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I am posting this here as I think the Samurai is the most likely to have different armour compared to the other 2 classes
is there going to be new armour types in the UC?
such as
Ashigaru - light armour used be rank & file foot soldiers usually
Lamellar - medium armour used by hvy foot soldiers
O-Yoroi (Great armour) - Heavy armour that you see Samurai regularly wearing
I am posting this here as I think the Samurai is the most likely to have different armour compared to the other 2 classes
is there going to be new armour types in the UC?
such asAshigaru - light armour used be rank & file foot soldiers usually
Lamellar - medium armour used by hvy foot soldiers
O-Yoroi (Great armour) - Heavy armour that you see Samurai regularly wearing
Ashigaru was actually the name for foot soldiers, not the armour they wore.
Thx Kierato - I knew this (not sure if others do)
I used the name from previous D&D books as I could not find a name for the armour as a complete suit - only the pieces so I just used it again
Ah, no offense meant. I couldn't find a name for it either. You could just name it after the breast plate, "hara-ate dou".
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Why create new armor for it? Historically the light armor troops were just a breastplate. So use breastplate. Splint mail(no such thing) has always been assumed to be lamellar with long plate style(samurai like armor) and scale mail(no such thing) also is considered lamellar but the smaller plate style. Biggest difference with samurai is wearing a solid chest plate vs lamellar plates.
So the samurai special armour would fit the descriptor for halfplate more or less.
Personally I find it sad that we focus on a little secluded island vs the huge continent of asia and all its amazing history.
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Well, I know that for my games this class will be less 'samurai' and more 'youxia'. But I'm not sure how marketable that would be.
I mean, we've been strong-armed into accepting that ninja must be its own class instead of just a rogue or monk. I don't think we're going to win the argument over samurai.
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Samurai armor could be most attributed to being known as 'Slat Armor' since most samurai armor consisted of a variety of slats molded together into a set of armor (much like chainmail or, I would think, Platemail). I remember seeing 'Slat Armor' mentioned in some sourcebook a long time ago (non-PF) but I can't remember which one.
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Argh. Alright, let me dig in my notes. I'm not trying to get on anyone's case, but this is a pet peeve of mine, and trying not to comment frustrates me. Here's an excerpt of some work I did producing a slightly more historical D&D.
Quick research has produced quite a bit of frustration. Scale, splint, and banded armor are all constructed in similar fashions -- scales, splints, or bands of metal, leather, or bone are either sewn or riveted together into a coat of overlapping, flexible material. Furthermore, the use of larger metal plates integrated with chain causes the categories to blur further into the ill-defined realm of "half-plate". As such, delineating what constitutes one class of armor or another becomes remarkably difficult. Such historically questionable items as banded mail and studded leather armor remain in D&D today primarily as a result of inertia, but one such as myself finds this an insufficient reason and a quite frustrating one at that. The names scale, splint, banded armor and half-plate are kept, but it helps to recall that they are merely stat-lines for light, medium, and heavy composite armors.
Light Armors:
Examples of Class 1: quilted arming jacket or gambeson, sturdy leather jerkin
Examples of Class 2: leather or 'linen' breastplate (linothorax), bone or reed woven together, cuir bouilli leathers
Examples of Class 3: chain shirt
Medium Armors:
Examples of Class 1: lamellar armor, ring armor
Examples of Class 2: the chain hauberk, lorica hamata
Examples of Class 3: brigandine, harquebusier armor, hoplite's panolply
Heavy Armors:
Examples of Class 1: coat-of-plates, splinted armor, samurai armor, lorica segmentata
Examples of Class 2: plated-mail, Byzantine catephractoi armor
Examples of Class 3: articulated plate with an arming jacket and all the bells and whistles. There is no equal.This system gets rid of the redundant armors and, ideally, restores something resembling sense to the hierarchy.
The point is ... I will be annoyed if there are more armors in the UC book. Because there aren't any armors that aren't already covered. At this level of abstraction, at least. Heck, I deleted a few types of armor because they were unusable and dumb. So samurai wear plate. Or else wear breastplate.
But hey, I'm of the opinion that a wakizashi is a slashing short sword, the 'long sword' ought to be properly called an arming sword, and that double weapons are, for the most part, horrifying idiocy. Here's your grain of salt.
well im against MORE armor as much as I am against MORE weapons (im in the camp of getting rid of the monk exotic weapons)
although o-yori didnt have nearly the metal in it full plate had, it's protection would be the same.
So naming your armor fred, o-yori, or full plate doesnt matter.
I personally think it is a waste of ink.
It's like some modern games that have always written about 9 different types of 9 mm pistols.
waste of space.
I always like Star Wars.
Hold out blaster, light blaster, blaster, heavy blaster, blaster carbine and blaster rifle.
Beyond that, it's all customization.