I've heard those things are awfully loud...
*Chants*
Monorail! Monorail! Monorail!
Well, sir, there's nothing on earth
Like a genuine,
Bona fide,
Electrified,
Six-car
Monorail!
It glides as softly as a cloud.
So from my time on Paizo's Forums, I've learned a few topics to avoid (some of which I had fallen into myself because of weak search-fu)
> "Broken" threads - Any thread that states class/spell/ability/etc is broken, overpowered, or useless.
> Balance threads... which include "broken" threads
> Alignment threads:
> Paladin Code of Conduct
> Paladin of (different alignment)
> Alignment Stupidity - Lawful Stupid, Chaotic Obnoxious
> Animating Undead, is it Evil?
> Evil Clerics and Healing
> Realism threads:
> Fighters surviving humanly impossible falls
> Fighters wielding Giant Weapons
> What is hp really?
> Vancian vs Power Points
> Psionics
You mean, subjects people actually have an opinion about?
Their title are usually pretty evocative of their content. If you don't want to participate, its not like you HAVE to...
[edit] not directed at you Iron Raven
Among the top things that annoy me on these boards, is the "Oh, not another [insert subject] tread!" or even worst, the "I'm well above discussing this but somehow I felt the needed to post that I am superior/more mature/way-more-experienced-than-you-are".
Politely point that there are 3 ongoing threads with the same subject is one thing, spitting on people's opinion is another...
'findel
So from my time on Paizo's Forums, I've learned a few topics to avoid (some of which I had fallen into myself because of weak search-fu)
> "Broken" threads - Any thread that states class/spell/ability/etc is broken, overpowered, or useless.
> Balance threads... which include "broken" threads
> Alignment threads:
> Paladin Code of Conduct
> Paladin of (different alignment)
> Alignment Stupidity - Lawful Stupid, Chaotic Obnoxious
> Animating Undead, is it Evil?
> Evil Clerics and Healing
> Realism threads:
> Fighters surviving humanly impossible falls
> Fighters wielding Giant Weapons
> What is hp really?
> Vancian vs Power Points
> Psionics
You mean, subjects people actually have an opinion about?
Their title are usually pretty evocative of their content. If you don't want to participate, its not like you HAVE to...
[edit] not directed at you Iron Raven
Among the top things that annoy me on these boards, is the "Oh, not another [insert subject] tread!" or even worst, the "I'm well above discussing this but somehow I felt the needed to post that I am superior/more mature/way-more-experienced-than-you-are".
Politely point that there are 3 ongoing threads with the same subject is one thing, spitting on people's opinion is another...
'findel
To this I will add that a smurf is a passive-aggressive troll. It's kinda like a real troll but lacking a ball sack.
You mean, subjects people actually have an opinion about?
Their title are usually pretty evocative of their content. If you don't want to participate, its not like you HAVE to...
[edit] not directed at you Iron Raven
Among the top things that annoy me on these boards, is the "Oh, not another [insert subject] tread!" or even worst, the "I'm well above discussing this but somehow I felt the needed to post that I am superior/more mature/way-more-experienced-than-you-are".
Politely point that there are 3 ongoing threads with the same subject is one thing, spitting on people's opinion is another...
'findel
It would be nice to be able to post an opinion without people lashing out. I'm starting to think people look through the threads for something to argue about. Maybe they have a crappy job and want to feel superior or maybe their parents didn't hug them enough. Whatever the reason, there is no excuse to talk to people in such a way over a game, or at all for that matter.
Maybe some basics of Forum Etiquette are in order.
- Not liking something isn't the same as not understanding something.
- "I would leave the table immediately if "X" happened." This isn't a threat and doesn't really prove your point. It goes to say, if you aren't enjoying the game, then it's not a game and you should leave. No need to be a jerk about it.
- Try to state your opinion without "You're wrong because..." It's one thing if it's a misunderstanding of a rule, it's another if you're trying to prove if Psionic Powers are or aren't Sci-Fi.
- You can't judge a good role player by a forum post. Somebody can completely misunderstand the rules but be a great role player, I've seen this.
- "I've been playing for 90 years so..." This is great for anecdotes (and I love a good story) but doesn't do a lot for function. This is often used as "I've been playing for 90 years so I'm right."
- Please read the post. Don't take things out of context. I had this experience with somebody complaining that a rogue does more than steal. That wasn't even the point of the post and was just a generic example.
- You can disagree without being rude. Sometimes it's best to just agree to disagree. This might be a good place for the Points vs. Slots debate.
- There are always exceptions. To everything. Even to the points listed here.
- It's a fantasy game. Have fun and try to be civil.
It would be nice to be able to post an opinion without people lashing out. I'm starting to think people look through the threads for something to argue about. Maybe they have a crappy job and want to feel superior or maybe their parents didn't hug them enough. Whatever the reason, there is no excuse to talk to people in such a way over a game, or at all for that matter.
I agree completely with you on your general points of etiquette and occasionally we all need to take a quick step back and take a deep breath before hitting the submit post button
However, with that said, when you preface a posting on etiquette by implying that other posters have "crappy jobs" and anger issues or perhaps deep seated childhood attachment disorders, I believe that you loose your message.
As with all communication, posting on a forum is as much a matter of how the message was transmitted as to what is contained in the content of the message itself was. When you start off with what is arguably an inflammatory few sentences, you've already lost the very audience you were attempting to reach.
Instead of inspiring your readers to consider your carefully constructed and reasoned points on web etiquette, you've instead rendered them down to mouth-frothing, troll-baiting, flame-warring posters who are more incensed about your "job and parenting" lead-in sentences than your desire to make the forums a more hospitable place for us all.
Good points are great, but a lot of times it's all about how you present them.
Not insulting people is also good.
-Brooks
I actually love when people post their opinion.
I really hate when they just sit there and pick apart the last sentence that someone else wrote. That's got to be fully half the posts on this forum, maybe more. :(
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I really hate when they just sit there and pick apart the last sentence that someone else wrote. That's got to be fully half the posts on this forum, maybe more. :(
Now that sentence is just pure Hyperbole. If you can't back your statement up with some sort of mathemtical analysis then you're full of fail.
(sorry, couldn't help myself there Evil, it's almost like you begged me to try.)
(sorry, couldn't help myself there Evil, it's almost like you begged me to try.)
On the contrary, I thought that was quite helpful as an illustrative example.
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No it wasn't; he barely said anything at all. Clearly, you are an uneducated baby-eating troglodyte.On the contrary, I thought that was quite helpful as an illustrative example.
(sorry, couldn't help myself there Evil, it's almost like you begged me to try.)
His level of smell has not reached offensive, therefore he cannot be a troglodyte. He only registers a 5 on the sweaty-man-o-meter and a 7 on the too-much-cologne-o-meter.
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His level of smell has not reached offensive, therefore he cannot be a troglodyte. He only registers a 5 on the sweaty-man-o-meter and a 7 on the too-much-cologne-o-meter.No it wasn't; he barely said anything at all. Clearly, you are an uneducated baby-eating troglodyte.On the contrary, I thought that was quite helpful as an illustrative example.
(sorry, couldn't help myself there Evil, it's almost like you begged me to try.)
You obviously don't understand my argument. If you did, you'd agree.
You obviously don't understand my argument.
Obviously, he does.
If you did, you'd agree.
Obviously, he doesn't.
You obviously don't understand my argument.Obviously, he does.
Obviously, he doesn't.
If you did, you'd agree.
just jokes....;)
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So this watermelon farmer keeps finding the remnants of bonfires in his field and several of his watermelons stolen over the course of a week. By the end of the week he's fed up with the whole situation. Bonfires are one thing, but the melons are his livelihood.
No matter how much he patrols the fields at night, nor how many times he lets his dogs loose, he never manages to stop the thefts.
His fields have been ravaged, he only has three watermelons left at this point. Finally, he gets an idea to protect them. He lets them stay in the fields, but he puts up a sign.
Thinking this sufficient to stop the melon thieves, he returns home and goes to bed and sleeps soundly for the first time in a long while. When he gets up in the morning he's proud to see that his sign worked, all three melons are still in the field. Something is wrong though, the sign is facing the wrong way.
When he goes out to check he finds that someone has scrawled a note across the bottom.
Not insulting people is also good.
-Brooks
That wasn't meant to be an insult. I was being facetious in attempt to state that sometimes people have other issues and feel a need to vent and this perhaps isn't the best place for it, but hell, beats a clock tower.
I hope you weren't offended, it wasn't my goal.