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Does anyone know anything about Iggwilv's parents?
I'm concerned for Iuz. The poor little Cambion has so much going against him already. His dad is Graz'zt and his paternal grandma is probably Pale Night. Which means his paternal grandpa was a pretty vile Fiend as well. It's a heckuva family tree.
Then there's Iggwilv.
But who were her parents?
I believe the witch Baba Yaga was her mother, but whether or not she birthed her or just adopted her, i do not recall.
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Baba Yaga actually sounds like it makes sense. In fact, I think I could House-Rule it even if any published text contradicts it, either as birth or adopted mother.
Nonetheless, I am hoping to find published text regarding Iggwilv's parents. Do you know where your memory may be coming from?
I've checked S4: "Tsojcanth" and there's nothing there. Also ToEE and Return to ToEE. I read through the Background info in Expedition to Castle Greyhawk by Mona & Jacobs and even took a peek at Dragon 359 where "all" the D&D mysteries were (LOL) "revealed." I browsed through my Dragon "Demonomicons of Iggwilv" and though I'm missing 1 or 2, I'm pretty sure none have Iggwilv's parentage.
That just about covers my resources except for the Boards here where just about all the other Grognards know more GH than I. I did, however, think of another source that I'll check tonight if I have time -- the Nic Logue adventure that WotC put out online for free after they killed the mags yet before they killed the game; it's an adventure about Drelzna -- maybe Iggwilv gets a couple paragraphs.
Oh, and since you mentioned Baba Yaga (THANKS!!) I'll go ahead and check Dragon 84? -- the one with Moore's adventure, "Baba Yaga," just in case. I don't have the 2E adventure: S5, "Baba Yaga" by Smedman to check there, unfortunately.
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If Baba Yaga IS Iggwilv's mother, that is awesome. Think about Iuz: Iggwilv and Baba Yaga on one side of the family tree, Graz'zt and Pale Night on the other. The only thing cooler would be if he were a vampire chick. Oh wait, Drelzna. . . .
Talk about sibling rivalry.
Baba Yaga actually sounds like it makes sense. In fact, I think I could House-Rule it even if any published text contradicts it, either as birth or adopted mother.
Nonetheless, I am hoping to find published text regarding Iggwilv's parents. Do you know where your memory may be coming from?
I've checked S4: "Tsojcanth" and there's nothing there. Also ToEE and Return to ToEE. I read through the Background info in Expedition to Castle Greyhawk by Mona & Jacobs and even took a peek at Dragon 359 where "all" the D&D mysteries were (LOL) "revealed." I browsed through my Dragon "Demonomicons of Iggwilv" and though I'm missing 1 or 2, I'm pretty sure none have Iggwilv's parentage.
That just about covers my resources except for the Boards here where just about all the other Grognards know more GH than I. I did, however, think of another source that I'll check tonight if I have time -- the Nic Logue adventure that WotC put out online for free after they killed the mags yet before they killed the game; it's an adventure about Drelzna -- maybe Iggwilv gets a couple paragraphs.
Oh, and since you mentioned Baba Yaga (THANKS!!) I'll go ahead and check Dragon 84? -- the one with Moore's adventure, "Baba Yaga," just in case. I don't have the 2E adventure: S5, "Baba Yaga" by Smedman to check there, unfortunately.
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If Baba Yaga IS Iggwilv's mother, that is awesome. Think about Iuz: Iggwilv and Baba Yaga on one side of the family tree, Graz'zt and Pale Night on the other. The only thing cooler would be if he were a vampire chick. Oh wait, Drelzna. . . .
Talk about sibling rivalry.
I'm fairly certain that Tasha (she of the hideous laughter) is Iggwilv and it was implied that she was indeed the daughter of Baba Yaga. (I don't recall where if that's official, though, but that's how I've always run it.)
Which makes integrating her into Golarion all the easier. ^_^
I'm not sure her father's ever been revealed, though.
"But it will be on today's Maury Povich Show!"
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I've checked S4: "Tsojcanth" and there's nothing there. Also ToEE and Return to ToEE. I read through the Background info in Expedition to Castle Greyhawk by Mona & Jacobs and even took a peek at Dragon 359 where "all" the D&D mysteries were (LOL) "revealed." I browsed through my Dragon "Demonomicons of Iggwilv" and though I'm missing 1 or 2, I'm pretty sure none have Iggwilv's parentage.
I have read somewhere where the ‘official’ references or hints to Iggwilv being Tasha and Baba Yaga being her mother are found. I could have sworn it was the Dragon 359 article you mentioned, but maybe not (don’t have it handy to check). Maybe it was in a post here on the Paizo boards that I read it?
It might have been mentioned in Dungeon 149 but as far as I can remember Natasha was adopted by Baba Yaga.Lilith of course is perfectly placed to go annoy Mr Jacobs about this and he is the expert on the subject after all.
I feel special for being the first to have gotten it.
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Thaks guys!
Iuz has a family tree that just kicks butt.
White Knife wins. (But that Avatar still belongs to James Keegan -- I'll always remember him that way.)
When I browsed Dragon 359 for the Tasha/ Iggwilv thing I didn't see it say Tasha's mom was Baba Yaga. Of course I remembered Tasha = Iggwilv, that was the one bit of awesomeness from that article.
And I completely forgot about the adventure in the end of STAP -- but that's forgivable because I've avoided STAP for years now, still hoping one day to find someone who will DM it for me (and thus I've been avoiding spoilers). . . . I remember when it came out, though, and I just HAD to look at the stat blocks for the Demon BBEGs (Charon & Iggwilv, etc.) -- I asked on the Boards here whether looking at (just) the stat blocks would ruin the fun for me -- I think the Lords of the Boards here told me not to look; I looked anyway.
Theres a wikipedia article that pulls everything on Iggwilv together in one place with references.
It can be a very good resource for stuff like gaming and comics
Here is the original article on Graz'zt by JJ, courtesy of the Wayback Machine.
Somewhat related, do remember that Zuggtmoy is Iuz's lover. Can you imagine what do the family reunions look like? :p
Where is this at? Isnt Zuggtmoy close allies with Demogorgon AKA Iuz's Dad's nemesis?
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Well, not that Iuz would care if he were dating Dad's arch-rival's friend (Iuz and Graz'zt ain't close), but any "friendship" between Demogorgon and anyone is tentative at best and especially with another Demon Lord, and more especially with Zuggtmoy, right?
Oh, and I thought of another source to check up on some possible info -- I'll check when I get home this afternoon -- Wolfgang Baur's Expedition to the Demonweb Pits has an introductory "conversation between Graz'zt, Lolth and (maybe) a few other Abyssal Powers.
I'm pretty sure that Zuggtmoy is one of big D's closest allies, at least according to her Demonomicon entry and the Savage Tiding article on recruiting allies in STAP, both in Dragon Magazine.
What I wasnt sure of was the Old One's relationship with daddy
If I'm not mistaken ,it was mentioned back in Zuggtmoy's Demonomicon article. I'm sure it was mentioned in other places (not sure if it was in ToEE)but can't remember right now.Somewhat related, do remember that Zuggtmoy is Iuz's lover. Can you imagine what do the family reunions look like? :pWhere is this at? Isnt Zuggtmoy close allies with Demogorgon AKA Iuz's Dad's nemesis?
The Demonomicon article only mentions the alliance with demogorgon. might be in ToEE as I havent read that.