Posting finished character.
Ta da!
Is this where the free food is being handed out? I was told there would be food.
Free.
I like chicken.
Roasted is good. So is fried. Poached? Not so much.
:-)
Here we go!
"I am here."
here
Is this where the free food is being handed out? I was told there would be food.
Are you volunteering? I prefer Halfling over Gnome, but beggars and choosers... And fresh is fresh.
Is this where the free food is being handed out? I was told there would be food.Are you volunteering? I prefer Halfling over Gnome, but beggars and choosers... And fresh is fresh.
Er...
Did I hear a Halfling chasing a chicken over behind that bush?
*Dives into bushes*
Ready to go
Great thanks Nightflier.
Nightflier, I just caught something about the Varyag. I see what the class skills are, but nothing indicates what skill points they get.
Would you be willing to say that it is 4 + Int? He barely has any weapon proficiencies as it is. Having addition skills to work with would to round out the character quite nicely. This would also allow him to rely more on his abilities which is what I plan on him doing.
Thoughts?
And thanks for the bonus feat. I will incorporate it.
Great thanks Nightflier.
Pretty sure "Lucky" counts as "tied into the background." :-)
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Nightflier, I just caught something about the Varyag. I see what the class skills are, but nothing indicates what skill points they get.
Would you be willing to say that it is 4 + Int? He barely has any weapon proficiencies as it is. Having addition skills to work with would to round out the character quite nicely. This would also allow him to rely more on his abilities which is what I plan on him doing.
Thoughts?
And thanks for the bonus feat. I will incorporate it.
My mistake about skill points. Yeah, I planned 4 + Int.
Taemon'dow, did you take bonus feat?
Upon thinking about it, I think Toughness would make the most sense as his Background feat. He was going to take it anyway, but it makes a lot of sense for him given his harsh life growing up in perpetual conflict with the Orcs in the Varadeen. He has likely been wounded many, many times, and always managed to survive by just being tougher than everyone else and being able to take more punishment.
Took a flaw, so there should be 3 traits. Flaw is listed under traits and is the first one listed.
I have not added the background bonus feat, awaiting for approval for background.
Another one, or the one for background that we have already been discussing?
I kinda hope he says "another one," 'cause when I look through everyone else's charries, I gotta admit to feeling just a bit underpowered and nekkid.
Which, I suppose, is how Gnomes and Halflings would normally feel, but still. :-)
If there is a power gap, giving everyone another feat probably won't close it.
Admittedly, Taemon'dow is a bit of a monster, but he's undead, so he's supposed to be a monster. His HP look high, but in reality they're not as high as they look, as as an undead he dies outright at 0, whereas Eadfaas can survive to -14.
@nightflier
Must background bonus feat be tied into the background? If so I will alter the background to include discovery or training related to feat.
@anyone
I tossing in my mind between these two feats:
+ dodge
+ arcane bond (via extra talent feat)
What would be better to take? I like to get Uncanny Dodge at some point for safety, yet also have interest in obtaining Patron: Healing for additional healing powers.
I think you'll get a lot more milage out of divine bond. The version presented here is very powerful, and appears quite useful.
Do we have anyone in the group specializing in range combat? I had considered that as a way to go for Taemon'dow, but the more I think about it, the more I think he'd be suited to melee in the long run. However, if no one is going to have much of any range capability, I might reconsider, or at least take a middle switch-hitter type route.
Therudrim has range capability with a long bow (when able to get one).
Yeah, I know the power gap wouldn't close. I was just grumping. Had our first blizzard of the year last night (while I was driving in it), so I'm grumpy. :-)
As for the ranged thing, Therudrim (last I looked) was using a bow with a +6 Wis bonus to hit.
Eadfaas prefers ranged combat (Non-combatant flaw), and he's OK at it in short range, as long as there's something he can pick up and throw (Throw Anything feat).
Also, I'm pretty sure Ryar is a bow fighter (if we get her a bow).
By the way, DarkOne, you're showing Therudrim as having an AC of 13. I'm pretty sure with your Talent choices, she should be using Wisdom instead of Dex, and should have an AC of 16.
Not sure the bonus applies to AC, it is linked to a specific weapon type.
No, I don't think it applies to AC either, but I think it does apply to CMB on maneuvers performed with the weapon. But check out this feat for future consideration:
Canny Defense (Combat)
Prerequisite: Int, Wis, or Cha 13.
Benefit: Choose one mental attribute score (once chosen, this cannot be changed). When wearing light armor or no armor, and not carrying a medium or heavy load, you treat that attribute modifier as an insight bonus to Armor Class and CMD, to a maximum bonus equal to your base attack bonus. This bonus applies even when you are flat-footed, but not if you are immobilized or helpless.
Sounds like as a group we have pretty solid range capacity, though no dedicated archer (Precise Shot/Rapid shot type that can fire away while the rest of the team is in melee).
Guess I'll have to think it over.
1: Channler Talent (Nature's Whispers): Attuned to nature. May use spellcasting modifier instead of Dex mod to Ac and CMD, though any condition that normally removes Dex bonus results in loosing spellcasting modifier
If you have this talent, You're using Wis instead of DEX on your AC and CMD, unless I'm reading it wrong.
Ah, yes you are correct. I forgot the Nature's Whispers that was taken. I will fixed those stats.
Yeah, Rÿar is ranged. I'd also be interested to know if the bonus feat is in addition to the background feat. I'm sure I could find one that I'd like. ;)
I am still debating on which feat I should take. I have narrowed it down to these:
Combat Reflexes
Improved Natural Armor
Skill Focus
Throw Anything
Toughness
Thoughts? I am leaning towards the natural armor at this point but would like some suggestions.
Lantesh, I would recommend Combat Reflexes as his bonus feat. Since he is Anwyn's bodyguard, that feat allows you to take the Bodyguard chain of feats. It would fit him perfectly IMO.
If Nightflier allows another additional feat then I would take the Imp. Natural Armor feat.
PS. Anwyn took Canny Defense as her additional bonus feat. AC 23 w/o armor FTW, he he.
Canny Defense is a pretty sweet ability; I took it too to use with my high charisma. However, I don't think you get the whole bonus at once. I think the text says the insight bonus you receive can't be higher than your BAB. That might make it a better feat to take at later levels, as Anwyn's BAB at level 1 is 0, meaning it won't even grant her a bonus until level 2.
I checked to see if one of the Channeler talents would work better for you, such as Sidestep, but is doesn't appear so. It would give you your full INT bonus to AC at level one, but it replaces the Dex modifier to do it, and since your Dex and Int are the same, it doesn't help you.
Yeah, Rÿar is ranged. I'd also be interested to know if the bonus feat is in addition to the background feat. I'm sure I could find one that I'd like. ;)
Sweet. If that's the case I may lean more towards melee. It doesn't appear so far that you have any range based feats (other than the free Weapon Focus); are you planning to take them?
Having these allows you to avoid the very cumbersome -4 penalty for shooting into melee (Precise Shot), and fire 4 arrows per round by level 6, instead of just 2 (Rapid Shot/Manyshot).
Lantesh, I would recommend Combat Reflexes as his bonus feat. Since he is Anwyn's bodyguard, that feat allows you to take the Bodyguard chain of feats. It would fit him perfectly IMO.
If Nightflier allows another additional feat then I would take the Imp. Natural Armor feat.
PS. Anwyn took Canny Defense as her additional bonus feat. AC 23 w/o armor FTW, he he.
I have altered the feats that Lantesh has. I have dropped weapon focus and have taken the following feats: Combat Reflexes and Improved Natural Armor.
Nightflier, regarding the beast form for the Varyag, how long does it last? I realized that there is no time limit stipulated. Does it go off of the spell or is there another duration you would like? Perhaps a greater limit of, oh say, 1 hour per level? Or would a different duration be better?
1 minute per level seems a bit restrictive for a lycanthrope to me.
Oki, fixed up the stats for Nature's Whispers feat.
Just waiting for nightflier's answer about background bonus feat.
Anyone has recommendation on which feat to take, the Dodge or Arcane Bond (probably be animal to fit in with the normal witch appearance).
PS: Is Arcane Bond the same as Pathfinder Arcane Bond for Wizards?
Anwyn, when looking through your character I was noticing how interesting the Blade Dancer class is. If I am going more melee, it strikes me that the class would be a very effective one for Taemon'dow, considering he will be fighting with Erunsil Fighting knives, which are a Finesse Weapon. Would you mind if there was a second blade dancer in the group? I might either stick with it, or potentially move into a straight fighter class later on, in order to become a Berzerker as originally intended.
Canny Defense is a pretty sweet ability; I took it too to use with my high charisma. However, I don't think you get the whole bonus at once. I think the text says the insight bonus you receive can't be higher than your BAB. That might make it a better feat to take at later levels, as Anwyn's BAB at level 1 is 0, meaning it won't even grant her a bonus until level 2.
Yeah you're right there, Anwyn doesn't get the bonuses until later levels. It is still a sweet feat though so she will keep it. I think it does fit her character build as well, plus AC 19 is nothing to sneeze at. (PS, Solvi also has the feat BTW.)
Anwyn, when looking through your character I was noticing how interesting the Blade Dancer class is. If I am going more melee, it strikes me that the class would be a very effective one for Taemon'dow, considering he will be fighting with Erunsil Fighting knives, which are a Finesse Weapon. Would you mind if there was a second blade dancer in the group? I might either stick with it, or potentially move into a straight fighter class later on, in order to become a Berzerker as originally intended.
I don't mind if you take the Bladedancer class, but I think Nightflier mentioned it was a custom class only available to the Shadar (?). I'll wait for him to make the call on that though.
One interesting angle to consider would be for Taemon'dow to request Anwyn to teach him the blade dancing style, perhaps after he sees her fighting for the first time. I think it would be a good RPing opportunity here.
I had considered that as well, and it does seem like it might fit into the story quite well. We shall see.
In regards to the class, if it is restricted, that's just fine. I have the modified rules from the last campaign where the class is detailed and at that point it looked like just a general class.
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Bonus feat is (loosely) tied to the background, so you get only 1 (one) bonus feat. Although, as the old players will attest, I frequently give feats as rewards.
To answer your questions,
Lantes, I agree that 1 minute/level duration is quite limited for a lycan. On the other hand, 1 hour/level may be too much for hybrid form, although I suspect that in-game there is no substantial difference, since you will not be fighting for hours. I think that 1 hour/level for animal form and 1 minute/level for hybrid form is decent compromise. I'll probably add a set of feats for you that will allow you to increase the amount of time spent in hybrid form and perhaps gain additional abilities.
Taemon'dow,
Bladedancer is not restricted to Shadar, except by background. What I want to say is, if you spent some time in the Shadowlands, it could be available to you at 1st level. Or you can train under Anwyn.
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@All
During next week, I'll compile first expansion of the rules, containing rules for Morgral, Varyag and Shadar races, Lycanthrope and Bladedancer classes, as well as feats pertaining to races and classes mentioned above. If any of you have any suggestions for what to include, please post it.
I am having family lunch this afternoon, so the first post will be up sometime around nine o'clock PM my time.
I just want to inform everyone I be away from 16th to 24th October. I thought I would have internet access, but seems that is not possible.
I am now leaning to taking Arcane Bond, what you guys think: familiar or object?
Anything nice for Plumekith would be nice too.