last 40+ years.

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Freehold DM wrote:Hi loves Ultraman, and has everything Ultraman-related for the last 40+ years.NobodysHome wrote:I thought you said you loved ultraman? Ah well.Freehold DM wrote:Something for NobodysHomeI never really got in to Ultraman. I had a grade school friend who was obsessed with him, so I saw a LOT of Ultraman when I was a kid. And even then understanding that every episode would be, "The two Japanese guys in rubber suits fight until 5 minutes before the end of the episode, then the one guy turns on the flashing light on his chest and invokes some power that obliterates the other guy before his time runs out," made it all quite anticlimactic.
Even at 7 years old I was asking, "If he's had that power all along, why did he wait until the end of the episode to use it?"
Tell him I said TOKUSATSU FOREVER

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Freehold DM wrote:Something for NobodysHomeI never really got in to Ultraman. I had a grade school friend who was obsessed with him, so I saw a LOT of Ultraman when I was a kid. And even then understanding that every episode would be, "The two Japanese guys in rubber suits fight until 5 minutes before the end of the episode, then the one guy turns on the flashing light on his chest and invokes some power that obliterates the other guy before his time runs out," made it all quite anticlimactic.
Even at 7 years old I was asking, "If he's had that power all along, why did he wait until the end of the episode to use it?"
Capacitor was still charging...

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Ways to Show you (Don't) Care:
TryCaviar was never a good delivery service, but they at least tried:
"Hey, my order is wrong again! That's 3 wrong orders out of 5 tries. What's wrong with you people?"
"We're so sorry! Here's a refund and another $10 gift certificate!"
We got so many gift certificates from them that I felt bad, like I was making a profit from their incompetence.
Then, they got acquired by Door Dash, infamous among our households for the "our uninsured driver hit your brand new Alfa Romeo for $40,000 in damage, but we don't have to pay for it because he's an independent contractor" incident.
Up until last night, they still seemed like a smaller company that got swallowed by a larger company but that was still trying to do right by its customers.
All that evaporated last night.
We ordered delivery from Barney's. According to the app, the food was ready at 5:55 pm, but didn't get picked up by the driver until 6:35 pm. When it arrived, Impus Major's dinner was entirely missing, in spite of being on the receipt. (A common issue with Barney's orders, so I'm not sure whether drivers like to eat Barney's because Barney's doesn't seal its bags, or whether Barney's is just terrible at packing orders.) My dinner was as cold as if had been in the fridge for 45 minutes, making it pretty clear that Barney's has the standard COVID, "Your dinner gets put outside on a table until you pick it up," situation, and the driver didn't show up so our food sat outside for half an hour. (So maybe a passerby got Impus Major's burger.)
Yeah, they gave me an instant refund for the burger, but I was fed up. I went to the site to cancel my account. No dice. Why? Because without notifying me they implemented two-factor authentication using my home phone number, which is a land line and doesn't get text messages.
I contacted support.
NobodysHome: You turned on two-factor authentication on my account using my land line. I need you to change it to email.
Support: If you want to change your account information, sign in, complete the two-factor authentication, and then change your information.
NH: I can't change my information because you turned on two-factor authentication for a land line.
S: If this doesn't work, create a new account with the correct information.
NH: Fine. Just delete my account.
S: OK. Done.
It just killed me that the person/bot not only didn't understand the problem, but was more than happy to delete my account rather than trying to deal with it. Apparently, Door Dash has customers to spare. So I'm just as happy to be done with them.

Drejk |

I contacted support.
NobodysHome: You turned on two-factor authentication on my account using my land line. I need you to change it to email.
Support: If you want to change your account information, sign in, complete the two-factor authentication, and then change your information.
NH: I can't change my information because you turned on two-factor authentication for a land line.
S: If this doesn't work, create a new account with the correct information.
NH: Fine. Just delete my account.
S: OK. Done.It just killed me that the person/bot not only didn't understand the problem, but was more than happy to delete my account rather than trying to deal with it. Apparently, Door Dash has customers to spare. So I'm just as happy to be done with them.
If that was a person, they probably failed to process the "landline" part. Let's face it, who still uses landline anyway and knows it doesn't processes messages?
If it was a bot, then it surely failed to process "landline" part.
I haven't had a landline in almost 20 years... Though it took a few years before I got a cell phone from my grandfather.

NobodysHome |

Restaurants that have their own delivery people are okay in my book. Delivery services? No thank you. I have never had a good experience with one. I will go pick up my food myself rather than use them.
I was talking to GothBard about the same thing this morning. Both Impus Minor's favorite pizza place and Impus Major's favorite Indian place use their own drivers. They're awesome. Every delivery service? A huge added expense for crap service.
The driver didn't detach the Barney's receipt so we got to find out that we were paying a 39.3% surcharge for the "convenience" of having food delivered to us. And post-COVID, everyone's charging over 30%. Even our "helpful shopper" Costco run only broke $1000 because of a 30% surcharge. I don't like going out during COVID, and I can afford a 30% surcharge, but considering that I consider a 25% tip to be "great" service, if you're charging me 30% I'd better be darned happy when that food shows up on my doorstep.

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NobodysHome wrote:
I contacted support.
NobodysHome: You turned on two-factor authentication on my account using my land line. I need you to change it to email.
Support: If you want to change your account information, sign in, complete the two-factor authentication, and then change your information.
NH: I can't change my information because you turned on two-factor authentication for a land line.
S: If this doesn't work, create a new account with the correct information.
NH: Fine. Just delete my account.
S: OK. Done.It just killed me that the person/bot not only didn't understand the problem, but was more than happy to delete my account rather than trying to deal with it. Apparently, Door Dash has customers to spare. So I'm just as happy to be done with them.
If that was a person, they probably failed to process the "landline" part. Let's face it, who still uses landline anyway and knows it doesn't processes messages?
If it was a bot, then it surely failed to process "landline" part.
I haven't had a landline in almost 20 years... Though it took a few years before I got a cell phone from my grandfather.
Well, I suspect that there are a HUGE number of Americans whose phones still can't receive text messages. My corporate phone can't. My home phone can't.
Any IT department that decides that 100% of the phone numbers in their system can receive text messages so turning on two-factor authentication for all those accounts without even a text confirmation to make sure the phones can receive texts deserves to be laid off en masse.
EDIT: I'm salty because I'm locked out of PayPal for the same reason. I joined PayPal back in the 1990s before text messaging was commonplace, yet BOOM! As soon as they could they turned on two-factor authentication and locked me out of my account. And I can't access it to fix things without... two-factor authentication. (There's no money in the account or I'd try harder, but you get the point...)

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I may have had thoughts about that. like the foot fetish people are pretty aggressive and will spend money like crazy. just need a razor and some nail polish....
This is honestly my back up plan. I've got incredibly straigh toes and I can pick things up with them so I'm pretty sure I've got some money makers at the bottom of my legs.

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Woran wrote:Vidmaster7 wrote:When MrT and I do something weird, we often exclaim that we could probably monetize it on the internet. Because its going to be someones fetish.Freehold DM wrote:If you get technical enough it's amazing what things count as fetishes.Tequila Sunrise wrote:Naked Apron is a known fetish, appreciated by many.Mark Hoover 330 wrote:One of these days I'm going to get Mrs Sunrise in an apron and nothing but...captain yesterday wrote:True story: I had a friend who's girlfriend would clean his apartment when she got really drunk, but this would get her hot, so she'd strip naked while she cleaned.In college one day, me and a bunch of hetero guy friends are sitting at lunch discussing what gets us going that our ladies do. One buddy is staring off into space so we prompt for his answer. "Baking... cookies..." was his reply in a dreamlike trance.Wait.
Wait.
Wait....is Woran married to an 80s action star with a Mohawk and penchant for gold chains?
No. But he also doesnt suffer fools.

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NobodysHome wrote:Tell him I said TOKUSATSU FOREVERFreehold DM wrote:Hi loves Ultraman, and has everything Ultraman-related for the last 40+ years.NobodysHome wrote:I thought you said you loved ultraman? Ah well.Freehold DM wrote:Something for NobodysHomeI never really got in to Ultraman. I had a grade school friend who was obsessed with him, so I saw a LOT of Ultraman when I was a kid. And even then understanding that every episode would be, "The two Japanese guys in rubber suits fight until 5 minutes before the end of the episode, then the one guy turns on the flashing light on his chest and invokes some power that obliterates the other guy before his time runs out," made it all quite anticlimactic.
Even at 7 years old I was asking, "If he's had that power all along, why did he wait until the end of the episode to use it?"
Got it. Got it. Tonkatsu forever.
Impus Minor loves him some tonkatsu. Though he favors chicken katsu when I make it.

Drejk |

Drejk wrote:NobodysHome wrote:
I contacted support.
NobodysHome: You turned on two-factor authentication on my account using my land line. I need you to change it to email.
Support: If you want to change your account information, sign in, complete the two-factor authentication, and then change your information.
NH: I can't change my information because you turned on two-factor authentication for a land line.
S: If this doesn't work, create a new account with the correct information.
NH: Fine. Just delete my account.
S: OK. Done.It just killed me that the person/bot not only didn't understand the problem, but was more than happy to delete my account rather than trying to deal with it. Apparently, Door Dash has customers to spare. So I'm just as happy to be done with them.
If that was a person, they probably failed to process the "landline" part. Let's face it, who still uses landline anyway and knows it doesn't processes messages?
If it was a bot, then it surely failed to process "landline" part.
I haven't had a landline in almost 20 years... Though it took a few years before I got a cell phone from my grandfather.
Well, I suspect that there are a HUGE number of Americans whose phones still can't receive text messages. My corporate phone can't. My home phone can't.
Any IT department that decides that 100% of the phone numbers in their system can receive text messages so turning on two-factor authentication for all those accounts without even a text confirmation to make sure the phones can receive texts deserves to be laid off en masse.
I have no idea how it does work in USA, but here, at least in the past, the cell phone number format was noticeably different from land line number format (different length - 7 for landline, though I remember when it was 6 digits in 80s, 9 for mobiles, different prexifes) so it was easy to notice/write program in the way that would not accept/confuse landline for a mobile phone. The landline number length might have been extended since that time, though, and the requirement for using full set of prefix numbers while calling had been removed so people no longer write them down when filling their number, making landline and mobile numbers harder to distinguish.
EDIT: I'm salty because I'm locked out of PayPal for the same reason. I joined PayPal back in the 1990s before text messaging was commonplace, yet BOOM! As soon as they could they turned on two-factor authentication and locked me out of my account. And I can't access it to fix things without... two-factor authentication. (There's no money in the account or I'd try harder, but you...
Yeah, I get that it's an idiocy to automatically use provided number for a text message authentication if it wasn't specifically eneterd into "mobile phone" entry—in the past I saw various forms that specifically discerned between landline and cell phone (and I had a sort of reverse issue with electronic forms that treated landline as necessary position that had to be filled to proceed).

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I have no idea how it does work in USA, but here, at least in the past, the cell phone number format was noticeably different from land line number format (different length - 7 for landline, though I remember when it was 6 digits in 80s, 9 for mobiles, different prexifes) so it was easy to notice/write programs...
In the U.S., mobile numbers are indistinguishable from land lines. Same number of digits. Same prefixes. Everything. You even have the option to migrate your land line number to your mobile number if you want to.

Drejk |

I checked out of curiosity and apparently the number length in Poland changed to match the length between landlines and mobiles in mean time (as I mentioned I had no landline for 20 years now, because of reasons unrelated to mobiles but highly related to high costs of using dial up modem in late 90s).
Two digits of regional prefix that were optional when calling within the region in the past are now always added to the old seven digit phone numbers, making them equal in length to mobile numbers. It's just that the the two digits that signify area code of a landline are equivalent to mobile operator code.
EDIT: The mobile operator codes are assigned to specific carriers, but by now they only signify what was the original carrier for the number - you can migrate number to other carriers (a hard won legal victory with the help of EU consumer protection regulations) and keep the whole number, thus effectively divorcing the operator code from the actual operator.

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US landlines have a geographical indicator/area code on, though; presumably US mobiles do not?
Area Codes apply to all phones in the US, land or cell.
Then there's the next 3 digits...the exchange...in the land line world, those are also geographically specific within each area code. Roberts, IL, for instance, is 217-395-xxxx. Buckley, 6 miles east, is 217-394-xxxx.
Cell phones, at first, had exchanges that were specific to the carriers. Back in/around the late 90's, if you saw xxx-287-xxxx that number was associated to Sprint.
However, since telephone number migration became a thing, now it doesn't mean anything.