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Just want to say, I suck!
If you are still reading this then please find another topic.
First off.
I am a deviant.
I tease, I tempt and I mix things up so people have regrets.
That said...
Start saving up now? PaizoCon 2011?
I think I should check my head but here is my advice.
Go to GenCon! PaizoCon is woundrous, but the bigger of the two is GenCon. If you plan everything right, you can do both. GenCon cash has to be available in January. You need some 2-3k for GenCon and it must start in January. PaizoCon is 2k and it starts in March. Call me crazy, but saving up before taxes is a lot harder than saving up after taxes.
I will never screw this up again! NEVER!
My first GenCon is 2011. It is a shame but there it is.

Auziark the Mad |

I have to recommend any PaizoCon over any GenCon, but then people say that I'm crazy...
But yes, start saving up your buttons, bus-tickets, and Smarties lids right now, to pay for your trips! If you can spell out 'Who wants to be a millionaire? Why I do, dawg!' with Smarties lids, I hear that you win a fantastic prize. That's if you use the correct colours to do it, that is - use the wrong colours and you just end up with a piece of modern art. Hmm. Actually as an aside, modern art is pretty valuable these days...
So yes, save up now! Go to FBPDGSH Con 2011, or if you can't get tickets because the tinker gnomes have booked them all already, settle for a PaizoCon or GenCon instead.
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GenCon is indeed awesome, but with my wife being a non-gamer, there is not much to convince her to go to Indy. I just got back from GenCon, and as fun as it was, I would enjoy doing a con where my wife could come along. Seattle has lots of stuff that she is intrested in seeing, so Paiazocon is a much easier sell. So, Paizocon in 2011 and Gencon again in 2012.

Kyle Baird |

Kyle Baird wrote:Or you could be insane like me... Paizo Con, Origins, Gen Con, now Dragon*Con.Your what we call a "Hard Charger" in the military, Kyle... you sick, sick man...
Enjoy Dragon*Con!
MichiCon this weekend, U-Con in November... Someone keeps trying to get me to Gamicon out in Iowa next year.
I wonder if there's any gaming going on at the AEE in Vegas? ;-)

Kyle Baird |

Gencon was great this year.
I would expect exponential growth for Paizo con next year, probably similar to the percentage of growth from last year to this one.
As packed as it was, I am under the very strong impression that the total number of tables for PFS did not increase this year.

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Back-to-Back weekends of PaizoCon and Origins was brutal.
That said, I know at least two wonderful people who wouldn't be at one of them if they weren't (a pair of Aussies).
Back to back was brutal indeed. But, that was what made the trip affordable for me and the munchkin. As fun as Paizocon was, it's too expensive to fly all that way for. Having Origins the week after made me cringe a little less at the cost.
I really hope the dates are a week apart again in 2011 (sorry Doug, I know you weren't thrilled with it).What's all this Fathers Day stuff about? Fathers Day is in September (at least, it is here)

Kyle Baird |

They didn't...but the number of tables with 7 players on it was certainly higher. :)
As great as that is (for the Campaign), seven players at a table is horrible for both the GM and Players. I could list the reasons why, but I doubt that's necessary. I'd rather see "Reserve" GMs or something in place to handle over-flow at a Con like Gen Con. Have 2-4 GMs sign up to run Classics and/or what's being offered in that slot, but for tables that aren't advertised.

Lilith |

As great as that is (for the Campaign), seven players at a table is horrible for both the GM and Players. I could list the reasons why, but I doubt that's necessary. I'd rather see "Reserve" GMs or something in place to handle over-flow at a Con like Gen Con. Have 2-4 GMs sign up to run Classics and/or what's being offered in that slot, but for tables that aren't advertised.
The problem was that we didn't have enough volunteer GMs...and until we get enough GMs to handle the demand, it's going to be an issue.
Edit: I'm talking about GenCon...which isn't the right thread for this. Sorry!
Kyle Baird |

The problem was that we didn't have enough volunteer GMs...and until we get enough GMs to handle the demand, it's going to be an issue.
I fully understand, heck we were short for a few slots! The lesson to be learned is that for a large Con, the number of advertised and official slots needs to be less than the number of GM's available... in an ideal world. :P

Charles Evans 25 |
Any news on dates yet? *bats eye lashes at Vic*
Hey, the Seattle event isn't the only PaizoCon in town! Well I mean, okay, it is the only one in the vicinity of Seattle and Paizo HQ, but there is an event starting up in Australia this year, and at some point we hope to be able to announce our own third PaizoCon UK for next year...
Oh, umm, were you expecting the exceptionally-well-informed Vic to have the news on those events too? Ahh. Well that explains it...Okay, he's said he has no information. I am duly chastened.
Edit:
PaizoConOZ is on the 23rd-26th September this year in Brisbane: *Link*

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DMcCoy1693 wrote:Any news on dates yet? *bats eye lashes at Vic*<snip>.
Edit:
PaizoConOZ is on the 23rd-26th September this year in Brisbane: *Link*
It seems some enterprising 4e folk have set up a con that weekend too - for a lot less $$ than PaizoconOz is charging. Maybe there should be some talking going on and venue sharing. Just a thought.

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Urizen wrote:When are the dates slotted for next year? Or is that too early to ask?A bit too early. We still have to decide if we want to keep the same venue, and such. They've been very good to us, but as the con grows, we need to make sure they're keeping up with our needs.
Opinions?
Any news on dates yet, Vic? Or even if it will be at the same hotel?

Kyle Baird |

Yeah, those pesky ducks - they delayed Paizocon dates announcement last year too
Hrmm... (or is that Hyrummm?) Looks like the dates were confirmed earlier last year! Booo!
If they aren't final, please keep in mind Origins is June 22-26.

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Cpt_kirstov wrote:Yeah, those pesky ducks - they delayed Paizocon dates announcement last year tooHrmm... (or is that Hyrummm?) Looks like the dates were confirmed earlier last year! Booo!
If they aren't final, please keep in mind Origins is June 22-26.
** spoiler omitted **
Jeff Alvarez is working on getting the dates set up. Patience. :)
-Lisa

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Kyle Baird wrote:Cpt_kirstov wrote:Yeah, those pesky ducks - they delayed Paizocon dates announcement last year tooHrmm... (or is that Hyrummm?) Looks like the dates were confirmed earlier last year! Booo!
If they aren't final, please keep in mind Origins is June 22-26.
** spoiler omitted **
Jeff Alvarez is working on getting the dates set up. Patience. :)
-Lisa
If I had patience I'd be a doctor :-)

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Another request for an earlier weekend in June. Preferably the first weekend...and if it helps my case, that would be an awesome birthday present for me (June 6th) PLUS, I've been there since year zero :). Even when it meant I had a new baby with me and my family was in the middle of moving across the country. And I hadn't slept in months.
Which means, of course, that I'll be there no matter when it's held. But yeah, earlier would be better.

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As an unemployed chappie, I can't guarantee any "saving" for PaizoCon. However, I CAN guarantee I'll be there, whether as a legal guest of the hotel or as some raving hobo living in Zux's room like a mad prophet. Drink is much required, and while Zux makes an amazing brew, I suffer the familial gluten intolerance, so wine and distilled spirits are much appreciated.
Donations would be great. :D

mearrin69 |

Clearly there's nothing official yet on this but do we have some idea if the dates are going to be earlier in June? I'm assuming it's going to be set up not to conflict with Origins? Trying to make sure something else I'm trying to schedule doesn't conflict...definitely don't want to miss the show. Any hints (even vague ones) would be helpful. Thanks!
M

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Clearly there's nothing official yet on this but do we have some idea if the dates are going to be earlier in June? I'm assuming it's going to be set up not to conflict with Origins? Trying to make sure something else I'm trying to schedule doesn't conflict...definitely don't want to miss the show. Any hints (even vague ones) would be helpful. Thanks!
M
We can't provide hints until we nail it down ourselves... which should happen fairly soon.

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mearrin69 wrote:We can't provide hints until we nail it down ourselves... which should happen fairly soon.Clearly there's nothing official yet on this but do we have some idea if the dates are going to be earlier in June? I'm assuming it's going to be set up not to conflict with Origins? Trying to make sure something else I'm trying to schedule doesn't conflict...definitely don't want to miss the show. Any hints (even vague ones) would be helpful. Thanks!
M
do you need a hammer for that nail? I can lend you one.

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Ok, Lisa appears to be ignoring me (with good reason, as I typically tend to be quite silly.) Vic, anything you can do on the week-long PaizoCon front?
Although a week long Con sounds great in theory, I think it would be more of a negative in reality.
First, the Paizo staff would all have to pretty much write off an entire work week, which would wreak havok with the always tenuous production schedule. It would also be a LOT more complex to plan and impliment.
Next, it would be MUCH more expensive for us (the public) in terms of hotel rooms, meals etc. It would also mean people would need to use an entire week of vaction, as opposed to just a day or so.
These factors would probably mean that LESS people would be able to attend and would in fact have a detrimental outcome overall I'm afraid.
The reality is that doing it over a long weekend like they do currently is probably the best way to do it. I suspect this is the reason even CenCon and Origins are only 4 days long.

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kikai13 wrote:Ok, Lisa appears to be ignoring me (with good reason, as I typically tend to be quite silly.) Vic, anything you can do on the week-long PaizoCon front?Although a week long Con sounds great in theory, I think it would be more of a negative in reality.
First, the Paizo staff would all have to pretty much write off an entire work week, which would wreak havok with the always tenuous production schedule. It would also be a LOT more complex to plan and impliment.
Next, it would be MUCH more expensive for us (the public) in terms of hotel rooms, meals etc. It would also mean people would need to use an entire week of vaction, as opposed to just a day or so.
These factors would probably mean that LESS people would be able to attend and would in fact have a detrimental outcome overall I'm afraid.
The reality is that doing it over a long weekend like they do currently is probably the best way to do it. I suspect this is the reason even CenCon and Origins are only 4 days long.
Oh, tut. You and your silly "reality." No fun.

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Ok, Lisa appears to be ignoring me (with good reason, as I typically tend to be quite silly.) Vic, anything you can do on the week-long PaizoCon front?
Zuxius and I have been joking that now that PaizoCon is run by Paizo, I need to have a pre-PaizoCon. I sort of have been doing this, by starting festivities on Thursday (tour of downtown Seattle, followed by the Meet and Eat event), and then drinking in Zuxius' room.
;-)

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This year's ducks must have the advanced template. Someone kill them and put them in a row already!
Can we make them Zombies after that?