So i was looking over the item creation feats for a character i might be playing in the future and when i was looking over what each creatable item did i stumbled upon somthing a little odd.
As far as i know scrolls and potions are pretty much the same thing besides the fact that you read one and drink the other and you get a one time spell effect.
But then i noticed that you have to be a caster lvl 3 to brew a potion and a caster lvl 1 to scribe a scroll. Even though potions only went up to a 3rd lvl spell and scrolls went all the way to 9th lvl spells.
Is there something that i am missing that makes potions better than scrolls?
So i was looking over the item creation feats for a character i might be playing in the future and when i was looking over what each creatable item did i stumbled upon somthing a little odd.
As far as i know scrolls and potions are pretty much the same thing besides the fact that you read one and drink the other and you get a one time spell effect.
But then i noticed that you have to be a caster lvl 3 to brew a potion and a caster lvl 1 to scribe a scroll. Even though potions only went up to a 3rd lvl spell and scrolls went all the way to 9th lvl spells.
Is there something that i am missing that makes potions better than scrolls?
Potions are usable by more people than scrolls. They can even be used by familiars and companions. Scrolls have more limitations.
Potions are usable by more people than scrolls. They can even be used by familiars and companions. Scrolls have more limitations.So i was looking over the item creation feats for a character i might be playing in the future and when i was looking over what each creatable item did i stumbled upon somthing a little odd.
As far as i know scrolls and potions are pretty much the same thing besides the fact that you read one and drink the other and you get a one time spell effect.
But then i noticed that you have to be a caster lvl 3 to brew a potion and a caster lvl 1 to scribe a scroll. Even though potions only went up to a 3rd lvl spell and scrolls went all the way to 9th lvl spells.
Is there something that i am missing that makes potions better than scrolls?
Limitations like what? I am fairly new to pathfinders and DnD in general and dont know what you are talking about.
Limitations like what? I am fairly new to pathfinders and DnD in general and dont know what you are talking about.Potions are usable by more people than scrolls. They can even be used by familiars and companions. Scrolls have more limitations.So i was looking over the item creation feats for a character i might be playing in the future and when i was looking over what each creatable item did i stumbled upon somthing a little odd.
As far as i know scrolls and potions are pretty much the same thing besides the fact that you read one and drink the other and you get a one time spell effect.
But then i noticed that you have to be a caster lvl 3 to brew a potion and a caster lvl 1 to scribe a scroll. Even though potions only went up to a 3rd lvl spell and scrolls went all the way to 9th lvl spells.
Is there something that i am missing that makes potions better than scrolls?
Scrolls require you to be able to cast the spell or Use Magic Device. Potions just require you to swallow.
Potions are good because anyone can use them.
Potions are bad because you can only 'bottle' low level spells.
Scrolls are good because you can put any spell you know on them.
Scrolls are bad because you must either be a caster, or have Use Magic Device to use them.
Spell Completion: This is the activation method for scrolls. A scroll is a spell that is mostly finished. The preparation is done for the caster, so no preparation time is needed beforehand as with normal spellcasting. All that's left to do is perform the finishing parts of the spellcasting (the final gestures, words, and so on). To use a spell completion item safely, a character must be of high enough level in the right class to cast the spell already. If he can't already cast the spell, there's a chance he'll make a mistake. Activating a spell completion item is a standard action (or the spell's casting time, whichever is longer) and provokes attacks of opportunity exactly as casting a spell does.
Hope that helps! :D
GNOME
Thanks for the swift replys. It does help a bunch :)
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GNOME
Anyone may drink a potion. To use a scroll the spell must be on one's spell list OR pass a umd skill check.
EDIT* strange, I kept hitting refresh expecting to see a responce. So of course when I respond, I am uber ninja'd :P
Anyone may drink a potion. To use a scroll the spell must be on one's spell list OR pass a umd skill check.
EDIT* strange, I kept hitting refresh expecting to see a responce. So of course when I respond, I am uber ninja'd :P
Try hitting CTRL+F5 (in Firefox) to force a complete page reload.
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Also you have to meet required ability score to cast the spell from scroll and if your caster level is lower than CL of a scroll you might waste sscroll and suffer backlash.
Also, potion can contain spell with casting time of less than one minute and are always activated as a standard action and scroll requires spell casting time to use with always at least 1 standard action.
On the other hand scroll allows you to use actual spell as if you cast it (except its fixed CL) and target someone/thing else while potion produces specific effect only upon drinker.