Deep 6 FaWtL

[John Napier 698]

;_; So sorry to hear that, Woran.

[Drejk]

*hugs*

[captain yesterday]

I'm in a grumpy mood today.

[lisamarlene]

While I was making dinner tonight, there was an urgent pounding on my front door. It turned out to be my severely demented neighbor, Catherine, who had wandered away from home. She wanted to chat.
We talked for a while and I walked her back to her house. Her husband was sitting inside at the dining table with a newspaper and a cigarette. He never got up, spoke, or acknowledged what was going on. WW says the man must be exhausted, caring for her by himself, but in that moment, I was pretty disgusted by him.

[Sharoth]

I am sorry for your loss Woran.

[Tequila Sunrise]

So sorry for your loss, Woran. :(

[John Napier 698]

About to go home. Good night, everyone.

[Vidmaster7]

Woran wrote:

We took Billy to the vet today to have him put to sleep. Yesterday he was just 'done'. Lay in the middle of the cage, alive, but not moving. Didnt want his cooked rice in the evening. Clearly in pain.

He was very lethargic today and he went quietly at the vet.

Aww I'm sorry for your loss. :(

[gran rey de los mono]

Gotta admit, I'm a little disappointed the sandwich discussion didn't continue.

[gran rey de los mono]

A pirate walks into a bar with a paper towel for a hat. The barkeep asks "Hey, man, what's with the paper towel hat?" The pirate looks confused, reaches up, and grabs hold of the hat. He looks at it, and exclaims...

[YAAR! I BE A PIRATE!]

YAAR! Someone put a Bounty on me head!!

[Vidmaster7]

From what I read of the sandwich discussion you seem to be a sandwich expert gran.

[gran rey de los mono]

Vidmaster7 wrote:

From what I read of the sandwich discussion you seem to be a sandwich expert gran.

I wouldn't say that. But it turns out I'm strongly opinionated on what does and does not constitute a sandwich. Surprised myself, to be honest.

[gran rey de los mono]

I swallowed a dictionary today. Gave me thesaurus throat I've ever had.

[Pirate_master7]

YAAR! I BE A PIRATE! wrote:

YAAR! Someone put a Bounty on me head!!

AARRRGH that be Tear-able.

(I had to decide between him and the bear.)

[gran rey de los mono]

Political joke:

There's a term for people like Trump. But not two.

[Vidmaster7]

gran rey de los mono wrote:

I swallowed a dictionary today. Gave me thesaurus throat I've ever had.

Swallowing a whole thesaurus sounds like an appalling, awful, bad, beastly, detestable, disgusting, dreadful idea.

[Vidmaster7]

gran rey de los mono wrote:

** spoiler omitted **

XD I am going to use that one.

[gran rey de los mono]

I like this. The rest of video is pretty good too.

If you can't read it, the write-up from the mechanic says the following:

Kinda long:

Complaint: Steering is "herky-jerky"

Cause: Tested unit and confirmed herky-jerky status.
Determined herk setting to be incorrect at 18.5.
Jerk setting much lower than specification at 118.

Correction: Configured herk gain to proper setting of 5.23 based on machine configurations.
Performed jerk calibration and checked values.
Values are now within spec at 582. Spec is 400 - 600.
Unit no longer driving herky-jerky but is moving slightly honky-wonky.
Determined incorrect software loaded into ranky-tanky module.
Programmed software to correct version of 1.2.2.0.
Tested unit. Unit is now driving just nimbly-bimbly.

[Sharoth]

Vid and gran, I hope that you two are having a good night.

[Vidmaster7]

Thanks Sharoth you too! The little banter back and forth makes the night go by faster.

This may or may not be my last work day before the wedding. (The boss messed up the scheduled and forgot the 11th existed apparently.) The anticipation is starting to get to me.

[Woran]

Thank you everyone

[Sharoth]

Barter? What are we bart--- ~rereads~ OHHH!!! BANTER!!! My bad!

[Sharoth]

Good morning Woran.

[gran rey de los mono]

I think we're bartering jokes for sandwiches.

[A Gelatinous Cube]

Vidmaster7 wrote:

Thanks Sharoth you too! The little banter back and forth makes the night go by faster.

This may or may not be my last work day before the wedding. (The boss messed up the scheduled and forgot the 11th existed apparently.) The anticipation is starting to get to me.

*shklapunkadoodles in antici...*

[Sharoth]

Damn it! I knew that making charisma my dump stat would come back to haunt me. Low diplomacy and trade skills. Damn it!!!

[Sharoth]

~reads my stat sheet~ How in the Hell do you get a negative diplomacy? Damn it! Never make Charisma a dump stat!

[Contrivancecougar]

A Gelatinous Cube wrote:

Vidmaster7 wrote:

Thanks Sharoth you too! The little banter back and forth makes the night go by faster.

This may or may not be my last work day before the wedding. (The boss messed up the scheduled and forgot the 11th existed apparently.) The anticipation is starting to get to me.

*shklapunkadoodles in antici...*

ty? Anticity? which city?

[gran rey de los mono]

Contrivancecougar wrote:

A Gelatinous Cube wrote:

Vidmaster7 wrote:

Thanks Sharoth you too! The little banter back and forth makes the night go by faster.

This may or may not be my last work day before the wedding. (The boss messed up the scheduled and forgot the 11th existed apparently.) The anticipation is starting to get to me.

*shklapunkadoodles in antici...*

ty? Anticity? which city?

Kroy Wen. It's the opposite of the worst city in the world.

[Vidmaster7]

gran rey de los mono wrote:

Contrivancecougar wrote:

A Gelatinous Cube wrote:

Vidmaster7 wrote:

Thanks Sharoth you too! The little banter back and forth makes the night go by faster.

This may or may not be my last work day before the wedding. (The boss messed up the scheduled and forgot the 11th existed apparently.) The anticipation is starting to get to me.

*shklapunkadoodles in antici...*

ty? Anticity? which city?

Kroy Wen. It's the opposite of the worst city in the world.

Huh and I always thought it was Detroit.

[captain yesterday]

The worst city in the world is actually Butte, Montana.

Which is surprising given the name.

[Vidmaster7]

I feel like there's a story there.

[captain yesterday]

Nope, it's just a absolutely terrible place filled with terrible people.

Visit yourself if you think I'm exaggerating or you don't believe me.

I would also accept Cour D'alane Idaho.

[Vidmaster7]

I was actually gonna make it my business not to visit it if that is its rating. Montana is one of the few states I've never been to. My dad was a truck driver and I would ride with him all over. Never needed to go to Montana though. I have been through Idaho. I don't actually believe their is anything in Idaho. Its like purgatory I'm pretty sure.

[gran rey de los mono]

But, the nutburger is from Butte, Montana. How can you say that Butte, Montana is the worst city in the world when it gave us the nutburger?

[Nylarthotep]

Okay, there are leavened tortillas. Think like a chalupa. It is still U-shaped when deployed as a flavor conveyance mechanism. So only one "slice" if you will.

sandwich? Not sandwich?

[Nylarthotep]

Also - lance brand has what they call sandwich crackers - think about the ubiquitous cheese cracker or peanut butter on orange crackers you see at convenience stores.

Despite sandwich in the name - you put that as 'not a sandwich'?

https://www.samsclub.com/p/lance-variety-pack-40-ct/prod21000963?pid=ps_Goo gle_PLA_6451821818&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=378117729321&wl 4=aud-827499702426:pla-784313127302&wl5=9009739&wl6=&wl7=&w l9=pla&wl10=1247713&wl11=online&wl12=%7Bproductid%7D&wl13=& amp;wl15=82809157128&wl17=&veh=sem&kclid=531ec7c3-fbf4-4eda-9e2 d-b91634438df8&wl21=678395&wl22=&wl23=784313127302&gclid=Cj wKCAiAtK79BRAIEiwA4OskBjwEIqox4wHAvZasBqR3OwzucplIHIvNne8PClbTb05sjqVC33d9Y xoC6NgQAvD_BwE

[Freehold DM]

I'm so sorry for your loss Woran...

And I how you are feeling better captain yesterday.

[Nylarthotep]

NobodysHome wrote:

For sandwiches, I'd say the broad definition is, "A filling between two distinct pieces of leavened baked good."

So tacos, burritos, and gyros don't count because they don't satisfy the "two distinct pieces" part. A bit of nacho filling between two tortilla chips doesn't count because the "bread" isn't leavened.

So taco, gyro, pita, and lobster roll are out in my book. An open-face roast beef sandwich typically has the top either provided or implied, so I accept open-face sandwiches as a sandwich "variation".

"Muffin" vs. "Cupcake" is just sugar content. A cupcake is a muffin with a high enough sugar content. I'd guesstimate that number at around 15-20% by weight in the uncooked product, but I don't have a bunch of cupcake vs. muffin recipes next to me right now.

Interesting aside. Saltines and soda crackers are generally considered leavened. So a peanut butter cracker gooey mess might be a sandwich under this definition.

[gran rey de los mono]

Nylarthotep wrote:

Okay, there are leavened tortillas. Think like a chalupa. It is still U-shaped when deployed as a flavor conveyance mechanism. So only one "slice" if you will.

sandwich? Not sandwich?

If it's a tortilla, it is not bread, so not sandwich.

[gran rey de los mono]

Nylarthotep wrote:

Also - lance brand has what they call sandwich crackers - think about the ubiquitous cheese cracker or peanut butter on orange crackers you see at convenience stores.

Despite sandwich in the name - you put that as 'not a sandwich'?

https://www.samsclub.com/p/lance-variety-pack-40-ct/prod21000963?pid=ps_Goo gle_PLA_6451821818&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=378117729321&wl 4=aud-827499702426:pla-784313127302&wl5=9009739&wl6=&wl7=&w l9=pla&wl10=1247713&wl11=online&wl12=%7Bproductid%7D&wl13=& amp;wl15=82809157128&wl17=&veh=sem&kclid=531ec7c3-fbf4-4eda-9e2 d-b91634438df8&wl21=678395&wl22=&wl23=784313127302&gclid=Cj wKCAiAtK79BRAIEiwA4OskBjwEIqox4wHAvZasBqR3OwzucplIHIvNne8PClbTb05sjqVC33d9Y xoC6NgQAvD_BwE

Crackers are not bread, so not sandwich.

Also, cookies and cake are not bread, so ice cream sandwiches are not true sandwiches.

[Nylarthotep]

It seems like your definition of bread is somewhat like the supreme court's definition of pornography. You know it when you see it. Or do you have a more precise definition of bread?

Also, if calzone is filled bread/not sandwich, why is a pita not filled bread?

[gran rey de los mono]

Nylarthotep wrote:

It seems like your definition of bread is somewhat like the supreme court's definition of pornography. You know it when you see it. Or do you have a more precise definition of bread?

Also, if calzone is filled bread/not sandwich, why is a pita not filled bread?

Calzone is filled before baking, pita is filled after.

Definition of bread is a bit tricky. Must start as dough, not batter. Can be baked, griddled, grilled, or fried. Must have "bready" texture. This is why tortillas are not bread, they don't have the right texture.

[gran rey de los mono]

Also, pornography is not bread.

[Nylarthotep]

rule 34. Your bread is someone's porn.

[gran rey de los mono]

I think that's a different rule.

[Nylarthotep]

gran rey de los mono wrote:

Nylarthotep wrote:

It seems like your definition of bread is somewhat like the supreme court's definition of pornography. You know it when you see it. Or do you have a more precise definition of bread?

Also, if calzone is filled bread/not sandwich, why is a pita not filled bread?

Calzone is filled before baking, pita is filled after.

Definition of bread is a bit tricky. Must start as dough, not batter. Can be baked, griddled, grilled, or fried. Must have "bready" texture. This is why tortillas are not bread, they don't have the right texture.

So why does not muffin fall under bread for you?

IIRC you dinged muffins, corn bread, pancakes and a few other bready texture type items.

I am guessing Matza/Matzo/Matzah does not meet bready texture definition (and fails NH's leavened requirement), but is considered a bread by most of the people who eat it.

And again, I am purposefully pushing the corner cases, not to be difficult, but to see where things start to break for any given definition. Tell me to stop if/when you get tired of the issue. I don't really have a dog in the fight so to speak. It is just a nice diversion from other stuff.

Someone gave me the definition 'would you eat it without the "bread"?' (setting aside carb issues). That breaks at chicken salad/tuna salad/meatballs.

[gran rey de los mono]

Nylarthotep wrote:

gran rey de los mono wrote:

Nylarthotep wrote:

It seems like your definition of bread is somewhat like the supreme court's definition of pornography. You know it when you see it. Or do you have a more precise definition of bread?

Also, if calzone is filled bread/not sandwich, why is a pita not filled bread?

Calzone is filled before baking, pita is filled after.

Definition of bread is a bit tricky. Must start as dough, not batter. Can be baked, griddled, grilled, or fried. Must have "bready" texture. This is why tortillas are not bread, they don't have the right texture.

So why does not muffin fall under bread for you?

IIRC you dinged muffins, corn bread, pancakes and a few other bready texture type items.

I am guessing Matza/Matzo/Matzah does not meet bready texture definition (and fails NH's leavened requirement), but is considered a bread by most of the people who eat it.

And again, I am purposefully pushing the corner cases, not to be difficult, but to see where things start to break for any given definition. Tell me to stop if/when you get tired of the issue. I don't really have a dog in the fight so to speak. It is just a nice diversion from other stuff.

Someone gave me the definition 'would you eat it without the "bread"?' (setting aside carb issues). That breaks at chicken salad/tuna salad/meatballs.

Muffins start as batter. As I said, bread must start as dough. Corn bread and pancakes are made using the muffin method I described previously, so they are muffins, not bread. Also, I find there to be a difference in texture between muffins and bread. It is tough to describe, and is entirely subjective. I cannot recall having ever eaten matzo, so I cannot comment on its breadness.

[Mark Hoover 330]

"Submarine" or "Hoagie" sandwiches are considered sandwiches. They are made on a roll which is sometimes still sealed as a single unit rather than 2 separate slices. If THIS is an acceptable sandwich variant, meat and vegetables contained within a whole, unsplit roll, why then is a hot dog, which is meat, condiments and sometimes pickled vegetables, not considered a sandwich?

If the sub sandwich IS indeed a sandwich and the "bread" portion is a solid, single unit, why then would pita, leavened tortillas, or other forms of bread-like substance excluded from fulfilling the requirements for a sandwich?

And for that matter, who are any of you to tell me what a "sandwich" is? Gran, all due respect, your answers so far upthread have been definitive, stated as if fact, not opinion. The reality is, you have no more authority than I do or anyone does to define a food genre.

My sainted grandmother, god rest her, grew up on a farm in Indiana, then got married to a man and moved to where she spent the rest of her days, on the south side of Chicago. Most of her adult life was spent in the ethnic sectors of the city which, I'll have you know, is pretty well associated with hot dogs and sausage, thanks the Vienna Beef co.

She called a hot dog a sandwich. I'm personally offended that someone could be so prejudiced as to state, as if they're better than the rest of us, that taking a bun and slicing it full through while slapping some meat between the slices is a sandwich but putting nearly the same meat into a tube form, boiling it, and slapping THAT in a bun that HASN'T been fully sliced in two is some kind of blasphemy.

Where do YOU get off, telling me, my grandmother, and the rest of the people in this thread how to live? Who made you the god of sandwiches?

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The above is of course taken from my one-man show, "The Angriest Quarantine" which I'll be debuting next year throughout the Midwest US. It's a series of monologues where the most minor disagreements are turned into ridiculously intense screeds as a form of commentary on 2020.

Also, a hoagie is a sandwich so...