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How come the cleric doesn't get Putrefy Food and Drink as a new spell in APG?

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Liberty's Edge

It would seem logical, given good and evil clerics, that this would have become a cleric spell, too. But it appear only to be for the witch. I think the same can be said for the druid.

If you need magic to funk up someone's grub, you suck as a saboteur!

Haven't seen that spell yet. Haven't get to the spells chapter yet - I'm in the middle of classes, reading and making notes for house rules.
Saurstalk wrote:
It would seem logical, given good and evil clerics, that this would have become a cleric spell, too. But it appear only to be for the witch. I think the same can be said for the druid.

It's an iconic thing that witches do in stories. Sour your cow's milk, ruin a tavern's bear, and things like that. If a god has time to worry about health inspections, that god isn't listening to the right prayers.

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CJohnJones wrote:
It's an iconic thing that witches do in stories. Sour your cow's milk, ruin a tavern's bear, and things like that. If a god has time to worry about health inspections, that god isn't listening to the right prayers.

NOT THE BEAR!!!

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Jagyr Ebonwood wrote:
CJohnJones wrote:
It's an iconic thing that witches do in stories. Sour your cow's milk, ruin a tavern's bear, and things like that. If a god has time to worry about health inspections, that god isn't listening to the right prayers.
NOT THE BEAR!!!

TAVERN KEEPER: (weeping) This used to be the Dancing Bear tavern, but now look at our bear! He is ruined! He used to waltz, gavotte, even do the minuet and the mazurka, but since the witch cursed him, he has no rhythm, he has no music, and he now only dances the macarena like a drunken halfling at a bar mitzvah!

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I don't see why they couldn't give the witch Purify Food & Drink too. Seems more useful. I agree with KaeYoss, I don't need magic to contaminate someone's dinner. I can just pee in it.
Liberty's Edge

Sure anyone can contaminate food, but I like the supernatural bent. Besides, putrefy is the opposite to purify, which the cleric has.

Cure v. Inflict
Detect Good v. Evil
Protection fr. Good v. Evil
etc.
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Tivilio wrote:
I don't see why they couldn't give the witch Purify Food & Drink too. Seems more useful. I agree with KaeYoss, I don't need magic to contaminate someone's dinner. I can just pee in it.

I've run quite a few evil clerics in my time. Not one of them thought the spell was worth the slot to prepare. Purifying your food isn't a "Good" act... it's part of basic survival which your evil cleric has as much stake in as your goody two-shoes.

Kevin Andrew Murphy wrote:
Jagyr Ebonwood wrote:
CJohnJones wrote:
It's an iconic thing that witches do in stories. Sour your cow's milk, ruin a tavern's bear, and things like that. If a god has time to worry about health inspections, that god isn't listening to the right prayers.
NOT THE BEAR!!!
TAVERN KEEPER: (weeping) This used to be the Dancing Bear tavern, but now look at our bear! He is ruined! He used to waltz, gavotte, even do the minuet and the mazurka, but since the witch cursed him, he has no rhythm, he has no music, and he now only dances the macarena like a drunken halfling at a bar mitzvah!

That bear was never the same again.

Kevin Andrew Murphy wrote:
Jagyr Ebonwood wrote:
CJohnJones wrote:
It's an iconic thing that witches do in stories. Sour your cow's milk, ruin a tavern's bear, and things like that. If a god has time to worry about health inspections, that god isn't listening to the right prayers.
NOT THE BEAR!!!
TAVERN KEEPER: (weeping) This used to be the Dancing Bear tavern, but now look at our bear! He is ruined! He used to waltz, gavotte, even do the minuet and the mazurka, but since the witch cursed him, he has no rhythm, he has no music, and he now only dances the macarena like a drunken halfling at a bar mitzvah!

Just wait 'til the fighter amputates his forepaws and makes jokes about the right to bear arms. :)

Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber
LazarX wrote:
Tivilio wrote:
I don't see why they couldn't give the witch Purify Food & Drink too. Seems more useful. I agree with KaeYoss, I don't need magic to contaminate someone's dinner. I can just pee in it.
I've run quite a few evil clerics in my time. Not one of them thought the spell was worth the slot to prepare. Purifying your food isn't a "Good" act... it's part of basic survival which your evil cleric has as much stake in as your goody two-shoes.

I presume you're referring to Saurstalk's post following mine. I understand the "good" vs. "evil" implications, and I'm inclined to agree with you. I don't see any point in taking Putrify. It seems like a waste of a spell. Purify, on the other hand, could be quite useful, and I could see it fitting the witch's spell list well.

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Tivilio wrote:


I presume you're referring to Saurstalk's post following mine. I understand the "good" vs. "evil" implications, and I'm inclined to agree with you. I don't see any point in taking Putrify. It seems like a waste of a spell. Purify, on the other hand, could be quite useful, and I could see it fitting the witch's spell list well.

Could be handy for destroying potions (which is pretty hard to do by peeing in them, at least during combat). Yeah, it only does one at a time, and you're throwing away potential loot by doing it, but if the guy looks like he's about to drink that potion, better to trash it than let him have it.

I just love the flavor on it. Spoiling milk and all that, classic witch move.
Varthanna wrote:
Kevin Andrew Murphy wrote:
Jagyr Ebonwood wrote:
CJohnJones wrote:
It's an iconic thing that witches do in stories. Sour your cow's milk, ruin a tavern's bear, and things like that. If a god has time to worry about health inspections, that god isn't listening to the right prayers.
NOT THE BEAR!!!
TAVERN KEEPER: (weeping) This used to be the Dancing Bear tavern, but now look at our bear! He is ruined! He used to waltz, gavotte, even do the minuet and the mazurka, but since the witch cursed him, he has no rhythm, he has no music, and he now only dances the macarena like a drunken halfling at a bar mitzvah!
Just wait 'til the fighter amputates his forepaws and makes jokes about the right to bear arms. :)

In our Kingmaker campaign, I intend to have a rule that ties a man's rights as a citizen to the number of bears he has killed.

So when you kill 18 of them you are bearly legal!

Spoiler:

Okay, that's stolen from Red Dead Redemption. That game's trophies/achievements have a few horrible puns like this. The Two Guys One Co-op is particularly fine, to.

I love horrible puns, if they're done right!

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