Phil Athans leaves WotC


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Jandrem wrote:
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LazarX wrote:
That's not a fair comparison. One thing that you have to remember is that a significant portion of the trading cards bought are purchased by people who plan on flipping them over as a financial investment. (Truthfully, how many of you expect to sell your Pathfinder books for 2-5x the price you pay for them?)

A significant number of them are also bought to be pulped in order to make feed for unicorns.

Isn't making things up fun?

Back when I played M;TG (around '94-'97) I knew several hobby stores who were doing exactly this. They'd buy a box of booster packs, open each pack and sell the rares/uncommons individually. Heck, I remember once I bought a Mirage starter deck and got 2 cards in it worth around $50, turned right around and sold them back to the store. This was an extremely common practice.

Don't believe me? Go look on Ebay. I know it's happening BIG time with Star Wars miniatures.

Singles market is nothing new to gaming stores. They regularly open up boxes of M:tG or another CCGs for singles, while buying or trading for singles they need/want.


Charles Evans 25 wrote:
I'm a little sad for Phil, as I enjoyed his Rising Tide trilogy back in the days of 2nd Edition Forgotten Realms,

That was Mel Odom.

yet another guy wrote:
That sucks, because I really liked Phil's Sahuagin trilogy from FR

Still not him.

and yet a third guy wrote:
Same here Todd. His Sahuagin trilogy is still one of my favorites

... what's wrong with you people? ;)


Arnwyn wrote:
Charles Evans 25 wrote:
I'm a little sad for Phil, as I enjoyed his Rising Tide trilogy back in the days of 2nd Edition Forgotten Realms,

That was Mel Odom.

yet another guy wrote:
That sucks, because I really liked Phil's Sahuagin trilogy from FR

Still not him.

and yet a third guy wrote:
Same here Todd. His Sahuagin trilogy is still one of my favorites
... what's wrong with you people? ;)

You're right, it says Mel Odom on the cover. Strange, as for some reason I have this weird feeling Phil had something to do with it.

:-?

Sorry about that... :(


Hmm. It's harder to be generous about the Baldur's Gate novels, which do have Phil's name on the first two in the series. I liked the second one better than the first, perhaps because it seemed to me to be more about the characters and less about a novelisation of a computer game. (Plus it had the advantage of Minsc and Boo...:D )

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Charles Evans 25 wrote:
That was Mel Odom.

*facepalm*

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Arnwyn wrote:
Charles Evans 25 wrote:
I'm a little sad for Phil, as I enjoyed his Rising Tide trilogy back in the days of 2nd Edition Forgotten Realms,

That was Mel Odom.

yet another guy wrote:
That sucks, because I really liked Phil's Sahuagin trilogy from FR

Still not him.

and yet a third guy wrote:
Same here Todd. His Sahuagin trilogy is still one of my favorites
... what's wrong with you people? ;)

Yeah, I was the "yet another guy" quote. Not sure where my head was at the time. Once I got home, I was looking at my bookshelf and thinking "WTF?".

Maybe we were thinking of the Watercourse Trilogy, which was also Forgotten Realms.


DeathQuaker wrote:

... I only know Philip Athans as the guy who wrote those excruciatingly horrible Baldur's Gate novelizations a little over a decade ago.

At the risk of sounding like a horrible person, is this really a bad thing?

Horrible or not, your sentiments are not unreasonable. On the books that have borne his name, they have mostly been quite bad, AFAIC. Further, FR novels have been pretty much universally horrendous for the last many years... and worsening, not improving.

While I highly doubt this event will result in a turnaround in the quality of FR books (that ship has sailed), I - personally - still can't be all that choked up about it... (Sorry if that offends some people's sensibilities.)

(As for mixing up the sahuagin trilogy - while it might be the Watercourse trilogy, I think people are actually thinking of the Realms of the Deep short-story anthology [which ties to the Threat from the Sea trilogy] - Athans' name is featured very prominently on the cover as being the editor.)


I don't know if Phil was the editor on them, but the last two WotC books I read - the first two in "The Dungeons" series were horridly put together. (Well, actually, the first was horrid, the second was "meh".)

Reading those two books convinced me to stop buying WotC novels.


Vanulf Wulfson wrote:

Phil is a friend of mine and has benn since we were in high school together.

...

In regards to D&D and WotC he told me that 4th Edition is a complete bust, a victim of the bad economy, but that M:TG has had it's best year EVER.

Are you just yankin' our chain on this one?

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DaveMage wrote:
Are you just yankin' our chain on this one?

It was successful enough to merit special mention in Hasbro's 2009 shareholder report.

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