Let me preface this by saying if the trick works, I'm fine with it, but I'm wondering if there's something I'm missing, because we just finally shifted our 3.5 game to Pathfinder last night for the first time and I'm still working through the rules changes. Antipaladin in my game opts to go with the fiendish servant. Picks a Babau. Continuously bombs every encounter with AOE dispel magic and/or readies counterspells from the Babau.
Legit trick? I allowed it last night, pending review this morning, and it seems legit.
The second type of bond allows an antipaladin to gain the service of a fiendish servant. This functions as summon monster III, except the duration is permanent and the antipaladin can only gain the service of a single creature and that creature must either have the chaotic and evil subtypes or it must be a fiendish animal.
Babau has both the chaotic and evil subtypes and is in the Summon Monster V list. (PC is 10th level)
"A summoned monster cannot summon or otherwise conjure another creature, nor can it use any teleportation or planar travel abilities. Creatures cannot be summoned into an environment that cannot support them. Creatures summoned using this spell cannot use spells or spell-like abilities that duplicate spells with expensive material components (such as wish)."
Dispel has no mat component.
Spell-Like Abilities (CL 7th)
Constant—see invisibility
At will—darkness, dispel magic, greater teleport (self plus 50 lbs. of objects only)
1/day—summon (level 3, 1 babau at 40%)
Reads like he gets at-will darkness or at-will dispel magic out of the Babau every round. Correct?
I can't see any reason why the trick wouldn't work, but I want to check.
Works, but note the changes to dispel magic, the fact that the CL is 7th ( thus having a chance of 25% or lower to actually dispel something) and the fact that at 10th level a babau will be rather fragile, and if it is killed it can't be summoned again for 30 days.
Works, but note the changes to dispel magic, the fact that the CL is 7th ( thus having a chance of 25% or lower to actually dispel something) and the fact that at 10th level a babau will be rather fragile, and if it is killed it can't be summoned again for 30 days.
Interesting.
The "25% or lower" thing - just trying to follow your logic: 7th level caster means the dispel check is going to range from 8 to 27, with a median value of 18.5ish. DC for dispel is 11 + caster level, so he'd be dispelling caster level 6 stuff on a die result of ten or better. Correct? When you say "25% or lower" you're assuming he's going up against CL 10 or higher effects, correct?
I hadn't considered digging down to the dispel DCs. Thanks.
Works, but note the changes to dispel magic, the fact that the CL is 7th ( thus having a chance of 25% or lower to actually dispel something) and the fact that at 10th level a babau will be rather fragile, and if it is killed it can't be summoned again for 30 days.Interesting.
The "25% or lower" thing - just trying to follow your logic: 7th level caster means the dispel check is going to range from 8 to 27, with a median value of 18.5ish. DC for dispel is 11 + caster level, so he'd be dispelling caster level 6 stuff on a die result of ten or better. Correct? When you say "25% or lower" you're assuming he's going up against CL 10 or higher effects, correct?
I hadn't considered digging down to the dispel DCs. Thanks.
Right, assuming a average CL of 10 or 11.