And just to be thorough, the 3.5 PHB had a few other prices for livestock:
2 cp: one chicken
1 gp: one goat
2 gp: one sheep
3 gp: one pig
10 gp: one cow
15 gp: one ox
And just to be thorough, the 3.5 PHB had a few other prices for livestock:
2 cp: one chicken
1 gp: one goat
2 gp: one sheep
3 gp: one pig
10 gp: one cow
15 gp: one ox
Which is also on pg. 140 of the Core Rulebook.
10gp for a cow seems like a lot, especially when you consider a D&D peasant family might not see that much in a year. Wow. :)
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Which is also on pg. 140 of the Core Rulebook.And just to be thorough, the 3.5 PHB had a few other prices for livestock:
2 cp: one chicken
1 gp: one goat
2 gp: one sheep
3 gp: one pig
10 gp: one cow
15 gp: one ox
I've noticed that a lot of player's miss this. Does anyone actually read the Core Rulebook anymore? LOL!
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10gp for a cow seems like a lot, especially when you consider a D&D peasant family might not see that much in a year. Wow. :)
Huh? This may have been the case in previous editions but the certainly isn't so in pathfinder. All NPC's are assumed to have at LEAST 1 level in some class be it commoner, expert or whatever else and the profession and craft skills still work the same way for them. An average "middle class" type character makes about 10gp/month. Poorer folks make do on about 3gp/month.
10gp for a cow seems like a lot, especially when you consider a D&D peasant family might not see that much in a year. Wow. :)
But a cow DOES worth a lot to the D&D peasant family. As a matter of fact, I wouldn't consider all peasant to be able to afford a cow, and those owning a herd of 4 or 5 cows being the rich(er) ones around.
Even nowaday, a good milking cow worth just as much as the income of the average household...
That does seem a lot, and I was going to go with less, but I don't think it's a stretch for a 10th level char, so let's go with that.
Btw, those prices are the same as the ones from Dangerous Denizens, which is what I typically go with. That book has a table with just about every non-dire animal you could want to buy.
10gp for a cow seems like a lot, especially when you consider a D&D peasant family might not see that much in a year. Wow. :)
There's a reason why even in our own world, one of the useful charitable things to do is give a third world family a cow. Even in the U.S. probably a good quality cow costs around $500.
The thing is, a family would save up those 10 gp to buy a good cow, pay a man with a bull to breed with it, produce milk and babies to sell, etc.... you'd get your return on your investment pretty well if you knew what you were doing.
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10gp for a cow seems like a lot, especially when you consider a D&D peasant family might not see that much in a year. Wow. :)There's a reason why even in our own world, one of the useful charitable things to do is give a third world family a cow. Even in the U.S. probably a good quality cow costs around $500.
The thing is, a family would save up those 10 gp to buy a good cow, pay a man with a bull to breed with it, produce milk and babies to sell, etc.... you'd get your return on your investment pretty well if you knew what you were doing.
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Even in the U.S. probably a good quality cow costs around $500.
Over the border in Canada, a good quality (milking) cow is more like $25 000 to $50 000.
Over the border in Canada, a good quality (milking) cow is more like $25 000 to $50 000.Even in the U.S. probably a good quality cow costs around $500.
I admit I looked up the price on the unreliable internetz--if it's many thousand dollars in the U.S. I would not be surprised. Despite having grown up with beef cattle practically in my backyard, I know little about the actual cattle trade beyond what I've read about it. And the price I looked at may have been for, say, a beef steer and not a dairy cow.
I admit I looked up the price on the unreliable internetz--if it's many thousand dollars in the U.S. I would not be surprised. Despite having grown up with beef cattle practically in my backyard, I know little about the actual cattle trade beyond what I've read about it. And the price I looked at may have been for, say, a beef steer and not a dairy cow.Over the border in Canada, a good quality (milking) cow is more like $25 000 to $50 000.Even in the U.S. probably a good quality cow costs around $500.
I know less about beef cattle, but I'm sure that one way or another, you'd be able to get *a cow* of some sort for cheap. I'm sure the 10 gp typical fantasy farmer's cow isn't the equivalent of $50 000 milking cow or a $100 000 progenitor bull...
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I've noticed that a lot of player's miss this. Does anyone actually read the Core Rulebook anymore? LOL!Which is also on pg. 140 of the Core Rulebook.And just to be thorough, the 3.5 PHB had a few other prices for livestock:
2 cp: one chicken
1 gp: one goat
2 gp: one sheep
3 gp: one pig
10 gp: one cow
15 gp: one ox
For the record I looked in the animal section of the equipment chapter. I missed the trade goods section while flipping through the book looking for this answer.
Given that I play at least 6 different systems semi-regularly. Not gonna be able to memorize all of them. ;P
Graywulfe
Live stock .....
So how much for Humans, elves, dwarfs..... males, females, and children ??
Orc'en, kobolds, & goblin minds want to know ?
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Just a few quick points from the local redneck :)
Cow - female bovine that has produced calves and/or provides milk for human consumption.
Heifer - young female bovine that has yet to calve, usually less than 3 years old
Steer - castrated male bovine, steers are raised and fed well to provide meat.
Ox - castrated male bovine not slaughtered for meat, instead is kept for a draft animal
Bull - Big Poppa. Does... various Big Poppa stuff... ;) generally, only the most promising young males are kept as bulls. maybe one in thirty or forty, depending on the lineage of the herd in question.
Of course a lot of this changes from region to region, even county to county.
What's all this mean in game terms? Based on a true breeding/milk cow at 10 gold, I'd say the following.
Cows - 10g Base
Heifer - 5g Young enough to have not been a proven breeder.
Steer - 7g Just gonna be beef
Ox - 20g Can get a lot of work out of an Ox
Bull - 100g upwards to 5000g - This one is gonna vary based on known progeny, lineage and age.
So, there you have a redneck's view of cattle. Hope I've muddied the waters as much as possible.
:)
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Just a few quick points from the local redneck :)
Cow - female bovine that has produced calves and/or provides milk for human consumption.
Heifer - young female bovine that has yet to calve, usually less than 3 years old
Steer - castrated male bovine, steers are raised and fed well to provide meat.
Ox - castrated male bovine not slaughtered for meat, instead is kept for a draft animal
Bull - Big Poppa. Does... various Big Poppa stuff... ;) generally, only the most promising young males are kept as bulls. maybe one in thirty or forty, depending on the lineage of the herd in question.
Of course a lot of this changes from region to region, even county to county.
What's all this mean in game terms? Based on a true breeding/milk cow at 10 gold, I'd say the following.
Cows - 10g Base
Heifer - 5g Young enough to have not been a proven breeder.
Steer - 7g Just gonna be beef
Ox - 20g Can get a lot of work out of an Ox
Bull - 100g upwards to 5000g - This one is gonna vary based on known progeny, lineage and age.So, there you have a redneck's view of cattle. Hope I've muddied the waters as much as possible.
:)
Awesomeness! Thanks for sharing your insight.