This is a spin-off thread...I discovered there were still Trek fans out there...I am NOT a trekkie, trekker, treknik or whatever the anal-retentive fanatics go by nowadays, but I grew up on reruns of the Original (my first adolescent naughty dream was about Uhura) and have seen all of the series since.(although I skipped a few Voyager episode-my least favorite).
My first big question is: Should there be a new series? Now that Abrams has relaunched a movie franchise that even my anti-trek 16 year old will watch, should there be a new series?
I would love an antholgy: Trek Tales if you will.
It could have bits from different eras, including some that could follow TNG or DS9 from the perspective of following the alternate universe of the ST movie.
I would also like to see a relaunch of Enterprise, or perhaps a follow up covering the time between Enterprise and the Abrams movie.
Also one based on the Star Trek: Excalibur novels would be great.
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Everyone get ready to cringe!
I'd like a smallville style Trek. Not so much the 'superman' part I don't need to see Young Kirk, Spock etc. But a core cast of 5-8 Starfleet cadets, various adventures, out on a patrol etc.
I'll go a step further, pick the cast from unknowns, lesser knowns.
Here's my 'top 5'
The Leader - Human (of course) Female. Tries to be by the book, as time goes by, she sees the seat of the pants style works.
The Roguish Second in Command - Non-human, Male Cultural conflict with the leader, understands 'this is the way things are outside my society, but I don't have to like it.'
The Brain - Orion Female. Wants to be known for more than being an Orion female, and is very intelligent. Dresses down, wears glasses, etc. Unlike the standard 'Hollywood Ugly' getups, she admits this is designed to bring her down to normal. As the rest of the charcters accept her talents and skills, she starts to be more comfortable with the Orion female's 'method' of doing things.
The Bruiser - Maybe Human, maybe non human male. The big dumb jock with a heart of gold. If non-human, then maybe CGI so we can get away from the 'forehead aliens'
The Spock/Data/Odo/Doctor. Female?, non-human. The 'wants to be/understand/emulate humanity' character. I'd prefer some kind of (non-Changleling) shapeshifter. This would be the toughest to pull off acting-wise. Also might allow the writers to develop previously 'taboo' trek topics. Imagine a season long plot where the cast is joined by a male human whom the leader falls for, only to have it revealed to be a shape taken by the shapshifter, because 'she' is attracted to the commander?
The big question is when and what reality would the 'new Trek' be set in? TV universe would possibly give a much larger cast of characters for guest appearnaces. Abramsverse would give a much cleaner pallate.
As usual, I like MM's stuff.
However, I'd love a new series, as Enterprise never got a fair shake, at least around where I live.
If they did start a new show it would have to take place before the Abrams movies just to avoid canon clashes.
I would like to see a show about the birth of the Federation and have the focus be more on intrigue and politics and less on shoot-em-ups and alien germs.
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There are LOTS of Star Trek fans!!!
I would love a new series. I also agree that Enterprise never got a fair shake. It suffered from some bad plot and writting around the second season, but by the third and fourth season, it was getting VERY good. If anyone is curious, go back and watch the show on SyFy Network or maybe rent them. I'll bet you'll find the show better than you remember ...
Anyway, I do agree that the new JJ Abrahms Star Trek throws something of a wrench in things. That movie was just SO FREAKIN' GOOD that, to most younger folks, it IS Star Trek. A new series would have to figure out if it existed in the TV time line / reality or in the movie time line / reality ...
Add to that the fact that the same team is writing the next movie as we speak and things get more ... interesting.
In the end, as long as there is good Trek on TV or the movies, I'm happy!
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Here's my 'top 5'.
It might have been easier / quicker to link, rather than write out your details.(Kidding!)
Honestly, I'm a big fan of the movie last summer, and a lesser fan of the idea of a universal reboot, but the trade-off is a clean slate in exchange for solid and deep backstory. All the stories I'd like to tell in Star Trek - Starfleet Academy, Section 31, Starfleet retirees working against the neural parasites from "Conspiracy" - revolve around that backstory.
I am a Trek fan.
I do not want another TV show. Why not?
Because they'll screw it up. DS9 was able to match, perhaps even succeed, the success of TNG. Voyager & Enterprise weren't even close.
The new movie, presented Trek in a way that works very well on the big-screen and was highly entertaining to Trek & non-Trek fans alike.
However, there is (IMO) ZERO chance that the sensibilities that brought a reimagining to the latest movie would be allowed to play out in a TV format. Scripts would be beaten with the dusty PC/preachy-morality stick, the series would HAVE to be slotted into the TV-series continuity, etc., etc. In other words, "Boldly going where no one has gone before" would be yet another rehash.
To keep costs down, a brand new cast of largely unknowns would be cast. Could they be breakout stars? Sure. Odds are long against, though. Would special effects budgets be deep enough? Likely not, as most networks are seeking to exploit the low-budget nature of reality TV.
Give me a series of miniseries that can build off of one another if successful. Give me future movie installments in the reimagined universe. But please, don't give me a half-assed attempt to recapture the success of TNG.
Now if a studio steps up and has the stones to commit the resources necessary to bring quality on par with the latest movie to the small screen, then I am 100% in favor of it.
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I am a Trek fan.
I do not want another TV show. Why not?
Because they'll screw it up. DS9 was able to match, perhaps even succeed, the success of TNG. Voyager & Enterprise weren't even close.
The new movie, presented Trek in a way that works very well on the big-screen and was highly entertaining to Trek & non-Trek fans alike.
However, there is (IMO) ZERO chance that the sensibilities that brought a reimagining to the latest movie would be allowed to play out in a TV format. Scripts would be beaten with the dusty PC/preachy-morality stick, the series would HAVE to be slotted into the TV-series continuity, etc., etc. In other words, "Boldly going where no one has gone before" would be yet another rehash.
To keep costs down, a brand new cast of largely unknowns would be cast. Could they be breakout stars? Sure. Odds are long against, though. Would special effects budgets be deep enough? Likely not, as most networks are seeking to exploit the low-budget nature of reality TV.
Give me a series of miniseries that can build off of one another if successful. Give me future movie installments in the reimagined universe. But please, don't give me a half-assed attempt to recapture the success of TNG.
Now if a studio steps up and has the stones to commit the resources necessary to bring quality on par with the latest movie to the small screen, then I am 100% in favor of it.
+1, Couldn't agree more.
+1, Couldn't agree more.I am a Trek fan.
I do not want another TV show. Why not?
Because they'll screw it up. DS9 was able to match, perhaps even succeed, the success of TNG. Voyager & Enterprise weren't even close.
The new movie, presented Trek in a way that works very well on the big-screen and was highly entertaining to Trek & non-Trek fans alike.
However, there is (IMO) ZERO chance that the sensibilities that brought a reimagining to the latest movie would be allowed to play out in a TV format. Scripts would be beaten with the dusty PC/preachy-morality stick, the series would HAVE to be slotted into the TV-series continuity, etc., etc. In other words, "Boldly going where no one has gone before" would be yet another rehash.
To keep costs down, a brand new cast of largely unknowns would be cast. Could they be breakout stars? Sure. Odds are long against, though. Would special effects budgets be deep enough? Likely not, as most networks are seeking to exploit the low-budget nature of reality TV.
Give me a series of miniseries that can build off of one another if successful. Give me future movie installments in the reimagined universe. But please, don't give me a half-assed attempt to recapture the success of TNG.
Now if a studio steps up and has the stones to commit the resources necessary to bring quality on par with the latest movie to the small screen, then I am 100% in favor of it.
If Paramount gives a new ST series the budget and creative freedom that Battlestar Galactica had a new show would have a chance.
+1, Couldn't agree more.I am a Trek fan.
I do not want another TV show. Why not?
Because they'll screw it up. DS9 was able to match, perhaps even succeed, the success of TNG. Voyager & Enterprise weren't even close.
The new movie, presented Trek in a way that works very well on the big-screen and was highly entertaining to Trek & non-Trek fans alike.
However, there is (IMO) ZERO chance that the sensibilities that brought a reimagining to the latest movie would be allowed to play out in a TV format. Scripts would be beaten with the dusty PC/preachy-morality stick, the series would HAVE to be slotted into the TV-series continuity, etc., etc. In other words, "Boldly going where no one has gone before" would be yet another rehash.
To keep costs down, a brand new cast of largely unknowns would be cast. Could they be breakout stars? Sure. Odds are long against, though. Would special effects budgets be deep enough? Likely not, as most networks are seeking to exploit the low-budget nature of reality TV.
Give me a series of miniseries that can build off of one another if successful. Give me future movie installments in the reimagined universe. But please, don't give me a half-assed attempt to recapture the success of TNG.
Now if a studio steps up and has the stones to commit the resources necessary to bring quality on par with the latest movie to the small screen, then I am 100% in favor of it.
SILENCE. VOYAGER WAS AWESOME!!!!!
If there ever is a new Trek series I think Jeffrey Combs should be the captain. He's worked so hard in the Trek-verse, in dozens of rolls, he really deserves the promotion.
SILENCE. VOYAGER WAS AWESOME!!!!!
See, you're even delivering your lines like a Voyager cast member. It should be:
SILENCE!!! VOYAGER WAS AWESOME!!! (you see, you have to have exclamation points after "silence" to shock us into shutting up)-- Just a jest in good fun!
...and c'mon the only thing awesome about Voyager was I could point to 7of9 and tell my wife "See Barbi dolls DO accurately reflect the female anatomy. All those women saying otherwise are just jealous they can't wear THAT!"
Come to think of it, her interest in Voyager kinda evaporated after that... :)
I want a show about Klingons.
I've been saying that ever since two months after DS9 came out.
Here's the premise: Klingon "Enterprise". Just Klingons rolling around, getting in adventures, boldly going places and tearing s@#@ the f~%* up. No futuristic morality play blerr. Just klingons, tearing s$*# up.
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I've been saying that ever since two months after DS9 came out.
Here's the premise: Klingon "Enterprise". Just Klingons rolling around, getting in adventures, boldly going places and tearing s!!# the f*&* up. No futuristic morality play blerr. Just klingons, tearing s!!# up.
Can there be a smexy Romulan with them?
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I've been saying that ever since two months after DS9 came out.
Here's the premise: Klingon "Enterprise". Just Klingons rolling around, getting in adventures, boldly going places and tearing s*@! the f&!@ up. No futuristic morality play blerr. Just klingons, tearing s*@! up.
It would beat the heck out of half the reality shows out there...nah, make it 60% at least.
Can there be a smexy Romulan with them?I've been saying that ever since two months after DS9 came out.
Here's the premise: Klingon "Enterprise". Just Klingons rolling around, getting in adventures, boldly going places and tearing s!!# the f*&* up. No futuristic morality play blerr. Just klingons, tearing s!!# up.
Yih...sure. Love interest or whatever.
Human kid, baby, he is the only survivor of a federation vessel that gets its ass handed to it by a klingon bird of prey.
There's a scene in the kid's room; two crazy klingon b++*@es wanna whack the kid, but one klingon lady is fighting them off; she lost her kid and takes the human baby to her bosom (to raise it strong on klingon milk) Tarzan-style....
he ends up being a total badass. They name him Hamlet (coz klingons love that play) and he grows up to be the away team leader of a bird of prey; the Captain hates him, and is always sending him on away team mission impossibles for him to get whacked, but he's a total billy badass (he might be Kirk's offspring(?) dude got around) and he totally owns all the missions, so it's kinda like a Dirty Harry thing going on...
He's got a klingon "dirty dozen" schtick going on.
Can there be a smexy Romulan with them?I've been saying that ever since two months after DS9 came out.
Here's the premise: Klingon "Enterprise". Just Klingons rolling around, getting in adventures, boldly going places and tearing s!!# the f*&* up. No futuristic morality play blerr. Just klingons, tearing s!!# up.
Yih...sure. Love interest or whatever.
Human kid, baby, he is the only survivor of a federation vessel that gets its ass handed to it by a klingon bird of prey.
There's a scene in the kid's room; two crazy klingon b#!@*es wanna whack the kid, but one klingon lady is fighting them off; she lost her kid and takes the human baby to her bosom (to raise it strong on klingon milk) Tarzan-style....
he ends up being a total badass. They name him Hamlet (coz klingons love that play) and he grows up to be the away team leader of a bird of prey; the Captain hates him, and is always sending him on away team mission impossibles for him to get whacked, but he's a total billy badass (he might be Kirk's offspring(?) dude got around) and he totally owns all the missions, so it's kinda like a Dirty Harry thing going on...
He's got a klingon "dirty dozen" schtick going on.
Rocks!
(lol)
gotta be a Mirror/Mirror universe episode, where the Klingons are all peacenik poets.
SILENCE. VOYAGER WAS AWESOME!!!!!See, you're even delivering your lines like a Voyager cast member. It should be:
SILENCE!!! VOYAGER WAS AWESOME!!! (you see, you have to have exclamation points after "silence" to shock us into shutting up)-- Just a jest in good fun!
I do feel Star Trek: Voyager, for all its faults, was better then Star Trek: Enterprise. :(
...and c'mon the only thing awesome about Voyager was I could point to 7of9 and tell my wife "See Barbi dolls DO accurately reflect the female anatomy. All those women saying otherwise are just jealous they can't wear THAT!"
Come to think of it, her interest in Voyager kinda evaporated after that... :)
Of course, you do realize that under her "catsuit" poor Jeri Ryan had to wear all manner of corseting and other "enhancements" to look like "Barbie".
This is a spin-off thread...I discovered there were still Trek fans out there...I am NOT a trekkie, trekker, treknik or whatever the anal-retentive fanatics go by nowadays, but I grew up on reruns of the Original (my first adolescent naughty dream was about Uhura) and have seen all of the series since.(although I skipped a few Voyager episode-my least favorite).
My first big question is: Should there be a new series? Now that Abrams has relaunched a movie franchise that even my anti-trek 16 year old will watch, should there be a new series?
Not yet. The UPN milked the Star Trek "cow" pretty hard.
Letting Star Trek rest a little bit more (at least until one or two more movies get made) might be a good idea.
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Hah! I have always felt that -- done properly -- a little fanservice is a good thing in a show/series. ;D
Star Trek: Redshirt!
Every week focuses on a new redshirt, different ship, different setting, different grisly end...you watch 30 minutes of background, learning a new character only to watch his grisly demise at the end of the episode...except of course...to be continued...then she/he gets to live another week or two.
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Star Trek: Redshirt!
Every week focuses on a new redshirt, different ship, different setting, different grisly end...you watch 30 minutes of background, learning a new character only to watch his grisly demise at the end of the episode...except of course...to be continued...then she/he gets to live another week or two.
Genius. Commence writing.
Actually you could combine Spanky the Leprechaun's Klingon Enterprise with Xaason's Star Trek: Redshirt==first half of the show introduces the redshirt, second half has the Klingons hunting him down and killing him :)
A Kligon show would be cool...one of my favorite things about DS9 was the two or three seasons we really got to see the Empire in action both as an enemy and an ally.
By the way, is it just me or did DS9 get better after the guy who played Sisko shaved his head, and grew a goatee so he looked more like when he played the badass Hawk on Spenser for Hire?...it was the next best thing to having Samuel L Jackson as a captain...
Of course, you do realize that under her "catsuit" poor Jeri Ryan had to wear all manner of corseting and other "enhancements" to look like "Barbie".
Nope. Of course, I'd be happy to help her out of that outfit to see for myself.
... and you know everyone else reading this thread was thinking the same thing.
Star Trek: SLJ
Old Enemy returns...the Snake guys from the old Kirk days...Versus Captain Samuel L. Jackson...Why are there snake on my Ship? Snakes on my Mother Loving SHIP!
Star Trek: Tiberius
Follow the adventures of Tiberius James Kirk. Illegitimate son of James T. Kirk...
Of course, you do realize that under her "catsuit" poor Jeri Ryan had to wear all manner of corseting and other "enhancements" to look like "Barbie".
Nope. Of course, I'd be happy to help her out of that outfit to see for myself.
... and you know everyone else reading this thread was thinking the same thing.
I am sure most fans know that Ryan almost passed out several times in her first episodes because they literally sewed her into her costume...and would that all hot Trek females had such fortitude...Counseler Troi could have counseled me anytime and doubled TNG's ratings in the first season, and a similar costume for TPol and Sato in an anime school girl outfit would have kept Enterprise going for at least another season...Captain Janeway in a catsuit, maybe not (although Mulligrew is a good actress)
But enough space lust,
Who should do a new Trek tv series if they made one?
I imagine a series that follows the era between Enterprise and Kirk that is done by Joss Whedon (as soon as he finishes the Avengers script). Imagine the humor of Firefly/Serenity with the action of a good Trek season...and Nathan Fillon as captain.
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I am sure most fans know that Ryan almost passed out several times in her first episodes because they literally sewed her into her costume...and would that all hot Trek females had such fortitude...Counseler Troi could have counseled me anytime and doubled TNG's ratings in the first season, and a similar costume for TPol and Sato in an anime school girl outfit would have kept Enterprise going for at least another season...Captain Janeway in a catsuit, maybe not (although Mulligrew is a good actress)
Mirror Universe.
Best. Hoshi. Ever.
Seriously, last season of Enterprise was the best. (Well except the last episode) If they'd gotten another season out of it, the plans included first contact with the cloud miners, M'ress's people...
They finally got it right, then cancelled the frakking show.
And you forgot Gates McFadden in the hotness list.
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Oh, here's a convoluted timeline frak for you...
History was changed by First Contact. The only 'unaltered' history we've seen is when the Vulcans land and Zephran Cocheran shoots them. (Mirror universe) So is the Mirror universe the 'real' timeline, and the core universe the altered one? :-)
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Here's my 'top 5'.
It might have been easier / quicker to link, rather than write out your details.(Kidding!)
Honestly, I'm a big fan of the movie last summer, and a lesser fan of the idea of a universal reboot, but the trade-off is a clean slate in exchange for solid and deep backstory. All the stories I'd like to tell in Star Trek - Starfleet Academy, Section 31, Starfleet retirees working against the neural parasites from "Conspiracy" - revolve around that backstory.
Yeah, well I can't link tropes at work. Besides the formula works for a reason.
One thing that bothered me about Enterprise was that they were always right. The Prime directive didn't come about as a good idea out of the blue. Look at human history, we always interfere, 'for their own good' from slavery to famine relief.
Enterprise had the oportunity to show why there's a prime directive. I wanted to see Archer get involved in a civil war, and accidentally wipe out a planet. Or they go to a primitive world in season one, and season four shows the same planet in a holy war based on the 'words of the sky gods'
Heck, Enterprise could have had the beginnings of Section 31.
The episode ends with Archer turning the pirate over to Starfleet, and Archer's left wondering if he was telling the truth or not.
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But enough space lust,
Who should do a new Trek tv series if they made one?
I imagine a series that follows the era between Enterprise and Kirk that is done by Joss Whedon (as soon as he finishes the Avengers script). Imagine the humor of Firefly/Serenity with the action of a good Trek season...and Nathan Fillon as captain.
Believe it or not, 'New Trek' could learn from the later 'Power Rangers' franchise. The last few seasons had actors who had a few AU series under their belts, but were unknowns in the US. Heck, even some of the American actors have gone on to relative success. Emma Lahana, Archie Kao, Matt Austin are three that come to mind. (I'd include Claudia Black, even though she's not a PR alum.) Let the 'weight' of the Trek name carry the series to start (with a few well placed guest stars) and then let the actors carry it on their talents once they get in the swing of things. By using AU/Ca 'unknowns', you get experienced actors cheap and not pigeon holed. The actors benefit from being in a 'top name' series and exposure to American audiences.
Off the top of my head, (using my five man band) I'd put Daniel Cudmore in as the big brusier, and Adelaide Kane as the Orion girl. I thought she had good comedic timing on RPM, and is physical. Olivia Tennet would work as my shapeshifter. As we've seen with Summer Glau, dancers have excellent physical control.
Stick a fork in pre-Abrams Trek it's been done to a turn.
As far as Abrams or post-Abrams Trek, I think the occasional movie is the way to go.
At some point it's time to just let it go. Classic and the Next Generation of Star Trek series reached that some time ago.
After all what new concept is there to explore? You've got the classic warrior, Kirk, the Renaisance Captain, Picard, the Base Soldier/Prophet, Sisko, the Lost Legion, Janeway, and Retro-Captain, Archer.
I will hurl in the general direction of anyone who suggests a Star Trek Academy series.
I was in favor of the Academy series..the comic series a few years back was quite good.
But enough space lust,
Who should do a new Trek tv series if they made one?
I imagine a series that follows the era between Enterprise and Kirk that is done by Joss Whedon (as soon as he finishes the Avengers script). Imagine the humor of Firefly/Serenity with the action of a good Trek season...and Nathan Fillon as captain.
Believe it or not, 'New Trek' could learn from the later 'Power Rangers' franchise. The last few seasons had actors who had a few AU series under their belts, but were unknowns in the US. Heck, even some of the American actors have gone on to relative success. Emma Lahana, Archie Kao, Matt Austin are three that come to mind. (I'd include Claudia Black, even though she's not a PR alum.) Let the 'weight' of the Trek name carry the series to start (with a few well placed guest stars) and then let the actors carry it on their talents once they get in the swing of things. By using AU/Ca 'unknowns', you get experienced actors cheap and not pigeon holed. The actors benefit from being in a 'top name' series and exposure to American audiences.
Off the top of my head, (using my five man band) I'd put Daniel Cudmore in as the big brusier, and Adelaide Kane as the Orion girl. I thought she had good comedic timing on RPM, and is physical. Olivia Tennet would work as my shapeshifter. As we've seen with Summer Glau, dancers have excellent physical control.
[unyielding purist]I don't know which is worse- that Firefly has been mentioned in a Trek thread, or that the unparalleled awfulness of American sentai has been brought up at all.[/unyielding purist]
[regular FhDM hatred of Whedon]Please keep him away from Trek. Far, far, FAR away.[/regular FhDM hatred of Whedon]
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[unyielding purist]I don't know which is worse- that Firefly has been mentioned in a Trek thread, or that the unparalleled awfulness of American sentai has been brought up at all.[/unyielding purist]
[regular FhDM hatred of Whedon]Please keep him away from Trek. Far, far, FAR away.[/regular FhDM hatred of Whedon]
I don't deny that PR had (more than) its share of bad moments. It also had funny moments and injokes. I laughed through PR Ninja Storm, in large part because Grant McFarland is such a ham, and it laughed at itself. "Why can't I enlarge more than one monster at once? Sir, you forgot to buy the memory upgrade on the enlarger."
Hells, the last PR was one of the darkest things I've seen on TV.
The premise: Everyone on earth is dead, except this one city. What killed them? A rogue computer program created by the heroes' scientists. Why was it created? She was a child genius in a lab, and just wanted to go outside. Yes, 6 billion+ dead, because a little girl wanted to go outside.
And it still had its share of jokes. (There's an entire episode poking fun at Sentai/PR tropes, including the eyes on the cars, the morphing explosions (the climax even uses the morphing explosion against the bad guy) and the need to shout out the morphing command.)
[unyielding purist]I don't know which is worse- that Firefly has been mentioned in a Trek thread, or that the unparalleled awfulness of American sentai has been brought up at all.[/unyielding purist]
[regular FhDM hatred of Whedon]Please keep him away from Trek. Far, far, FAR away.[/regular FhDM hatred of Whedon]
I don't deny that PR had (more than) its share of bad moments. It also had funny moments and injokes. I laughed through PR Ninja Storm, in large part because Grant McFarland is such a ham, and it laughed at itself. "Why can't I enlarge more than one monster at once? Sir, you forgot to buy the memory upgrade on the enlarger."
Hells, the last PR was one of the darkest things I've seen on TV.
The premise: Everyone on earth is dead, except this one city. What killed them? A rogue computer program created by the heroes' scientists. Why was it created? She was a child genius in a lab, and just wanted to go outside. Yes, 6 billion+ dead, because a little girl wanted to go outside.
And it still had its share of jokes. (There's an entire episode poking fun at Sentai/PR tropes, including the eyes on the cars, the morphing explosions (the climax even uses the morphing explosion against the bad guy) and the need to shout out the morphing command.)
I am not a sentai otaku, but I think I can speak to some of the hatred I have for american sentai and some of the hatred the sentai purists have for it. In the original work, the tropes are sacred, to be mocked gently, if at all. This extends to the "sister" world of Super-side robots in animation, which I have more experience with/love for. In Americanizations of such works, everything is super-sized, especially the parody aspect, which leaves a bad taste in the mouth.
That said, I must admit that it's come a long, long way from the MMPR days. The seriousness of certain topics and series, including what you mentioned above, has been retained and treated with respect instead of making it a "children's show".
[regular FhDM hatred of Whedon]What?? Why??
Firefly was awesome!
I think this explains it better than I ever could[regular FhDM hatred of Whedon]What?? Why??
Firefly was awesome!
You know ... you are on to something there. I hadn't thought about it that way.
You know ... you are on to something there. I hadn't thought about it that way.I think this explains it better than I ever could[regular FhDM hatred of Whedon]What?? Why??
Firefly was awesome!
"But hardcore Whedonites? They are to Trekkies what the Nation of Islam were to the Civil Rights movement."
This line makes me LOL like I've never LOLed before.
"But hardcore Whedonites? They are to Trekkies what the Nation of Islam were to the Civil Rights movement."You know ... you are on to something there. I hadn't thought about it that way.I think this explains it better than I ever could[regular FhDM hatred of Whedon]What?? Why??
Firefly was awesome!
The problem is that it's true.
I was in favor of the Academy series..the comic series a few years back was quite good.An academy series is something perhaps suitable for the Disney XKids network. The Crusher stories on TNG with his rise and fall at the Academy pretty much milked the story possibilities of the place as much as it's worth.
Military Academies as a rule aren't places where you should have an Invasion of the Week format after all.
I actually liked the fact that he didn't join the academy and start TNG:TNG. Very much the same way I loved the fact Sisko's kid didn't join starfleet and Nog's kid did. It showed a different side to life in that universe, one that often goes ignored.
Star Trek: Free Trader
It's all about a Ferangi trade ship wrangling and stealing stuff for proffit.