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Having followed the AP line from the beginning, I have to ask, why hasn't Norgorber gotten his own profile article? Following through the APs, each one has certain deities that make sense and get their articles. But the one glaring opportunity for Norgorber was in AP #2, The Skinsaw Murders. But instead of Norgorber getting his, Desna got the article. I understand it was the first deity article and the deity/Ap relationship wasnt developed yet, but still it was a logical fit.
Secondly, I havent seen a terrible lot of extra info thrown out about him in a variety of the other products pushed. It almost seems like he's fading into the background (and yes, that is his thing), but its gettin to the point where it seems that he may disappear altogether. With the red mantis taking on a bigger role, it seems that he is being sidelined by Achaekek. Someone please tell me this isn't so as Norgorber is one of the most interesting of the Ascended and i definitely would love to see some more on him.
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Having followed the AP line from the beginning, I have to ask, why hasn't Norgorber gotten his own profile article? Following through the APs, each one has certain deities that make sense and get their articles. But the one glaring opportunity for Norgorber was in AP #2, The Skinsaw Murders. But instead of Norgorber getting his, Desna got the article. I understand it was the first deity article and the deity/Ap relationship wasnt developed yet, but still it was a logical fit.
Secondly, I havent seen a terrible lot of extra info thrown out about him in a variety of the other products pushed. It almost seems like he's fading into the background (and yes, that is his thing), but its gettin to the point where it seems that he may disappear altogether. With the red mantis taking on a bigger role, it seems that he is being sidelined by Achaekek. Someone please tell me this isn't so as Norgorber is one of the most interesting of the Ascended and i definitely would love to see some more on him.
We only do 4 deity articles a year, which means, with our 20 core deities, we need five years to do them all. We don't want to do these more than 4 a year for various reasons. As a result, ONE of the deities has to be last.
Norgorber was a huge part of Pathfinder #2, as you mention, but we went with Desna as our first topic because we wanted to lead with a more PC-friendly deity and becasue Desna captures the feel and theme of Varisia a lot better than Norgorber. And there's the fact that the very first event in the AP was a holy ceremony of Desna's as well.
I do know when and where all of the remaining deity articles will appear, and Norgorber, as it works out, may well be the last one. This does mean, of course, that there's a big role for Norgorber in an upcoming Adventure Path. He's one of the deities from my homebrew world, so there's a lot of information waiting to come out for him into the public. It's just not yet the right time.
He gets no love. He was picked on as a baby god by the other baby gods. they called him "Norbooger" and "Gooberber".
Not to mention "Hamburglar", the god of robble-robblery.
Only Norgorber knows where his love is kept. Anyone else who has looked for it mysteriously disappeared...
I was given to understand that it is part of what powers the "Harkoden" epic spell. Of course I can't tell you anymore than that for the current time.
Also: Everything I've said here is a lie.
It's tangential, but Rule of Fear will have lots of details on Norgorber's Ustalavic cult of secret hording assassins, the Anaphexia.
Cool.
[threadjack] By the way... once all the 20 core deities are covered, what happens to the "Religion" support information/article in the APs? Do we get to see the "non-core" or "lesser known" deities with similar treatment? Or (gasp/shriek) do those support pieces go away? (Please, please, don't let it be that... let it be the former). [/end threadjack]
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Cool.
[threadjack] By the way... once all the 20 core deities are covered, what happens to the "Religion" support information/article in the APs? Do we get to see the "non-core" or "lesser known" deities with similar treatment? Or (gasp/shriek) do those support pieces go away? (Please, please, don't let it be that... let it be the former). [/end threadjack]
Dean
Note that we have FAR more deities than the core 20. We aren't worried about running out of gods and goddesses and empyreal lords and archdevils and horsemen of the apocalypse and the eldest of the First World or elemental lords or demon lords or so on and so on for some time to come.
James,
Thank you, this is what I had hoped for. (That is to say, that there would be plenty of "beings of higher power" that the religion supplement article/materials wouldn't 'disappear' once the 20 core deities were covered).
Thanks again.
Dean
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Note that we have FAR more deities than the core 20. We aren't worried about running out of gods and goddesses and empyreal lords and archdevils and horsemen of the apocalypse and the eldest of the First World or elemental lords or demon lords or so on and so on for some time to come.
Ooh, tantalizing new bits!
Brigh and Sivanah are on my short list of 'lesser' gods I wouldn't mind seeing more of.
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Note that we have FAR more deities than the core 20. We aren't worried about running out of gods and goddesses and empyreal lords and archdevils and horsemen of the apocalypse and the eldest of the First World or elemental lords or demon lords or so on and so on for some time to come.Ooh, tantalizing new bits!
Brigh and Sivanah are on my short list of 'lesser' gods I wouldn't mind seeing more of.
Ditto, but add Milani in for mine.
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seriously... with a name like Norgorber does anyone really HAVE to ask where's the love?
Hopefully when his turn comes the article will say that all this time the name was misspelled and his name is actually HDS&#(*^@#GHDSKJHD (dang it Norgorber must be using a spell to keep his real name secret!!!!!!!!)
Me no like robble-robblery man...
seriously... with a name like Norgorber does anyone really HAVE to ask where's the love?
This kind of comment gets made a lot by people who've never norgorbed. That's reasonable, since it's easy to describe norgorbing in a way that makes it sound pretty unappealing and even a bit gross. While some people don't enjoy it, most people who've actually tried norgorbing find the experience extremely enjoyable and can't wait to norgorb again.
Of course there is a social stigma attached to norgorbing, so few practitioners are willing to openly proclaim their enjoyment of the activity. Having a deity who publicly and proudly names himself a norgorber is a giant step in increasing acceptance of norgorbers everywhere.
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Speaking of names, one my absolute favorite things about Norgorber is that he's got four different aspects with four different names. Some may know him as the Reaper of Reputation, while others pay their homage to Father Skinsaw. Thieves know him as the Gray Master and poisoners and assassins call out to Blackfingers for guidance.
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Speaking of names, one my absolute favorite things about Norgorber is that he's got four different aspects with four different names. Some may know him as the Reaper of Reputation, while others pay their homage to Father Skinsaw. Thieves know him as the Gray Master and poisoners and assassins call out to Blackfingers for guidance.
yeah, the other names are great. But when the clerics get together for their cleric games, they just laugh at Norgorber (course SaranWrap gets a chuckle or two as well- I think she is the kinky goddess) >;-)
I think Norgorber is still in clinical trials and hasn't yet been approved by the FDA.
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I think Norgorber is still in clinical trials and hasn't yet been approved by the FDA.
If you experience nausea, sweating, blurry vision or a rising urge to stab anyone who disagrees with you, stop taking Norgorber immediately. If your blood-drenched murder-spree lasts four hours or more, contact your doctor, as this could be a sign of a rare, but serious, side-effect...
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Who's this Norborger guy again?
I have to admit, he is the one that slips off my radar the most. When I think sneaky assassin god, I think Achaecek. Hell, Kalavei has more of my attention and I know nothing about her except she has a cult in Vudra and her symbol is freaky-cool.
The thing that fixed Norgorber in my mind is when his cultists show up in Prince of Wolves.
You know when the heroes spend months battling some hideous evil and stagger out of the dungeon with about one hit point left, grasping some awesome artefact and picturing a comfy bed and a pot of stew.
That's when Norgorber's worshippers show up.