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Tacticslion wrote:
Tequila Sunrise wrote:

Was poking around Netflix last night and I had a very belated surprise.

I've heard people talk about it, but always thought that "Keeping up with the Kardashians" was an ironic way of saying "I'm watching The Kardashians" rather than the show literally being named Keeping up with the Kardashians.

And now it sounds not only boring, but exhaustingly boring.

You went up notches in my book, by teaching me a thing I didn't know!

Also, trap now set.

how could you not know?


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How can you not bask in my black manliness?


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Freehold DM wrote:
How can you not bask in my black manliness?

The answer is simple. I have as much of an obsession with the female form as you do. Black manliness simply cannot compare to t~%# and female ass. To me.

EDIT - Why is t#*$ censored but ass is not? That's weird. Tatas? Boobs? Gazongas? None of these are censored. Canons. Hooters. Teets. Nope. Weird how only t%~% is censored.


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1) because I've never watched it?
2) because I don't care?


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I don't think I'll ever understand our society's obsession with and borderline worship of entertainers.

They are people who temporarily alleviate boredom. That's it. That's all they do.

Musicians, actors, sports stars, etc - they may work hard, I don't deny it at all, but they don't work any harder than factory workers, scientists, or janitors. True, some may inspire, but inspiration can come anywhere in life, and when it comes down to it, their primary purpose in occupation is to temporarily alleviate our boredom. That's their contribution to society.

An electrician makes it possible for you to even know these people exist. A plumber makes sure you aren't living in your own filth. A scientist expands our knowledge. A teacher passes that knowledge onto pliable minds. Politicians, for all their slime as human beings, actually change our world dramatically more than every entertainer combined. Even a humble maid prevents bugs, mold, and other undesirables from invading your home, while leaving it in a better state than when they walked in.

A hundred years ago, people would be ashamed if their child married an entertainer. Now, it's the highlight of someone's life if they land a movie star, a football player, or a pop star. And yes, I too enjoy what they do, and appreciate them for it, but it still blows my mind that they're appreciated fiscally thousands of times more than the average person today.


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Tacticslion wrote:
Vanykrye wrote:
Just a Mort wrote:
My BF's IT woes. They are calling him for every stoopid problem they could fix themselves on their end. Worse still, they called him to fix a problem at the wrong location. How is he supposed to fix a problem at a place where the problem doesn't exist?

I believe their answer to your question is "Well, he's in IT! I'm sure he can figure it out! Remote or whatever it is!" Of course, they're complaining about their monitor making a noise that only they can hear, but he should be able to to hear that over his computer speakers.

Translation: I know his pain. All too well.

All too well?

All too well.


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The Vagrant Erudite wrote:

I don't think I'll ever understand our society's obsession with and borderline worship of entertainers.

They are people who temporarily alleviate boredom. That's it. That's all they do.

Musicians, actors, sports stars, etc - they may work hard, I don't deny it at all, but they don't work any harder than factory workers, scientists, or janitors. True, some may inspire, but inspiration can come anywhere in life, and when it comes down to it, their primary purpose in occupation is to temporarily alleviate our boredom. That's their contribution to society.

An electrician makes it possible for you to even know these people exist. A plumber makes sure you aren't living in your own filth. A scientist expands our knowledge. A teacher passes that knowledge onto pliable minds. Politicians, for all their slime as human beings, actually change our world dramatically more than every entertainer combined. Even a humble maid prevents bugs, mold, and other undesirables from invading your home, while leaving it in a better state than when they walked in.

A hundred years ago, people would be ashamed if their child married an entertainer. Now, it's the highlight of someone's life if they land a movie star, a football player, or a pop star. And yes, I too enjoy what they do, and appreciate them for it, but it still blows my mind that they're appreciated fiscally thousands of times more than the average person today.

Don't forget that they're automagically considered fit for political office, no matter how pathetic their work experience.

As I was telling Impus Major yesterday, if Paris Hilton ran for governor of California, she would probably win.


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Tacticslion wrote:

1) because I've never watched it?

2) because I don't care?

3) Because it's so-called reality TV.

4) Because it's a show about conspicuous consumption.
5) Because I don't even know what the Kardashians are supposed to be famous for.
6) For all I know, they're just rich folks who plastered themselves on TV.


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Tequila Sunrise wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:

1) because I've never watched it?

2) because I don't care?

3) Because it's so-called reality TV.

4) Because it's a show about conspicuous consumption.
5) Because I don't even know what the Kardashians are supposed to be famous for.
6) For all I know, they're just rich folks who plastered themselves on TV.

5) - Getting OJ off the hook. Their father was one of his lawyers. Also f$#@ing Kanye. Also being related to Bruce Jenner.

So, celebrity by association.

They contribute even less to society than actual entertainers.


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The Vagrant Erudite wrote:

To be fair, only California has made that mistake thus far, and they lucked out pretty well cause Arnold wasn't as bad as anyone expected him to be. You guys are the heart of celebrity, and thus the heart of celebrity worship - I think the East would be more likely to elect a football player, to be honest - and given the detrimental effects of all those concussions and micro-concussions, we'd be all the worse off for it.

EDIT - Oh, wait. Jessie Ventura. Welp. I stand corrected. I think a wrestler counts as an actor/athlete hybrid.

Clint Eastwood. Donald Trump. Ronald Reagan. Jesse Ventura. Arnold Schwartzenegger. Sonny Bono. I'm sure I could think of half a dozen more...

...but yeah, most are from California only because most of them reside in California...


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NobodysHome wrote:
The Vagrant Erudite wrote:

I don't think I'll ever understand our society's obsession with and borderline worship of entertainers.

They are people who temporarily alleviate boredom. That's it. That's all they do.

Musicians, actors, sports stars, etc - they may work hard, I don't deny it at all, but they don't work any harder than factory workers, scientists, or janitors. True, some may inspire, but inspiration can come anywhere in life, and when it comes down to it, their primary purpose in occupation is to temporarily alleviate our boredom. That's their contribution to society.

An electrician makes it possible for you to even know these people exist. A plumber makes sure you aren't living in your own filth. A scientist expands our knowledge. A teacher passes that knowledge onto pliable minds. Politicians, for all their slime as human beings, actually change our world dramatically more than every entertainer combined. Even a humble maid prevents bugs, mold, and other undesirables from invading your home, while leaving it in a better state than when they walked in.

A hundred years ago, people would be ashamed if their child married an entertainer. Now, it's the highlight of someone's life if they land a movie star, a football player, or a pop star. And yes, I too enjoy what they do, and appreciate them for it, but it still blows my mind that they're appreciated fiscally thousands of times more than the average person today.

Don't forget that they're automagically considered fit for political office, no matter how pathetic their work experience.

As I was telling Impus Major yesterday, if Paris Hilton ran for governor of California, she would probably win.

She might be better than many of actual politicians and might be more shrewd and smarter than she appears to be. Might. There are some hints here and there that she was playing dumb blonde. She certainly showed issues that can be expected of a child of parents too rich to handle their children well but also showed surprising depth at times.


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NobodysHome wrote:
The Vagrant Erudite wrote:

To be fair, only California has made that mistake thus far, and they lucked out pretty well cause Arnold wasn't as bad as anyone expected him to be. You guys are the heart of celebrity, and thus the heart of celebrity worship - I think the East would be more likely to elect a football player, to be honest - and given the detrimental effects of all those concussions and micro-concussions, we'd be all the worse off for it.

EDIT - Oh, wait. Jessie Ventura. Welp. I stand corrected. I think a wrestler counts as an actor/athlete hybrid.

Clint Eastwood. Donald Trump. Ronald Reagan. Jesse Ventura. Arnold Schwartzenegger. Sonny Bono. I'm sure I could think of half a dozen more...

...but yeah, most are from California only because most of them reside in California...

Al Franken

Kal Penn
Cynthia Nixon
Fred Thompson
Manny Pacquiao


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Oh, and speaking of politics...

Yeah, I know, I know:
I have already expressed my disdain for Buffy Wicks multiple times here, as she is the epitome of "big money" politics: Every single day, a new glossy flier in my mailbox showing pictures of her with Obama, Clinton, Feinstein, Pelosi, or other recognizable Democrats. Just an out-and-out, "Don't pay any attention to my policies, my financials, or anything else about me! Just look at who I know!"

A vile, big-money politician through and through. She would never have gotten my vote anyway; even if she ran unopposed I'd put in a write-in.

So last night I got a robo-dial recorded message endorsing Buffy Wicks.

From Hillary fricking Clinton.

She seems to remain utterly clueless that not only is her political career effectively over, but that pretty much everyone outside of the Democratic party considers her a political pariah.
Having her endorse you as a candidate is kind of like inviting a neo-Nazi sect leader to host your Bar Mitzvah.

Not the politically wisest of decisions.


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Arnold Schwarzenegger was at least a highly competent businessman before getting into politics. Probably more competent than...

*ducks*

Grand Lodge

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I will be happy to have today over so we can stop hearing all these messages about the elections.


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I stand highly corrected, and withdraw my statement.

How the hell could I forget some of those people? I'm going to get some coffee...clearly I need it...


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Whoa, guys, my comment was meant to bash societal worship of entertainers, not to open a can of political worms on election day in this our sanctuary from the politics!


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If I had to use three words to describe me right now they would be wet and muddy.


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TriOmegaZero wrote:
I will be happy to have today over so we can stop hearing all these messages about the elections.

God, any political ads should come with an option to check a box for "I did advance voting two weeks ago; pike off."

The blatant fearmongering and tone-deaf mass texts have been nothing short of shameless this year.


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In better news, I got my invisible ink pens!


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The Vagrant Erudite wrote:

I don't think I'll ever understand our society's obsession with and borderline worship of entertainers.

They are people who temporarily alleviate boredom. That's it. That's all they do.

Musicians, actors, sports stars, etc - they may work hard, I don't deny it at all, but they don't work any harder than factory workers, scientists, or janitors. True, some may inspire, but inspiration can come anywhere in life, and when it comes down to it, their primary purpose in occupation is to temporarily alleviate our boredom. That's their contribution to society.

An electrician makes it possible for you to even know these people exist. A plumber makes sure you aren't living in your own filth. A scientist expands our knowledge. A teacher passes that knowledge onto pliable minds. Politicians, for all their slime as human beings, actually change our world dramatically more than every entertainer combined. Even a humble maid prevents bugs, mold, and other undesirables from invading your home, while leaving it in a better state than when they walked in.

A hundred years ago, people would be ashamed if their child married an entertainer. Now, it's the highlight of someone's life if they land a movie star, a football player, or a pop star. And yes, I too enjoy what they do, and appreciate them for it, but it still blows my mind that they're appreciated fiscally thousands of times more than the average person today.

you do realize you alleviating boredom by posting this, yes? And that you are posting this onmessageboard dedicated to a practice that alleviates boredom, yes? Boredom is an incredibly powerful motivator. Most people will do anything to avoid it.


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Yep - but we can avoid boredom without entertainers. We have entertainment devices, games, stories, the ability to express through art independently without viewing others' entertainment - it's as I said with inspiration - they may inspire, but inspiration comes from everywhere. Entertainment, as well, can come from anywhere, without people who are paid millions of dollars to contribute superfluously to the source.


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NobodysHome wrote:
The Vagrant Erudite wrote:

I don't think I'll ever understand our society's obsession with and borderline worship of entertainers.

They are people who temporarily alleviate boredom. That's it. That's all they do.

Musicians, actors, sports stars, etc - they may work hard, I don't deny it at all, but they don't work any harder than factory workers, scientists, or janitors. True, some may inspire, but inspiration can come anywhere in life, and when it comes down to it, their primary purpose in occupation is to temporarily alleviate our boredom. That's their contribution to society.

An electrician makes it possible for you to even know these people exist. A plumber makes sure you aren't living in your own filth. A scientist expands our knowledge. A teacher passes that knowledge onto pliable minds. Politicians, for all their slime as human beings, actually change our world dramatically more than every entertainer combined. Even a humble maid prevents bugs, mold, and other undesirables from invading your home, while leaving it in a better state than when they walked in.

A hundred years ago, people would be ashamed if their child married an entertainer. Now, it's the highlight of someone's life if they land a movie star, a football player, or a pop star. And yes, I too enjoy what they do, and appreciate them for it, but it still blows my mind that they're appreciated fiscally thousands of times more than the average person today.

Don't forget that they're automagically considered fit for political office, no matter how pathetic their work experience.

As I was telling Impus Major yesterday, if Paris Hilton ran for governor of California, she would probably win.

I loved her in her first movie.


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Psh, even there, she's subpar compared to people actually good at the job...


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This one is from yesterday. It made me both sad and angry. It makes me want to quit my job and become a wilderness guide in some part of the world I can't pronounce and have never previously known existed.

Quick background: Daylight Savings Time changes on some of our remote users' computers causes a slight issue...if the time doesn't automatically update correctly on the computer, then they can't log in to our systems because the security codes are time-stamped. To fix it I just have to force the computer to update with time.nist.gov or time.windows.com. No big deal (it's a button push on the computer). But first I have to see if the computer has the wrong time in the first place...

Me: So, what time zone are you in?

User: Mountain.

Me: Ok, so it looks like the computer is an hour off. It's 12:51 here, so it should be 11:51 where you are.

User: No, it's 10:51.

Me: The computer says it's 10:51, but you just said you were in Mountain Time, and that's an hour behind me. It's 12:51 here.

User: Ok! (This is a BRIGHT AND CHEERY "Ok!")

Me: ... Wait...so you're definitely saying it's absolutely 10:51 there?

User: Yep!

Me: ...Are...are you in Arizona or some other location that does strange things with Daylight Savings Time changes?

User: No, I'm in California.

Me: ...So you're on Pacific Time.

User: Ok!

Me: So that means your issue has nothing to do with the time being off, because it's not off.

User: Ok!

Me: Just try logging in again...

User: Hey! It worked! You are AMAZING!

No...I did nothing...other than point out that you don't know what time zone you live in...


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The Vagrant Erudite wrote:
Yep - but we can avoid boredom without entertainers. We have entertainment devices, games, stories, the ability to express through art independently without viewing others' entertainment - it's as I said with inspiration - they may inspire, but inspiration comes from everywhere. Entertainment, as well, can come from anywhere, without people who are paid millions of dollars to contribute superfluously to the source.

So...bold emphasis mine...you're saying we don't need entertainers (actors/musicians/artists/athletes/etc) because we can become entertainers ourselves...and therefore become less useful to society.


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Vanykrye wrote:

This one is from yesterday. It made me both sad and angry. It makes me want to quit my job and become a wilderness guide in some part of the world I can't pronounce and have never previously known existed.

Quick background: Daylight Savings Time changes on some of our remote users' computers causes a slight issue...if the time doesn't automatically update correctly on the computer, then they can't log in to our systems because the security codes are time-stamped. To fix it I just have to force the computer to update with time.nist.gov or time.windows.com. No big deal (it's a button push on the computer). But first I have to see if the computer has the wrong time in the first place...

Me: So, what time zone are you in?

User: Mountain.

Me: Ok, so it looks like the computer is an hour off. It's 12:51 here, so it should be 11:51 where you are.

User: No, it's 10:51.

Me: The computer says it's 10:51, but you just said you were in Mountain Time, and that's an hour behind me. It's 12:51 here.

User: Ok! (This is a BRIGHT AND CHEERY "Ok!")

Me: ... Wait...so you're definitely saying it's absolutely 10:51 there?

User: Yep!

Me: ...Are...are you in Arizona or some other location that does strange things with Daylight Savings Time changes?

User: No, I'm in California.

Me: ...So you're on Pacific Time.

User: Ok!

Me: So that means your issue has nothing to do with the time being off, because it's not off.

User: Ok!

Me: Just try logging in again...

User: Hey! It worked! You are AMAZING!

No...I did nothing...other than point out that you don't know what time zone you live in...

So, what you're saying is Big (Slow) Pete has family in California.


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I'm willing to live in a world with the Kardashians and Paris Hilton as long as it includes Weird Al to lampoon them.


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Vanykrye wrote:
The Vagrant Erudite wrote:
Yep - but we can avoid boredom without entertainers. We have entertainment devices, games, stories, the ability to express through art independently without viewing others' entertainment - it's as I said with inspiration - they may inspire, but inspiration comes from everywhere. Entertainment, as well, can come from anywhere, without people who are paid millions of dollars to contribute superfluously to the source.
So...bold emphasis mine...you're saying we don't need entertainers (actors/musicians/artists/athletes/etc) because we can become entertainers ourselves...and therefore become less useful to society.

I like to think I can multitask that.


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Yes, but Weird Al is getting up in age, whereas those idiots are still relatively young. He needs to pass the torch, or at least prepare to by choosing a successor and training them in the art of proper musical satire. Tenacious D takes themselves too seriously, and Flight of the Conchords is just too weird, so who, who takes on the musical parody genre's golden throne when he retires or passes on?

Anyway, to Vanykrye, I did point out that I appreciate what entertainers do, and simply disagreed that they deserve to be compensated a thousand-fold for it. It was practically the last sentence of my original statement.

I wrote:
And yes, I too enjoy what they do, and appreciate them for it, but it still blows my mind that they're appreciated fiscally thousands of times more than the average person today.


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Hey now, no need for negativity, I just spent four hours in the rain and mud.

Let's just leave it at appreciating Weird Al while we have him.


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The Vagrant Erudite wrote:

Yes, but Weird Al is getting up in age, whereas those idiots are still relatively young. He needs to pass the torch, or at least prepare to by choosing a successor and training them in the art of proper musical satire. Tenacious D takes themselves too seriously, and Flight of the Conchords is just too weird, so who, who takes on the musical parody genre's golden throne when he retires or passes on?

Anyway, I did point out that I appreciate what entertainers do, and simply disagreed that they deserve to be compensated a thousand-fold for it. It was practically the last sentence of my original statement.

I wrote:
And yes, I too enjoy what they do, and appreciate them for it, but it still blows my mind that they're appreciated fiscally thousands of times more than the average person today.

Bob's Burgers writers.


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I didn't mean for that to come across as mean. I love Weird Al. I genuinely think he's great. The second half of my post was to Vanykrye. I'll edit it to specify that.

I was merely engaging in a thought exercise. I wonder who is number two in Weird Al's specific genre. I figured it would be an interesting shift of topic. Any ideas? Second best parody musician?


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I didn't think you were being mean,I just don't want to think of a world without Weird Al is all.

It's all good, no worries!


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Scintillae wrote:
In better news, I got my invisible ink pens!

I read "invisible pants"...


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Alright. Didn't wanna alienate ya, cap. Just cause I'm on a new handle doesn't mean you aren't still one of my favorite people on the Paizo boards. You brought me to the FaWtL zone, remember?

*puts on some Kenny Loggins and sings off-tune* Highway to the FaWtL Zone!


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You'll have to do more than that to alienate me.


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I think the next generation of parody will be cartoon writers.


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Some days, I could be replaced with a foam-rubber finger.

"When's this essay due?" points halfway down page
"What's the assignment?" points to writing on board
"When does this class get out?" points to schedule posted by clock


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The Vagrant Erudite wrote:

Yes, but Weird Al is getting up in age, whereas those idiots are still relatively young. He needs to pass the torch, or at least prepare to by choosing a successor and training them in the art of proper musical satire. Tenacious D takes themselves too seriously, and Flight of the Conchords is just too weird, so who, who takes on the musical parody genre's golden throne when he retires or passes on?

Anyway, to Vanykrye, I did point out that I appreciate what entertainers do, and simply disagreed that they deserve to be compensated a thousand-fold for it. It was practically the last sentence of my original statement.

I wrote:
And yes, I too enjoy what they do, and appreciate them for it, but it still blows my mind that they're appreciated fiscally thousands of times more than the average person today.

You're right, I did miss that sentence. Multitasking.

But it really comes down to simple supply and demand principles, as well as what people are willing to negotiate and percentages of billions of dollars. What is an athlete worth to a sports team's bottom line and performance? Apparently several millions of dollars. I also remember that those individuals tend to retire at age 30ish and have to cover their own medical expenses after their careers are over...and deal with far more broken of a body than I possess...I mean, guys in their 20's getting 6-7 knee surgeries on each knee...

I don't have any issues with star athletes making what they make.

Actors? Black Panther made a billion dollars. How much of that billion dollars was Chadwick Boseman worth? Again, I don't have an issue with the amount that actors end up making - except that MOST actors don't make anywhere NEAR that. MOST actors are lucky to keep a roof over their heads.

Same with musicians.

If people didn't collectively decide "this is worth it to me", then these entertainers wouldn't make the money they do.


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captain yesterday wrote:
Me: ...Are...are you in Arizona or some other location that does not do strange things with time?

*Puts down Mayoral red pen*

Fixed that for ya.


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Scintillae wrote:

Some days, I could be replaced with a foam-rubber finger.

"When's this essay due?" points halfway down page
"What's the assignment?" points to writing on board
"When does this class get out?" points to schedule posted by clock

Back in high school when my mother was teaching high school and watching The Wire, she had similar problems. Apparently there is a scene where the Robin Hood type character (Omar?) tells a kingpin "Don't make me repeat myself...", so she asked me to photoshop a picture of him saying that.

After a few months of having that up on her wall, her kids themselves started warning newbie students when they asked a question she had recently answered "Shhh, yo! Look at the poster. Mrs A don't repeat herself!"


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Tequila Sunrise wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
Me: ...Are...are you in Arizona or some other location that does not do strange things with time?

*Puts down Mayoral red pen*

Fixed that for ya.

You're right, I'd love to go to not change for DST every year. I just meant "strange" in relation to "what everyone else is doing" even though it's one of the few things AZ does that makes more sense than everyone else.


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Hi, everyone!


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It looks like they followed thru on inclusive paladins for PF2, I am pleasantly surprised and intrigued.

The Exchange

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I'm still waking up at unholy hours and getting pissed about it. I suppose it's convenient to catch morning runs with, if I were so inclined, but I'm not running till the sun comes up. And I still have work today.


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'ello


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Hello, John!

You're just in time for a NEWSFLASH!!!!

* There has been a rubber mallet through the window of the 'Edward Cuisine' restaurant for around four months now. How did it get there? Why haven't they taken it out? Nobody knows!


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I don't mind daylight savings time, it gives co-worker something to complain about for six weeks of the year.

I can't imagine how it would be if I saw him regularly during the spring daylight savings time.

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