
Valegrim |

Maybe it is because I am a bit long in the tooth; but all this new soccer excitement is just wierd; I dont give a fig about soccer; when did this become big in the U.S? seems weird; but then; I am big into hockey and that isnt very primetime; but soccer; sheesh; to me seems slow and boring.
I know some of you love it; no prob; love it all you want, to each his own; was just wondering if anyone else out there doesnt care for soccer either; going to the games are bit insane; lot of rude people; but not as bad as at a softball game in this country; overseas peeps get killing crazy about soccer; just plain wierd. Sometimes the only times Americans overseas are thought of in a good light is at a soccer game; because we just root for our team and dont try to kill the opposing team or fans; wierdness.

Orthos |

I don't give much of a hoot about any sport at all, so soccer is no more a blip on the radar to me than baseball, football, or basketball would be - something I occasionally catch on someone else's TV or in ads online, but as I don't watch TV at home I never stumble onto it on my own and have no desire to get further involved in.

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I don't give much of a hoot about any sport at all, so soccer is no more a blip on the radar to me than baseball, football, or basketball would be - something I occasionally catch on someone else's TV or in ads online, but as I don't watch TV at home I never stumble onto it on my own and have no desire to get further involved in.
+1....I don't think I could care less about any sport.
Pathfinder/D&D/fantasy takes most of my leisure time up. I just can't see me getting excited about seeing some tool kick, run or shoot something into an appropriate item receptor while earning a bajillion dollars and thinking that he is something special....
Valegrim |

these cup things get me confused; isnt the Americas cup a boating thing; then world cup is some soccer thing; bet they dont even drink out of the cup; some cup; not like Lord Stanly's Cup; lol; I am not really a sports fan either; but like to watch a bit if there is absolutely nothing else to do. Its good to fold laundry too hehe.

Steven Tindall |

As for why the "sudden" intrest in soccer. I can only look to our youth. Before baseball was americas game soon within the next 3 to 4 generations soccer will be the "worlds" game. We as americans are the few hold outs that don't go ape crap over soccer and so they have been pushing it in our schools so that every nation will be soccer nuts. I can only guess as to the reasons.
Then again it could simply be that with the influx of foreign youth they brought their culture here and as they stayed soccer gained popularity. No conspricy theory just migration and cultural assimilation.
I have to agree with samnell as well, I'll watch just about anything involving hot looking muscle guys in skimpy outfits. Yes American Gladiators was my favorite sport after WWF.

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We as americans are the few hold outs that don't go ape crap over soccer and so they have been pushing it in our schools so that every nation will be soccer nuts. I can only guess as to the reasons.
So, what you're saying is "hook 'em while they're young"? Isn't that what the tobacco companies were trying?

Bill Lumberg |
Steven Tindall wrote:We as americans are the few hold outs that don't go ape crap over soccer and so they have been pushing it in our schools so that every nation will be soccer nuts. I can only guess as to the reasons.So, what you're saying is "hook 'em while they're young"? Isn't that what the tobacco companies were trying?
Competitive Team Smoking! I can't wait!

Steven Tindall |

Steven Tindall wrote:We as americans are the few hold outs that don't go ape crap over soccer and so they have been pushing it in our schools so that every nation will be soccer nuts. I can only guess as to the reasons.So, what you're saying is "hook 'em while they're young"? Isn't that what the tobacco companies were trying?
well it is a tried and true marketting strategy.

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Aberzombie wrote:Competitive Team Smoking! I can't wait!Steven Tindall wrote:We as americans are the few hold outs that don't go ape crap over soccer and so they have been pushing it in our schools so that every nation will be soccer nuts. I can only guess as to the reasons.So, what you're saying is "hook 'em while they're young"? Isn't that what the tobacco companies were trying?
We can break out Joe Camel to be the USA mascot! I can't wait to see him kick the crap out of other team mascots, that is, if both don't collapse from lack of breath before they get the first swings in.

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As for why the "sudden" intrest in soccer. I can only look to our youth. Before baseball was americas game soon within the next 3 to 4 generations soccer will be the "worlds" game. We as americans are the few hold outs that don't go ape crap over soccer and so they have been pushing it in our schools so that every nation will be soccer nuts. I can only guess as to the reasons.
Then again it could simply be that with the influx of foreign youth they brought their culture here and as they stayed soccer gained popularity. No conspricy theory just migration and cultural assimilation.
I'm gonna disagree with you a little on your last point. I grew up in the 70's in small, eastern Colorado farming towns (populations less than 2,500) and soccer was THE sport. Played it throughout elementary school and junior high. Was a pretty good goalie too! :) We played soccer at lunch, recess, and in leagues during the summer.
To say that that these towns were redneck/white trash is an understatement. I was raised white trailer trash, so I know! ;) Yet soccer leagues are still a big deal.
So I don't think it's an influx of foreign youth. Perhaps it's combination of kids that played a lot that have grown up, and our society's recently found "global awareness" (within that last 15-20 years) that has helped.
Oh, and I didn't care much about the World Cup either.
Though I would have tipped a Guiness in celebration if we had won. Or England for that matter... for strength! :D

Samnell |

I'm gonna disagree with you a little on your last point. I grew up in the 70's in small, eastern Colorado farming towns (populations less than 2,500) and soccer was THE sport. Played it throughout elementary school and junior high. Was a pretty good goalie too! :) We played soccer at lunch, recess, and in leagues during the summer.
I grew up in the 90s in the Upper Midwest. We had enough kids knocking around that there wasn't quite one sport that came out on top, but I'm told by people who grew up with me and paid way more attention than I did to this kind of thing that it was pretty common in high school to have the teachers comment on something about a recent football game and everybody except the football players was a bit mystified. They'd all moved on to soccer and/or hockey.
So far as diversity goes, the town was at the time mostly third and fourth-generation Poles and Germans with smaller numbers of French and off-the-rack white anglo-saxon protestants. Grew up with lots of jokes about how to pronounce last names, greatly complicated by varying degrees of Americanized pronunciation.
It's a generational thing.

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As for why the "sudden" intrest in soccer. I can only look to our youth. Before baseball was americas game soon within the next 3 to 4 generations soccer will be the "worlds" game. We as americans are the few hold outs that don't go ape crap over soccer and so they have been pushing it in our schools so that every nation will be soccer nuts. I can only guess as to the reasons.
Then again it could simply be that with the influx of foreign youth they brought their culture here and as they stayed soccer gained popularity. No conspricy theory just migration and cultural assimilation.I have to agree with samnell as well, I'll watch just about anything involving hot looking muscle guys in skimpy outfits. Yes American Gladiators was my favorite sport after WWF.
Ah but did you change the channels when the, sometimes Hot women came on? or did you suffer through it??
By the way as with Sports, WWF is much more entertaining live. Although some of the "ladies" up close...Shudders

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Hmm, I haven't read the whole thread, but yes... I fear I do not comprehend a game where the objective is to thrust your head or a leg into the way of an oncoming spherical object flying through the air at 80 to 90 miles per hour. In normal life, we tend to avoid this situation.
It seems to be a blood sport for the most part anyway. Someone gets injured and the crowd goes wild.

Steven Tindall |

Hmm, I haven't read the whole thread, but yes... I fear I do not comprehend a game where the objective is to thrust your head or a leg into the way of an oncoming spherical object flying through the air at 80 to 90 miles per hour. In normal life, we tend to avoid this situation.
It seems to be a blood sport for the most part anyway. Someone gets injured and the crowd goes wild.
Sorry star but your confusing soccer and nascar now. The croud cares nothing for the drivers or who wins but the reaction to a crash is amazing. NASCAR is all about bloodsport.

Steven Tindall |

Steven Tindall wrote:As for why the "sudden" intrest in soccer. I can only look to our youth. Before baseball was americas game soon within the next 3 to 4 generations soccer will be the "worlds" game. We as americans are the few hold outs that don't go ape crap over soccer and so they have been pushing it in our schools so that every nation will be soccer nuts. I can only guess as to the reasons.
Then again it could simply be that with the influx of foreign youth they brought their culture here and as they stayed soccer gained popularity. No conspricy theory just migration and cultural assimilation.I have to agree with samnell as well, I'll watch just about anything involving hot looking muscle guys in skimpy outfits. Yes American Gladiators was my favorite sport after WWF.
Ah but did you change the channels when the, sometimes Hot women came on? or did you suffer through it??
By the way as with Sports, WWF is much more entertaining live. Although some of the "ladies" up close...Shudders
NA I didn't change the chanels I just went and used the bathroom or got a snack until the nicley oiled guys in the skimpy shorts came back on. The rock is and always will be one of my favorites, although quit a few of the young guys now are just too hot for words.

Darkwolf |

Don't care much for sports in general, but soccer would be at the bottom of my list. I do enjoy a live hockey game, sometimes I'll even watch a game on tv. The Superbowl is a must see, but it's the only football game I'm likely to see any given year. Baseball or basket ball, I'd be lucky to be able to name a team that isn't local or iconic for some reason. Soccer, I know even less about. Ball, kick, whatever...
Growing up in my little Southwestern town in the late 70's/80s, it was all about Football. Team rivalries determined what towns you did or didn't go to (Or what you did when you got there). Friday nights, most of the town was at the HS field. There were small sporadic soccer leagues back then, but I never thought it would catch on...

The 8th Dwarf |

I enjoy soccer for the same reasons I enjoy role playing games.
What frustrating low scores, poor umpiring, players rolling around on the floor pretending to be hurt so they can milk a penalty, nationalists, communists, racists, hooligans and thugs using the game as an excuse for violence, high levels of corruption, and a willingness to sell out to big companies, a bias towards Euro and South American countries and an arrogance that the game is better than anything that anybody else plays?

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Crimson Jester wrote:NA I didn't change the channels I just went and used the bathroom or got a snack until the nicely oiled guys in the skimpy shorts came back on. The rock is and always will be one of my favorites, although quit a few of the young guys now are just too hot for words.Steven Tindall wrote:As for why the "sudden" interest in soccer. I can only look to our youth. Before baseball was Americas game soon within the next 3 to 4 generations soccer will be the "worlds" game. We as Americans are the few hold outs that don't go ape crap over soccer and so they have been pushing it in our schools so that every nation will be soccer nuts. I can only guess as to the reasons.
Then again it could simply be that with the influx of foreign youth they brought their culture here and as they stayed soccer gained popularity. No conspiracy theory just migration and cultural assimilation.I have to agree with samnell as well, I'll watch just about anything involving hot looking muscle guys in skimpy outfits. Yes American Gladiators was my favorite sport after WWF.
Ah but did you change the channels when the, sometimes Hot women came on? or did you suffer through it??
By the way as with Sports, WWF is much more entertaining live. Although some of the "ladies" up close...Shudders
I will never watch WWE the same way again. I may even have nightmares now. Thank you so much Steven. :P

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CourtFool wrote:I enjoy soccer for the same reasons I enjoy role playing games.What frustrating low scores, poor umpiring, players rolling around on the floor pretending to be hurt so they can milk a penalty, nationalists, communists, racists, hooligans and thugs using the game as an excuse for violence, high levels of corruption, and a willingness to sell out to big companies, a bias towards Euro and South American countries and an arrogance that the game is better than anything that anybody else plays?
aaannnnddddd..we've achieved Nerdrage speed....

Orthos |

The 8th Dwarf wrote:aaannnnddddd..we've achieved Nerdrage speed....CourtFool wrote:I enjoy soccer for the same reasons I enjoy role playing games.What frustrating low scores, poor umpiring, players rolling around on the floor pretending to be hurt so they can milk a penalty, nationalists, communists, racists, hooligans and thugs using the game as an excuse for violence, high levels of corruption, and a willingness to sell out to big companies, a bias towards Euro and South American countries and an arrogance that the game is better than anything that anybody else plays?
They've gone to Plaid!

The 8th Dwarf |

Fake Healer wrote:They've gone to Plaid!The 8th Dwarf wrote:aaannnnddddd..we've achieved Nerdrage speed....CourtFool wrote:I enjoy soccer for the same reasons I enjoy role playing games.What frustrating low scores, poor umpiring, players rolling around on the floor pretending to be hurt so they can milk a penalty, nationalists, communists, racists, hooligans and thugs using the game as an excuse for violence, high levels of corruption, and a willingness to sell out to big companies, a bias towards Euro and South American countries and an arrogance that the game is better than anything that anybody else plays?
:-)

Valegrim |

lol, Aberzombie; you eat to many brains; make me laugh and laugh; thanks; tobacco companies; didnt they learn it from Hitler's Youth movement.
Steven Tindall wrote:We as americans are the few hold outs that don't go ape crap over soccer and so they have been pushing it in our schools so that every nation will be soccer nuts. I can only guess as to the reasons.So, what you're saying is "hook 'em while they're young"? Isn't that what the tobacco companies were trying?

Valegrim |

Actually, 8th Dward pretty much summed up what I think of soccer as well; back in the day I saw Pele' and that was cool, but he is right about all the corruption; of course; anywhere there is big money there is corruption and vice and whatnot. I like games that are more honestly competative where their isnt so much money; like hockey or volleyball; but I am not really into any sport; seem to watch World's Strongest Man competition quite a bit though; is fun to watch some huge guy pull a boat or bus or sling beer barrels and there is a lot of commeraderie there as well as close competition.

The 8th Dwarf |

Actually, 8th Dward pretty much summed up what I think of soccer as well; back in the day I saw Pele' and that was cool, but he is right about all the corruption; of course; anywhere there is big money there is corruption and vice and whatnot. I like games that are more honestly competative where their isnt so much money; like hockey or volleyball; but I am not really into any sport; seem to watch World's Strongest Man competition quite a bit though; is fun to watch some huge guy pull a boat or bus or sling beer barrels and there is a lot of commeraderie there as well as close competition.
A few alternatives to Soccer
Hurling combines the skills of baseball, hockey, and lacrosse in one -Link to Hurling
Australian Rules Football - Cross between Rugby, Gaelic Football and Basketball - Link to Aussie Rules
Rugby at its best (some times it gets bogged down and being a fan of the Wallabies is often very frustrating and depressing) -Link to Rugby.
Gaelic Football - one of the ancestors of Australian Rules football.
Thai Soccer Takraw is an explosive mix of football, volleyball and Kung Fu.

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The 8th Dwarf wrote:aaannnnddddd..we've achieved Nerdrage speed....CourtFool wrote:I enjoy soccer for the same reasons I enjoy role playing games.What frustrating low scores, poor umpiring, players rolling around on the floor pretending to be hurt so they can milk a penalty, nationalists, communists, racists, hooligans and thugs using the game as an excuse for violence, high levels of corruption, and a willingness to sell out to big companies, a bias towards Euro and South American countries and an arrogance that the game is better than anything that anybody else plays?
Actually that pretty much sums it up for me!

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What frustrating low scores, poor umpiring, players rolling around on the floor pretending to be hurt so they can milk a penalty, nationalists, communists, racists, hooligans and thugs using the game as an excuse for violence, high levels of corruption, and a willingness to sell out to big companies, a bias towards Euro and South American countries and an arrogance that the game is better than anything that anybody else plays?
I don't mind low scores but nothing pisses me off more then diving. Nothing turns my stomach more then a grown man rolling on the ground like his leg's been broken just to draw a penalty. They should play dives over and over on the jumbo screens and fine the pricks.
Hooligans are another lot that pisses me off. Here in north America we get idiots that riot all the time. Our team wins: riot. Our team looses: riot. It's idiotic. This can't be normal behavior and I'm willing to bet that like soccer hooligans it's the same idiots starting these riots over and over again. These nuts need to be banned from sporting events and kept away from their venues.
And lastly I got no problem with big business wanting a piece of the action . . . if they cut the prices! I despise advertising that I've had to pay for. If I pay $10 for a movie and there's an ad at the start I make a mental note to never buy that product. If I'm paying an outrages amount of money to see a sporting event or a concert I don't want to see ads everywhere. If they helped pay for my tickets then I wouldn't mind. I don't mind ads on TV or even on the internet because I believe they help pay the bills for those stations and web sites. Now I understand that there is an extremely high cost to put on shows and sporting event so if tickets cost me $15 I wouldn't mind sitting in the bud light seats at a hockey game.

Eric Jarman |

Don't care for most sports. Though I do enjoy a good jousting match while chugging mead and munching on a roasted turkey leg. (I suspect the mead has something to do with the degree of enjoyment. Maybe I should try that at other sporting events.)