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It simply is not worth my effort to get into it when your gonna ignore what I am saying and twist it.
Anytime you want to clarify like I asked you to is fine by me. I can go find the link to me asking you if a full BAB full caster with only cantrips on his list was overpowered too if you want. You refused to admit it was not, after all.
With only cantrips, no its not. I however would never allow it based off it brakes the framework for no reason at all other then "just because" which to me is just not a good enough reason.
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When the framework itself was put in place 'just because'. There you go with the 'it has always been this way, it's tradition!' defense.
The cantrips posts for those that haven't read them. I'm glad we've gotten past that point. Now if only you'd believe a tightly worked spell list would work with full BAB/two-thirds casting. But I guess some dreams never will come true.
yeah that ones a lost cause. I still think cleric and druids should lose BAB or casting progression.
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Well, I already intend to resurrect 2e spheres for clerics, and allow them to spontaneously cast from a small list determined by their chosen domains, as said before. Maybe make them Cha based as well. Druids should have a list of rituals they prepare from, and can gain new ones the same way Wizards learn new spells. Cutting back their wide open selection of the entire spell list should help balance them.
maybe ya can go with druid runes or tattoos or some such. Maybe some where they have a "sacred tree" they must carve new runes on.
