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speaking of dragon lance I once had a DM tell me that Krynn was on one of the planes of the abyss can anyone confirm or deny this?


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Part of it is. The cataclysm that caused the dragons to leave pushed the city (istar) of the high priest into the abyss. The gold box video games explored this a bit.

But i do not believe all of krynn is in the abyss. At least not during dl1-14

Edit: my quick google fu also does not mention krynn in general being part of the abyss. There is some confusion because krynn cosmology blends the hells and the abyss, but they remain a distinct place.


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Nope. It was not. Abyss was where Tahkisis supposedly dwelt. Also, the term was used in the Dragonlance in ways inconsistent with (later designed) Great Wheel cosmology. Basically that setting was written with its own version of D&D cosmology that was later somewhat ret-conned to match the cosmology proposed in Planescape.

EDIT: Though like Nylarthotep pointed, pieces of Krynn ended in Abyss during the Cataclysm.

Also, the term abyss seems to be used in the books to refer: (a) generic hell where evil gods dwell, (b) a specific plane where Takhisis dwelt, and (c) a sort of transitory plane between divine realms, somewhat or even substitute of Astral Plane. Which in Dragonlance cosmology might be more or less the same. Or not.


Huh. so he was sort of right and sort of not. excellent. I will use this information most un-responsibly.

Scarab Sages

Good luck Crookshanks!


*Contemplates creating and posting kender ancestry for PF2 just for S#!@$ & Giggles*


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Master Pugwampi wrote:
*Contemplates creating and posting kender ancestry for PF2 just for S#!@$ & Giggles*

Who let a pugwampi in here?


Definitely NOT a certain Kobold wrote:
Master Pugwampi wrote:
*Contemplates creating and posting kender ancestry for PF2 just for S#!@$ & Giggles*
Who let a pugwampi in here?

I think a certain kobold did.


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gran rey de los mono wrote:
Definitely NOT a certain Kobold wrote:
Master Pugwampi wrote:
*Contemplates creating and posting kender ancestry for PF2 just for S#!@$ & Giggles*
Who let a pugwampi in here?
I think a certain kobold did.

...

....
.....
So then we are agreed it's not me?......


Definitely NOT a certain Kobold wrote:
gran rey de los mono wrote:
Definitely NOT a certain Kobold wrote:
Master Pugwampi wrote:
*Contemplates creating and posting kender ancestry for PF2 just for S#!@$ & Giggles*
Who let a pugwampi in here?
I think a certain kobold did.

...

....
.....
So then we are agreed it's not me?......

Could be you.


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He's so easy to confuse gran he's going to be walking around in circles for days now...


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The week is done, I'm caught up with *almost* all my classroom crap (I still have to upload two weeks worth of photos to the classroom photo album on the school website for the parents, and update my online record-keeping before I have my monthly one-on-one with the director on Monday, but that's not bad), and I managed to get my grocery shopping done yesterday while the kids were in ballet, so all I have to do today is prep for tomorrow's PF session and make something for dinner.

And I blew off my run this morning because my arthritis was bad yesterday and SLEPT IN UNTIL 6:20, WHICH WAS FANTASTIC.


Tequila Sunrise wrote:
Tequila Sunrise wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
EDIT: It all starts with the photoelectric effect studied by Einstein that proved quantization of electrons (hence "quantum mechanics"). Once you show that there's a minimum allowable unit in the universe, everything else follows pretty quickly (and crazily). But every college kid repeats the experiment. I did it. Shiro's son is doing it now. One of those fundamental, "Change the universe" experiments that you can do in any college physics lab.
Interesting. I'll check it out.

So because I love visuals and I have nothing to do at work -- knock on wood -- I watched a vid of the Single-Slit Experiment, and then made google-drawings of it. Here and here.)

If I understand this right, many photons pass through a wide slit, in other words those photons' positional uncertainty is high. Which means their momentum (momental?) uncertainty is low. In other words, photons passing through a wide slit travel in more or less straight lines.

When the slit is narrowed, the photons' positional uncertainty shrinks way down, which forces their momental uncertainty way up. In other words, the few photons which make it through the slit scatter in a cone pattern. But because space itself is quantized, those few photons can't just blur into wider photons or split into more photons as they go, each photon has to probabilistically exist in more and more 'holes' as they go.

Do I have it right?

Unfortunately, while I like your thought processes, single-slit diffraction has to do with the incoming wavelength being roughly the same as the slit size. It works just fine in classical physics. Here's an MIT video of single-slit diffraction in water.

Single-slit diffraction isn't quantum physics, but it is neat.

The diffraction you're looking for (and I don't know what it's called) occurs when you fire photons at a couple of slits. If you don't place a photon counter in the experiment, you get a wave diffraction pattern. If you put in a photon counter, you get a particle pattern. The very act of counting photons changes them from waves into particles. Pretty mind-blowing.


Speaking of things getting worse with age...
...I remember pallets being a "goldmine o' fun" when we found them as kids. You could screw casters onto them to make makeshift skateboards, tie other kids' toys to them and send them plummeting down concrete slides... they were an indestructible, eternal source of scrap wood fun.

So...
...my temporary shower arrived on a standard-sized pallet. I tried to move it using a standard appliance dolly. The pallet disintegrated under the whopping 50-pound weight of the shower. I was pretty appalled. Then the bathtub arrived on a double-sized pallet. Not only was it disintegrating through normal use even though it was almost new (the wood on both was quite fresh), but it had nails sticking out from all sides like some kind of childhood booby trap. Serious "I'm going to drive a 2" nail 1/2" into the wood and leave the rest sticking out for people to catch stuff on" stuff.

It was so bad I went back and examined the bottom of the tub for damage.

When did even pallets get so poorly-made that they can't be trusted to do their normal job?


NobodysHome wrote:

When did even pallets get so poorly-made that they can't be trusted to do their normal job?

There is a world of difference between some crappy pallets and pallets standardized for international shipping. I learned that over the last few years handling them for kickstarter shipping. The standardized ones (e.g. Euro-pallet) can handle a lot more than crappy ones, but are quite heavy in comparison (maybe not for CY, but still heavy).

Scarab Sages

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F-YEAH EURO-PALLETS

SO MANY GOOD CHILDHOOD MEMORIES


Ugh. Who thought that limiting weapons in F3ar to TWO was a great idea?!

*sigh*

Also, I might be spoiled rotten by Far Cry and its system of tagging enemies and actually having a chance of sneaking on enemies to take them out with a backstab... (F3ar has backstab but there is no actual sneaking, getting a drop of enemy is extremely unlikely—I have yet to complete "get three backstab kills on enemies in a single level interval" challenge and I reached sixth interval).


Ghost of Tsushima is amazing so far.

I've learned a new stance, it's for something.

I also found a cool new sword set, the headband of peace, and murdered a whole bunch of mongol a!&~%@!s.

Also there is a gratuitous bare ass scene for when you take a dip in a hot spring.


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NobodysHome wrote:

Speaking of things getting worse with age...

...I remember pallets being a "goldmine o' fun" when we found them as kids. You could screw casters onto them to make makeshift skateboards, tie other kids' toys to them and send them plummeting down concrete slides... they were an indestructible, eternal source of scrap wood fun.

So...
...my temporary shower arrived on a standard-sized pallet. I tried to move it using a standard appliance dolly. The pallet disintegrated under the whopping 50-pound weight of the shower. I was pretty appalled. Then the bathtub arrived on a double-sized pallet. Not only was it disintegrating through normal use even though it was almost new (the wood on both was quite fresh), but it had nails sticking out from all sides like some kind of childhood booby trap. Serious "I'm going to drive a 2" nail 1/2" into the wood and leave the rest sticking out for people to catch stuff on" stuff.

It was so bad I went back and examined the bottom of the tub for damage.

When did even pallets get so poorly-made that they can't be trusted to do their normal job?

Wait, I missed something; you're FINALLY getting the bathroom done?!?


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Um... I'm posting this primarily for Nobody's Home, hoping that the shock doesn't give him a massive coronary, but any of you who followed his trials and tribulations GMing for Whingey Wizzard may find it amusing as well.

Tonight, as Val and Hermione were bickering over the distribution of loot, Val asked WW, "Wait, don't you want any of this, Papa?"

WW said, "I have a boatload of magic I cannot possibly use; I don't think I need any more stuff."


NH? NH, what's wrong? NH? NHHHHHHHHHHHHH!


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lisamarlene wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

Speaking of things getting worse with age...

...I remember pallets being a "goldmine o' fun" when we found them as kids. You could screw casters onto them to make makeshift skateboards, tie other kids' toys to them and send them plummeting down concrete slides... they were an indestructible, eternal source of scrap wood fun.

So...
...my temporary shower arrived on a standard-sized pallet. I tried to move it using a standard appliance dolly. The pallet disintegrated under the whopping 50-pound weight of the shower. I was pretty appalled. Then the bathtub arrived on a double-sized pallet. Not only was it disintegrating through normal use even though it was almost new (the wood on both was quite fresh), but it had nails sticking out from all sides like some kind of childhood booby trap. Serious "I'm going to drive a 2" nail 1/2" into the wood and leave the rest sticking out for people to catch stuff on" stuff.

It was so bad I went back and examined the bottom of the tub for damage.

When did even pallets get so poorly-made that they can't be trusted to do their normal job?

Wait, I missed something; you're FINALLY getting the bathroom done?!?

I've told you before our contractor is a horrific flake. So it was:

(1) Step 1: He didn't want to start until we'd obtained all the material, and COVID put the kibosh on GothBard actually trying tubs before buying them, and she's definitely a "soak in the tub for 2 hours with a good book" sort of girl, so we were primarily delayed by COVID.

(2) Step 2: He originally agreed to start August 24. He's normally flaky by a week or two, but the fires ran roughshod over their schedule so he's just finishing up the last fire-delayed job and then he should be able to get to us.

So pandemics and natural disasters, with only a skosh of flaky contractor.


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lisamarlene wrote:

Um... I'm posting this primarily for Nobody's Home, hoping that the shock doesn't give him a massive coronary, but any of you who followed his trials and tribulations GMing for Whingey Wizzard may find it amusing as well.

Tonight, as Val and Hermione were bickering over the distribution of loot, Val asked WW, "Wait, don't you want any of this, Papa?"

WW said, "I have a boatload of magic I cannot possibly use; I don't think I need any more stuff."

I am shocked speechless.

Dataphiles

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NobodysHome wrote:
lisamarlene wrote:

Um... I'm posting this primarily for Nobody's Home, hoping that the shock doesn't give him a massive coronary, but any of you who followed his trials and tribulations GMing for Whingey Wizzard may find it amusing as well.

Tonight, as Val and Hermione were bickering over the distribution of loot, Val asked WW, "Wait, don't you want any of this, Papa?"

WW said, "I have a boatload of magic I cannot possibly use; I don't think I need any more stuff."

I am shocked speechless.

He can be taught~!


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So yeah, there's such a thing as being, "Too into your game world design."

We're playing Secret World: Legends, which, as one of Shiro's friends put it, "Took an incredibly-cool game with a rich atmosphere and an intricate plot and turned it into a button masher."

But they still have that deep, rich lore. So we find "legends" all over the place, and, being in a multiplayer instance, we never get to read them.

So I thought I'd sign in a bit early this evening and catch up on my reading. The first legend was 1 1/2 pages of text. As was the second...
...and I started thinking, "Wait a minute! I've picked up dozens of these things!"

Yes. I have picked up 95 legends, to be precise, or just over 140 pages of "light" reading... while playing the game.

OK. I'll admit. I'm impressed. Someone went to a HUGE amount of work to write all that stuff...
...that I suspect less than 1% of players will ever read. I know both Lara Croft Guy and I gave up. It's a LOT of reading...


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And today marks a milestone for me: The last box I pulled out of the studio shed's been unpacked.

Yeah, there are months left to go, as there's still under the awning and inside the house.

But it's still a major achievement.


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I miss being a player in an L5R game. I have GM'd a couple years ago, but it's been...damn, almost a decade since I was a player in one.

Hell, it's been a while since I've been a player in anything that wasn't PF/D&D. Sometimes it seems like I'm the only person I know willing to think outside of the medieval European high fantasy box for more than two sessions.


NobodysHome wrote:

So yeah, there's such a thing as being, "Too into your game world design."

We're playing Secret World: Legends, which, as one of Shiro's friends put it, "Took an incredibly-cool game with a rich atmosphere and an intricate plot and turned it into a button masher."

But they still have that deep, rich lore. So we find "legends" all over the place, and, being in a multiplayer instance, we never get to read them.

So I thought I'd sign in a bit early this evening and catch up on my reading. The first legend was 1 1/2 pages of text. As was the second...
...and I started thinking, "Wait a minute! I've picked up dozens of these things!"

Yes. I have picked up 95 legends, to be precise, or just over 140 pages of "light" reading... while playing the game.

OK. I'll admit. I'm impressed. Someone went to a HUGE amount of work to write all that stuff...
...that I suspect less than 1% of players will ever read. I know both Lara Croft Guy and I gave up. It's a LOT of reading...

Sounds like all the books in Skyrim. Someone got paid to write all those things, and I bet most people don't even glance at them. I read some of them, but no way I would try to read them all.

The Lusty Argonian Maid ones are pretty funny, though.


I know I haven't actually read any of the books in Skyrim.


I may have read that one too.. >.>


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The Vagrant Erudite wrote:

I miss being a player in an L5R game. I have GM'd a couple years ago, but it's been...damn, almost a decade since I was a player in one.

Hell, it's been a while since I've been a player in anything that wasn't PF/D&D. Sometimes it seems like I'm the only person I know willing to think outside of the medieval European high fantasy box for more than two sessions.

FOR THE SPIDER


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I butchered another haiku to acquire the headband of refuge, or something like that.

I still suck at the anime style showdown, I might have to start over to watch the tutorial again because there's obviously a critical step I'm missing.


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Anime style showdown? are you yelling enough? have you talked about the power of friendship yet? did you do intense last minute training where you learn secret techniques?


No, you hold down triangle and the idea is you're supposed to draw your sword and slice someone in half in one motion but I'm slow on the slicing in half part so it's usually me getting sliced in half.

But just typing that out has given me an idea on what I'm doing wrong.


Glad to help.


It is an absolutely stunningly beautiful game.

And overall, the controls so far are pretty intuitive.

Except slashing bamboo stalks, which sucks.


found it!


captain yesterday wrote:
I know I haven't actually read any of the books in Skyrim.

Most of them, I don't bother with. Some of the journals and notes you find during quests can give a hint to what is up ahead, but most of them aren't that useful. A few of them are kind of funny, though. Like when you find a bandit's diary and read about how much they hate that other guy because he's always bragging about how deadly he is. And then you meet the guy and kill him in two seconds.


And some seemingly random books give you quests, like Red Eagle.


I should probably go back to doing the main quest line at some point. I'm not too far in, but have been distracted by other things. Like the whole island of Solsteim. And becoming head of the Thieves' Guild. And joining the Mage College. And joining the Dark Brotherhood. And just doing all sorts of random favors for people.


lisamarlene wrote:

Um... I'm posting this primarily for Nobody's Home, hoping that the shock doesn't give him a massive coronary, but any of you who followed his trials and tribulations GMing for Whingey Wizzard may find it amusing as well.

Tonight, as Val and Hermione were bickering over the distribution of loot, Val asked WW, "Wait, don't you want any of this, Papa?"

WW said, "I have a boatload of magic I cannot possibly use; I don't think I need any more stuff."

Awwww...


NobodysHome wrote:

So yeah, there's such a thing as being, "Too into your game world design."

We're playing Secret World: Legends, which, as one of Shiro's friends put it, "Took an incredibly-cool game with a rich atmosphere and an intricate plot and turned it into a button masher."

But they still have that deep, rich lore. So we find "legends" all over the place, and, being in a multiplayer instance, we never get to read them.

So I thought I'd sign in a bit early this evening and catch up on my reading. The first legend was 1 1/2 pages of text. As was the second...
...and I started thinking, "Wait a minute! I've picked up dozens of these things!"

Yes. I have picked up 95 legends, to be precise, or just over 140 pages of "light" reading... while playing the game.

OK. I'll admit. I'm impressed. Someone went to a HUGE amount of work to write all that stuff...
...that I suspect less than 1% of players will ever read. I know both Lara Croft Guy and I gave up. It's a LOT of reading...

I love world building and learning world-lore (which is what keeps me returning to LotRO), and yet, a lot of times I don't have time or energy to do that within game. In fact I often end reading recaps and distillations (hello TVTropes) instead.

Though I do try to give, well, a try to in-game lore, though it's not always easy avoiding clicking <ok> or <continue> just out of the inertia. Not to mention that focusing on reading the lore often disrupts the flow of the game.


gran rey de los mono wrote:
I should probably go back to doing the main quest line at some point. I'm not too far in, but have been distracted by other things. Like the whole island of Solsteim. And becoming head of the Thieves' Guild. And joining the Mage College. And joining the Dark Brotherhood. And just doing all sorts of random favors for people.

Theirs a main quest?


Vidmaster7 wrote:
gran rey de los mono wrote:
I should probably go back to doing the main quest line at some point. I'm not too far in, but have been distracted by other things. Like the whole island of Solsteim. And becoming head of the Thieves' Guild. And joining the Mage College. And joining the Dark Brotherhood. And just doing all sorts of random favors for people.
Theirs a main quest?

Main quest

I'm at Diplomatic Immunity.


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I have been sorely tempted to give in to one of my long-time desires: To try and get someone to honor what is clearly an accident on their signage. Due to construction, I've been taking a different route to and from work than usual (although I may stick with it, I think it is slightly faster), and along the way is the local VFW. Their sign advertises that on Wednesday nights they have .50¢ wings, and it's on both sides of the sign. So, I want to go in one Wednesday and ask for a bunch of chicken wings at 2 for a penny. I won't though. It's not worth it.


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captain yesterday wrote:

No, you hold down triangle and the idea is you're supposed to draw your sword and slice someone in half in one motion but I'm slow on the slicing in half part so it's usually me getting sliced in half.

But just typing that out has given me an idea on what I'm doing wrong.

Just because I have to. Iaijutsu. Also iaido will work for the same concept. It's an entire martial art.


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Fantasy Monster: Rootbiter Gremlin. A plant-eating gremlin hiding among your potted plants.

Scarab Sages

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The weather is truely turning to autumn now so now I get to stress: Is it COVID or just my regular cold returning, made just to feel worse because I stress that it might be COVID?


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I think that every time I get the slightest cough Woran. I'm ready for it to be over.


gran rey de los mono wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
I know I haven't actually read any of the books in Skyrim.
Most of them, I don't bother with. Some of the journals and notes you find during quests can give a hint to what is up ahead, but most of them aren't that useful. A few of them are kind of funny, though. Like when you find a bandit's diary and read about how much they hate that other guy because he's always bragging about how deadly he is. And then you meet the guy and kill him in two seconds.

Oh I press whatever button it is to flip through the books to trigger quests or get their skill bonus, but I never actually read any of them.

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