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Wizards spend day in and day out on the same spell list. They're known for knowing all this magic, but if they forget to fill out a sticky note...no prestidigitation today!
Blasphemer!!! The Horde has hereby noted your location and placed you somewhere within the top 50 to be devoured. We'll try to catch you in order, but it doesn't always work out that way.
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And archivists have the ability to crib from so many spell lists they haven't spent their entire lives studying, that it makes sense they'd have to cross-check some notes to get their list ready.
That used to be how wizards worked. I still am not happy with the idea of all casters getting new spells just cuz, wizards used to have to hunt them down or spend a good amount of money discovering them.
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Scintillae wrote:And archivists have the ability to crib from so many spell lists they haven't spent their entire lives studying, that it makes sense they'd have to cross-check some notes to get their list ready.That used to be how wizards worked. I still am not happy with the idea of all casters getting new spells just cuz, wizards used to have to hunt them down or spend a good amount of money discovering them.
They still get the two freebie spells each level-up, I believe. But their ability to only add Cleric spells from those, while they can snag scrolls for their spellbook from Druid/Paladin/Ranger/any other Divine caster, still is a pretty strong incentive to hunt down and pay up for scrolls to add.
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Wizards spend day in and day out on the same spell list. They're known for knowing all this magic, but if they forget to fill out a sticky note...no prestidigitation today!
Well at least in earlier Editions. In my opinion* Vancian casting, especially the way wizards do it is to memorise a formula. Like creating a mathematical equation in their brains, (or performing a piece of music). However until the solution is presented (or the final note is played) it's not complete and only upon completion will the magical energies be released & thus the spell cast.
This is why there are limits to the number of spells a wizard can cast everyday. As each equation (song) causes a build up of magical pressure in his skull. To try and remember more would be catastrophic.It's also why there were hard limits for the number of different spells of a single level, as the wizard could only remember & understand a certain number of possible formulae (depending upon his intelligence). It's not like reading from a book, but rather solving an equation.
*Very important preface, meaning I'm probably wrong - but it's a day of the week ending in the letter "y" & I'm always wrong on those.
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Scintillae wrote:Wizards spend day in and day out on the same spell list. They're known for knowing all this magic, but if they forget to fill out a sticky note...no prestidigitation today!Well at least in earlier Editions. In my opinion* Vancian casting, especially the way wizards do it is to memorise a formula. Like creating a mathematical equation in their brains, (or performing a piece of music). However until the solution is presented (or the final note is played) it's not complete and only upon completion will the magical energies be released & thus the spell cast.
This is why there are limits to the number of spells a wizard can cast everyday. As each equation (song) causes a build up of magical pressure in his skull. To try and remember more would be catastrophic.
It's also why there were hard limits for the number of different spells of a single level, as the wizard could only remember & understand a certain number of possible formulae (depending upon his intelligence). It's not like reading from a book, but rather solving an equation.*Very important preface, meaning I'm probably wrong - but it's a day of the week ending in the letter "y" & I'm always wrong on those.
Okay, that makes a heck of a lot more sense.
Now if only we could do something about one page per level on the spellbooks. =P
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Well it could be thought of to be a really long and complex equation. So a 4th Order Differential Equation, using Lagrangian Techniques (4th Level Spell) might require more space the read and work through than a Fourier Transformation (1st Level type spell)
Of course, it doesn't help with spells like POWER WORD: STUN
:P
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Well it could be thought of to be a really long and complex equation. So a 4th Order Differential Equation, using Lagrangian Techniques (4th Level Spell) might require more space the read and work through than a Fourier Transformation (1st Level type spell)
Of course, it doesn't help with spells like POWER WORD: STUN
:P
Obviously the word is just the aural effect of a long and complicated chain of mental practices required to memorise in order to cast it. ;)
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Good morning FAWTLY Folk! Somewhat happy Tuesday! I'm taking some training at a BP facility this morning. The drive here was fun, as I was basically driving by verbal directions from my supervisor and the google map app on my phone. Made it here without any problems.
And that's where the fun began. No one to ask or show where visitor parking is. When I finally found a spot that said visitor parking, pressing the button on the intercom panel did nothing. So then I had to turn around and try to find another place to park. Ended up randomly following another car and lucked out on a sign directing me to more visitor parking.
Found my way to the reception desk for the building I needed to be in, and they told me someone would collect me around 0745. Then why the f!%% did you say in the email to be here at 0730?!? Why have me waste f@&+ing time sitting on my ass for 15 minutes?!?
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DSXMachina wrote:Obviously the word is just the aural effect of a long and complicated chain of mental practices required to memorise in order to cast it. ;)Well it could be thought of to be a really long and complex equation. So a 4th Order Differential Equation, using Lagrangian Techniques (4th Level Spell) might require more space the read and work through than a Fourier Transformation (1st Level type spell)
Of course, it doesn't help with spells like POWER WORD: STUN
:P
Of course, or it's a complicated Sigil that adhere's to the tenants put down in Sprague de Camps symbological Magic system used by Harold Shea.