An Unobjective Magus Assessment

[graywulfe]

Cartigan wrote:

graywulfe wrote:

Cartigan wrote:

Except the Concentration mechanic DID change. It changed notably from 3.5 whereas the arbitrary separation between Divine and Arcane casters - and the benefits given to Divine Casters - still exists.

In what way did the Concentration mechanic change between 3.5 and Pathfinder?

I was going to answer this then I realize that this is my own thread and when I made the thread I explained this explicitly when discussing Spell Combat.

My apologies for missing that. I am reading multiple threads over the course of the day and I do not have time to reread the entire thread every time there is a new post or 2. I will have to relook at the PRD as I have apparently been running Concentration wrong since the full rules came out.

Graywulfe

[james maissen]

Decorus wrote:

1 EK have the quicken tax of +4 spell levels
2. Magus can quicken and cast and full attack

So for Example an Eldritch Knight can quicken a haste burning a 7th level spell slot and full attack at the same BaB as the Magus while the Magus can once a day quicken a disintigrate and combat cast the same haste spell and then make a full attack.

Fairly balanced wouldn't you say?

Not really.

The magus has a reduced spell list compared the wizard/sorcerer. He has nothing to compare with the 7th-9th level slots he's missing. When the wizard/sorcerer is only using his higher level slots for quickened spells the magus treads water, and relies upon his other class ability even then.

The magus abilities need work. A good deal of work. They start off useless, and have trouble even in comparison to a weak build.

-James

[Kryzbyn]

Cartigan wrote:

And why, exactly, could you not have full BAB and 6 levels of spells? Because he is an arcane caster? Both the Cleric and Druid get Medium BAB and 9 levels of spells.

This game is still suffering from the arbitrary power division between Divine and Arcane spells created back in the early additions.

+1

Magus either needs Flurry of blows set up with spell combat, or a full BaB, imho.