Limits of Player Responsibility towards other Players


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Sovereign Court

1. What class is your primary character?

I play a lot of Rogue class characters

2. What duties do you consider your responsibility within the group?

Rogue infiltrator spotting + removing traps
Spotting weak npc's (via deathwatch) and eliminating them.

3. What gold-based resources are you willing to expend for other characters in the group without the possibility of repayment?

Main Rogue CG will spend gold for Res, on contributing characters.

4. What do you expect other members of your PFS session to do to support you?

I dont expect it.

5. Do you expect them to expend gold-based resources on your behalf?

No

6. Do you expect them to risk their character's lives on your behalf? If so, do you take this into consideration before you get yourself into dangerous situations?

Expectations will never work out well. Expect nothing and anything above that is good fortune

Sovereign Court

I can say when playing my LN Asmodean cleric holy vindicator there was a fighter demanding my gold for his personal use (at level 7-11) because he refused to buy healing wands. When I declined, I received a well now Im not going to protect you.

My response, My AC is 15+ yours, I do more damage, I dont need outside healing. Who is protecting whom?....and while he was booking out on a fear condition (which I saved) oh protector do come save me..why are you running away???

Grand Lodge

1. What class is your primary character?
I switch between my Tetori Monk and my Alchemist/Fighter as my main characters presently. I'll answer the questions below for both of them.

2. What duties do you consider your responsibility within the group?
Tetori: Rapid response, I use my mobility and grappling to quickly limit the options of enemies, denying them positioning, threatening squares that allies need to move through, or bum-rushing the vulnerable members of the party.

Alchemist: Area denial and Damage, I use reach tactics to make it painful for enemies to go after any member of the group.

3. What gold-based resources are you willing to expend for other characters in the group without the possibility of repayment?
Both: I have my own set of wands for casters to use on me, and try to cover several niche equipment groups that I'll dole out to party members who can make better use of them.

4. What do you expect other members of your PFS session to do to support you?
Both: using the equipment I provide to keep me going at 100%, using their resources to limit enemy potential to make full attacks against either myself or other party members.

5. Do you expect them to expend gold-based resources on your behalf?
If it's a resource I haven't been able to bring because of gold/carry capacity/didn't realize how useful it would be, then yes, because goodness knows for all the times I've remembered to bring rope and a light source, somebody can toss an alchemist fire at the swarm on their turn.

6. Do you expect them to risk their character's lives on your behalf? If so, do you take this into consideration before you get yourself into dangerous situations?

Not really. There's been two occasions where I've expressed that I would be okay if they left my character, both cases in which it would have meant not getting that character raised later due to short funds. However the matter of trying to complete the scenario resulted in them incidentally saving my character.

Grand Lodge 4/5

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1. What class is your primary character?
I play Druids. Right now I have a Blight Druid 10/Monk 1 getting ready for Eyes of Ten Part Deux

2. What duties do you consider your responsibility within the group?

I try to be flexible. He is built to be a Summoner/Tank. He can whirlwind and juggle multiple hill giants or stone golems, summon and buff an ankylosaur forcing enemies to make DC 31 fort saves or be stunned, drop Explosions of Rot or choose a ton of buffs spells for the monk that joined the party. Basically fill in whatever role will do the best for the party.

3. What gold-based resources are you willing to expend for other characters in the group without the possibility of repayment?

I am more than willing to drop any and all wand charges I have on others. If someone dies I will chip in though if you really screwed up and deserved the death I might not pay as much as if you took one for the team.

4. What do you expect other members of your PFS session to do to support you?

Play there role. Build their characters to accomplish that role. Don't run off and try to do things on their own that get them killed or bring down half the dungeon on top of us. I remember in one scenario the rogue running off on his own to go explore after we suggested sticking together. When he ran by himself into a room and got owned by the monsters inside I chose not to help him at all.

5. Do you expect them to expend gold-based resources on your behalf?

I never expect it. The one time my character died no one offered since I could cover it myself. I was a annoyed but I can imagine at a convention there is little repercussion from such an act.

6. Do you expect them to risk their character's lives on your behalf? If so, do you take this into consideration before you get yourself into dangerous situations?

If I am fulfilling my role and something goes wrong yes I expect support, but not suicidally so. I would hope that just as I have done in the past, people will move to defend and aid a fallen comrade but understand if the situation is beyond the group's capability.

Sczarni 5/5 * Venture-Lieutenant, Washington—Pullman

1. What class is your primary character?
Signifier Ahtuz, Necromancer... I stay out of Absolom to avoid the endless discussions about who has the title of 'Most Powerful Mage in *ALL* of Absalom'.

2. What duties do you consider your responsibility within the group? Informing the party on things they should already know. Snuffing out the life force of enemies if things aren't working out for the rest of the party.

3. What gold-based resources are you willing to expend for other characters in the group without the possibility of repayment?
It is just gold. Whatever I can do to help.

4. What do you expect other members of your PFS session to do to support you?
To stand between me and the beasts.

5. Do you expect them to expend gold-based resources on your behalf?
I expect them to contribute the same effort I do.

6. Do you expect them to risk their character's lives on your behalf? If so, do you take this into consideration before you get yourself into dangerous situations?
Yes, but I don't let my character get into dangerous situations. He's smart enough to avoid them.

The Exchange 5/5

1. What class is your primary character?
wow.... please define "primary".
I have over 20 PCs. I consider all of them equally when I sit at a table with friends. Which one I play depends on what the party needs.

2. What duties do you consider your responsibility within the group?
Whatever the group doesn't have. Often this is skills, or traps, or "face" - less often it is combat abilities. Every now and again it's "Comic Relief"...

3. What gold-based resources are you willing to expend for other characters in the group without the possibility of repayment?
Depends on the player and the circumstances. But ranges from nothing to everything my PC has.

4. What do you expect other members of your PFS session to do to support you?
Define "expect". What would I like? or what have I encountered?

5. Do you expect them to expend gold-based resources on your behalf?
again, define "expect"

6. Do you expect them to risk their character's lives on your behalf?
see #4 & #5 above


kjkjkj1 wrote:


Questions.

1. What class is your primary character?

2. What duties do you consider your responsibility within the group?

3. What gold-based resources are you willing to expend for other characters in the group without the possibility of repayment?

4. What do you expect other members of your PFS session to do to support you?

5. Do you expect them to expend gold-based resources on your behalf?

6. Do you expect them to risk their character's lives on your behalf? If so, do you take this into consideration before you get yourself into dangerous situations?

1. I have a lot of characters, but I've been playing a lot of my cleric 9 and oracle 5 lately.

2. Generally, to contribute. To know what my character does and how that works. To know how I can work with others.

3. I'll use wand charges, use scrolls more or less as needed. I also generally contribute gold toward smaller expenses like bribes or disguise kits.

4. I expect that you've brought your own healing, even if you cant use it, you can at least buy it. But more importantly, they should know their job, and get to it. I expect them to have the tools they need at their level (see Painlord's post above). I also expect them to build a character without glaring weaknesses, but I don't always get that.

5. Yes, within reason. Gold is the resource we have the most of, so use it. If you spend PA on equipment, you'll be totally fine with resources.

6. Depends. Was I being stupid? Then no. Will it just give us two people in danger? Then also no. But otherwise, a hand would be awfully nice from time to time.

Example: My support cleric got jumped by something invisible, and was hurt badly, presumably still next to it. I expected the groups fighter to turn around and help. I pulled my mace (a rare event) and of course missed, but let him know which square to attack.

He turned around and helped me, and that saved my character's life.

6b. Keep in mind, sometimes you play up, sometimes down. If you're the highest level character at the table, I expect you to act like it, and deal with the worst of the adventure. If you're playing up, your first job is to not make things worse. If you change the situation from 'defeat the enemy' to 'defeat the enemy and save the new guy from dying', well, you're not helping.

So, do what you can, but try to be thoughtful about it.

3/5

1. What class is your primary character?

I have 30 ish characters, but of them my recent mains are an Alchemist, a Dragon Disciple, an Occultist Arcanist, and a Core Druid

2. What duties do you consider your responsibility within the group?

My responsibility, regardless of character, is to support the group's attempt at completing the mission with any and all resources and skills at my disposal. If I can heal, I do. Similarly, if I can provide niche skills or abilities, I do.

3. What gold-based resources are you willing to expend for other characters in the group without the possibility of repayment?

I don't think about it much. If it's a thing the character needs to survive, I provide it if I can. PFS includes a consumables slush fund in its gold payout per scenario, so I should skew toward WBL or higher regardless of consumable expenditure. That said, resurrections are more scrutinized: if you died because of random or because the scenario was seriously stacked against you or because you screwed up and got burnt for it, I'm generally willing to contribute to a res unless I'm running super tight on my budget. If you died due to willful stupidity despite warnings and recommendations... less so.

4. What do you expect other members of your PFS session to do to support you?

Anything in their power, increasingly at higher levels. No less than I ask of myself.

5. Do you expect them to expend gold-based resources on your behalf?

If need be.

6. Do you expect them to risk their character's lives on your behalf? If so, do you take this into consideration before you get yourself into dangerous situations?

Yes and yes. Pathfinding is a dangerous business, yo. I don't expect them to provoke an OA on 1 hp to provide a buff, but if I'm one round from dying and the activation of a cure wand would save my rear, I really hope they'd step in to save me if their action economy would allow it. I usually make my characters worth saving :)

The point of the game is to have fun, and it's really hard to have fun if you're dead, particularly in the first half of a scenario (where you can't really leave til you get a chronicle but can't continue to play cause you're a corpse.) Therefore, safety is priority one. Character wealth accrual, while tangentially contributing to priority one, is ultimately of far less importance.

4/5

Nefreet wrote:
I don't think the 5 year thread necro was warranted.

Blame Paizo's web people. About one in every four or five times that I log on, it randomly and without cause puts all the posts in "Oldest First" order. Didn't see the date on this one.

Sczarni 5/5 5/55/5 ***

Game Master wrote:
Nefreet wrote:
I don't think the 5 year thread necro was warranted.
Blame Paizo's web people. About one in every four or five times that I log on, it randomly and without cause puts all the posts in "Oldest First" order. Didn't see the date on this one.

Luckily it's taken off in a different direction than previous threads.

My hope in humanity is slightly restored.

Liberty's Edge 1/5

1. What class is your primary character?
Played the all.

2. What duties do you consider your responsibility within the group?
To play my roll, support others, and complete the missions.
Note: I do not feel the need to suicide to protect others from there stupidity, but I will do what I can to prevent party member death.

But as a Cleric I will battle cast spells of healing to save characters. Channel if possible.

3. What gold-based resources are you willing to expend for other characters in the group without the possibility of repayment?
Don't have much in the way of gold purchased disposable items. But I will use stuff if it helps us all out and will accomplish the mission.

Note. I use Prestige to buy a lot of Disposable Resources. I will use Wand Charges mostly out of combat. But I do expect others at the table to spend 2 Prestige Points for thier own Wand of Cure Light. Even if they can't cast it. It is only fair.

4. What do you expect other members of your PFS session to do to support you?
The same.

5. Do you expect them to expend gold-based resources on your behalf?
Well if any of us are grappled by a big bad. I would use a scroll of Freedom of Movement. I would like to think they would as well.

6. Do you expect them to risk their character's lives on your behalf? If so, do you take this into consideration before you get yourself into dangerous situations?

I expect the group to help me out, but I protect myself at all times and don't do stupid suicidel things, but there are some foes that can if they really concentrate on one character can really be a threat to life.

Scarab Sages 5/5

kjkjkj1 wrote:

Questions.

1. What class is your primary character?

2. What duties do you consider your responsibility within the group?

3. What gold-based resources are you willing to expend for other characters in the group without the possibility of repayment?

4. What do you expect other members of your PFS session to do to support you?

5. Do you expect them to expend gold-based resources on your behalf?

6. Do you expect them to risk their character's lives on your behalf? If so, do you take this into consideration before you get yourself into dangerous situations?

1. primary character? what is that? I haven't played my 15th level character in more than a year, more like 18 months. So that can't be primary - I guess I don't have a primary - I play which of my characters that best suits the party. In a way I sacrifice some advancement and maybe actions to advance the party. I am trying to get my spell warrior out of 6th level for the last several months - too many 1-5 or 7-11 offered.

2. since I couldn't pick a primary I probably skip this, but my responsibility is to not do silly things that get othe characters seriously inconvenienced.

3. This really depends on the nature of the group. If this is at a Con and I might never see the others again - perhaps not so much than a few charges of a wand or my share of the raise dead. But if I might see them again, or will see them again - I for example have given another my remove blindness potion that is standard for 6+ characters of mine. That is 750gp I'll never see again.

4. not do silly things that get my character seriously inconvenienced - and if my character got temporarily dead because of their actions, I expect them to help with the raise dead or restorations. Otherwise I note their non-action, and later meetings means I do nothing or not much for them.

5. depends - see above - but if I have expended gold resources on them, I don't want to hear they refuse to do in return, or any resources could be withheld.

6. In theory every adventure is a risk to life _ i expect them not to do silly things and they should expect that I don't either. (opening random doors in a fight to do something other than fighting, goes into the silly things categories - not letting the trapspotter rogue check things out before you just go someplace.

Sczarni 5/5 * Venture-Lieutenant, Washington—Pullman

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Nefreet wrote:


My hope in humanity is slightly restored.

Quick kill it with fire!

Liberty's Edge 4/5

kjkjkj1 wrote:

1. What class is your primary character?

2. What duties do you consider your responsibility within the group?
3. What gold-based resources are you willing to expend for other characters in the group without the possibility of repayment?
4. What do you expect other members of your PFS session to do to support you?
5. Do you expect them to expend gold-based resources on your behalf?
6. Do you expect them to risk their character's lives on your behalf? If so, do you take this into consideration before you get yourself into dangerous situations?

1. I am called barbarian, because I use my anger as a weapon. And I use my dorn dergar as a weapon. And I use my fist as a weapon. And I use book as a weapon. All is weapon.

2. I go first. I get hit. I hit back.

3. I have stick that make you feel good fast, and I have stick that make you feel good slow. You can use both if you need. I have potion that make you feel really good fast, but that's for you to use on me. I have gloves that I give to you that make me not dead, but you can use them on someone else if they die first.

4. Lots of people are better at things than me. Just do the things you're good at, and don't try to do the things you're bad at (unless your bad is still the best in the group).

5. I expect them to cooperate. If I get hurt keeping you from getting hurt, and you don't want to help me get not hurt, then maybe next time I help someone more nice instead.

6. Pathfindering is dangerous situation. We true Shadow Lodge will not leave anyone behind if we can stop it. We do everything we can for our brother Pathfinderers, even if they wouldn't do it for us. The Ten don't care if we live, as long as we succeed. The Venture Captain doesn't have a clue most of the time how dangerous it will be. No one is going to watch out for us, except us.

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