2 Summoner's Eidolon base forms


Homebrew and House Rules


Egg
Starting Statistics: Size Medium; Speed 20 ft.; AC +4
natural armor; Saves Fort (good), Ref (bad), Will (good);
Attack slam (1d8); Ability Scores Str 13, Dex 12, Con 16, Int 7,
Wis 10, Cha 11; Free Evolutions slam,improved natural armor, resistance fire acid and cold. (note* for all other evolutions treat as Biped. ie.mount)

Bird
Starting Statistics: Size Medium; Speed 30 ft.; AC +2
natural armor; Saves Fort (bad), Ref (good), Will (good);
Attack 2 wing buffet (1d4); Ability Scores Str 12, Dex 16, Con 13, Int 7,
Wis 10, Cha 11; Free Evolutions flight, limbs (legs), wing buffet.
(note* for all other evolutions treat as Quadruped. ie.mount)

your thoughts?


No other Eidalon can get flight before 5th level.


your right
my over site

egg on face


What would one do with "egg"?
Is there a concept?


meat shield like eidalon made to take hit after hit
i was thinking like a turtle but that hops


I did this instead for birds.

Racer
This base form is primarily a basis for a bird-like eidelon at later levels. The base form is similar to a biped, but may take the Mount and Trample evolutions. It may not take the Limbs (legs) evolution, and if it takes the Limbs (arms) evolution, these arms are considered to be 0 reach limbs. This base form is best used as a basis for bipedal dinosaur eidelons, or as a base form for bird type eidelons. The racer base form has two selected free evolutions. These evolutions may be changed whenever the base form can normally be changed. However, all prerequisites must still be met. For example, the free wing buffet requires wings, and so could not be taken prior to level 5. The tail swipe requires the tail evolution, so both tail and tail swipe must be taken as the free evolutions.

Starting Statistics

Size Medium
Speed 30 ft.
AC +2 natural armor
Saves Fort (good), Ref (good), Will (bad)
Attack variable
Ability Scores Str 14, Dex 14, Con 13, Int 7, Wis 10, Cha 11
Free Evolutions limbs (legs), choice of two of (bite, claws, slam, tail, tail slap, talons, wing buffet).

More customizations I did can be found on PathfinderDB.


whats the trade off with your clockwork eidelon

Shadow Lodge

First thing I thought of when I saw "Egg"


that was my line of thought too

i can see the summoner with out thinking digitammon or poka'mon

Shadow Lodge

So can I. Making a Digimon or Pokemon Eidolon is a lot harder than people think too.

But serious, it's an egg that can move. How is that not Digitamamon?


austin thomas wrote:

that was my line of thought too

i can see the summoner with out thinking digitammon or poka'mon

no i sorry i did not read over my post i meant to say....

i really can not see the summoner with out thinking digitammon or poka'mon

and the egg digitammon i what made me think of it ...that and eggacute

sorry for the bad post

Shadow Lodge

No need to be sorry, it's not like you fed the trolls or anything! ;)


austin thomas wrote:
whats the trade off with your clockwork eidelon

The trade off for the clockwork is that healing spells quit working on it. In other words, the team cleric can't heal it with a cure or channel, only the summoner himself can heal it with one of his class healing spells. That cuts down on the summoner's resources.

A cleric with alignment channel feat could still channel healing into the eidelon, if it had the right alignment.


oh i did not know that a cleric could heal it thank you

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Tentacled Blob base form (I plan on creating a Old Cult summoner archetype for Golarion)

This terrible mass of mouths, tentacles, and formless flesh stares in all directions, its tentacles waiving ceaselessly and maws crying incessantly. The tentacled blob base form may not select the following evolutions: flight with wings, gore, limbs (any), mount, pounce, tail, and trample.

Starting Statistics: Size Medium; Speed 20 ft., climb 20 ft. swim 20 ft.; AC +2 natural armor; Saves Fort (good), Ref (bad), Will (good); Attack 2 tentacles (1d4); Ability Scores Str 10, Dex 10, Con 17, Int 9, Wis 10, Cha 11; Free Evolutions climb, reach (tentacle), swim, tentacles (2).

Notes: Made the idea based on a gibbering mouther. Reduced speed and Str/Dex to allow more evolutions on the base form and a higher Con/Int.

New Evolutions
All-Around Vision (Ex)(2 pt) Eyes are formed all over the body and can see in all directions at once. It cannot be flanked.

Spittle (Ex)(2 pt) The eidolon can emit a stream of acidic spittle at one target within 30 feet. This is a secondary attack. On a successful attack, the target is blinded for 1d4 rounds unless he succeeds on a DC 18 Fortitude save. The save DC is Constitution-based.

Amorphous (Ex)(4 pt) The eidolon's body becomes malleable and shapeless. It is immune to precision damage (like sneak attacks) and critical hits, and can move through an area as small as one-quarter its space without squeezing or one-eighth its space when squeezing. This evolution is only available to the tentacled blob base form


Thomas LeBlanc wrote:


Spittle (Ex)(2 pt) The eidolon can emit a stream of acidic spittle at one target within 30 feet. This is a secondary attack. On a successful attack, the target is blinded for 1d4 rounds unless he succeeds on a DC 18 Fortitude save. The save DC is Constitution-based.

I'd make the save DC Reflex. Two reasons.

Reflex seems to make more sense for the 'Oh ****' moment and trying to get your eyes out of the way, either closing them, or getting a hand up in the way, or turning the head to take it on the side.

Second reason would be, primarily this would be used on your melee types, and in general, melee types have great fortitude saves. By making it reflex, you make it their (usually) weakest save, while giving the dex based builds a pass, thus evening the playing field a bit for dex based over con/str based melee fighters.

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mdt wrote:
Thomas LeBlanc wrote:


Spittle (Ex)(2 pt) The eidolon can emit a stream of acidic spittle at one target within 30 feet. This is a secondary attack. On a successful attack, the target is blinded for 1d4 rounds unless he succeeds on a DC 18 Fortitude save. The save DC is Constitution-based.

I'd make the save DC Reflex. Two reasons.

Reflex seems to make more sense for the 'Oh ****' moment and trying to get your eyes out of the way, either closing them, or getting a hand up in the way, or turning the head to take it on the side.

Second reason would be, primarily this would be used on your melee types, and in general, melee types have great fortitude saves. By making it reflex, you make it their (usually) weakest save, while giving the dex based builds a pass, thus evening the playing field a bit for dex based over con/str based melee fighters.

Hmm, good points. Maybe change it to a ranged touch attack with a Ref save?


Thomas LeBlanc wrote:
mdt wrote:
Thomas LeBlanc wrote:


Spittle (Ex)(2 pt) The eidolon can emit a stream of acidic spittle at one target within 30 feet. This is a secondary attack. On a successful attack, the target is blinded for 1d4 rounds unless he succeeds on a DC 18 Fortitude save. The save DC is Constitution-based.

I'd make the save DC Reflex. Two reasons.

Reflex seems to make more sense for the 'Oh ****' moment and trying to get your eyes out of the way, either closing them, or getting a hand up in the way, or turning the head to take it on the side.

Second reason would be, primarily this would be used on your melee types, and in general, melee types have great fortitude saves. By making it reflex, you make it their (usually) weakest save, while giving the dex based builds a pass, thus evening the playing field a bit for dex based over con/str based melee fighters.

Hmm, good points. Maybe change it to a ranged touch attack with a Ref save?

If you make it an RTA, you'll want to lower the DC of the save, since it'll be much much easier to hit the guys with the low touch AC (who also have low reflex saves). So, maybe 15 DC or even 13.

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