What's a 'world cup'?
Well from what I've experianced there was this really hot guy I met in a bar and he invited me back to see his "world cup" then it turned into a loving cup and after we were finished it resembled a cup o noodle but thats the only time I have encountered a "world cup"
It's a sporting tournament with the word "world" in it, but more than one country competes in it. I can understand why you wouldn't understand given you seem to reserve the word for things that only your country plays.I also can understand that using the word "football" to refer to ,well, football, rather than the bastard offspring of rugby you, for some silly reason, refer to as football might add to the confusion.
Still, I'm sure you'll catch up with the rest of the world someday.
Toodlepip.
I hear the "athletes" who play soccer like to pretend to be hurt, just to draw attention to themselves, kind like my girlfriend.
And, how can we catch up when we're ahead? Maybe throw the country in reverse, I suppose.....
It's a sporting tournament with the word "world" in it, but more than one country competes in it. I can understand why you wouldn't understand given you seem to reserve the word for things that only your country plays.I also can understand that using the word "football" to refer to ,well, football, rather than the bastard offspring of rugby you, for some silly reason, refer to as football might add to the confusion.
Still, I'm sure you'll catch up with the rest of the world someday.
Toodlepip.
I hear the "athletes" who play soccer like to pretend to be hurt, just to draw attention to themselves, kind like my girlfriend.
And, how can we catch up when we're ahead? Maybe throw the country in reverse, I suppose.....
And I hear the 'athletes' who play Amercian 'football' get substituted every five minutes because all that running around is just so hard.
Technically what you refer to is called 'diving'. It is an offence under the rules of the game and should be dealt with much more harshly by the referees. So you and I agree that this behaviour, primarily carried out by continental types, is not a part of the beautiful game. There may be hope for your understanding yet.
What's a 'world cup'?I think it's got something to do with those Harry Potter books.It's a sporting tournament with the word "world" in it, but more than one country competes in it. I can understand why you wouldn't understand given you seem to reserve the word for things that only your country plays.
I also can understand that using the word "football" to refer to ,well, football, rather than the bastard offspring of rugby you, for some silly reason, refer to as football might add to the confusion.
Still, I'm sure you'll catch up with the rest of the world someday.
Toodlepip.
Oh my... England's dry wit strikes again. :)
And I hear the 'athletes' who play Amercian 'football' get substituted every five minutes because all that running around is just so hard.
Technically what you refer to is called 'diving'. It is an offence under the rules of the game and should be dealt with much more harshly by the referees. So you and I agree that this behaviour, primarily carried out by continental types, is not a part of the beautiful game. There may be hope for your understanding yet.
Let's say mediterranean, noodle loving, types. For some reason I can't fathom, unsportly behaviour always happen south of home.
Let's say mediterranean, noodle loving, types. For some reason I can't fathom, unsportly behaviour always happen south of home.And I hear the 'athletes' who play Amercian 'football' get substituted every five minutes because all that running around is just so hard.
Technically what you refer to is called 'diving'. It is an offence under the rules of the game and should be dealt with much more harshly by the referees. So you and I agree that this behaviour, primarily carried out by continental types, is not a part of the beautiful game. There may be hope for your understanding yet.
There is a certain pasta-related seciton that dives a lot, yes. I hadn't noticed a southern connection before, although I think Latin-temprement might be more accurate. Well-spotted, that man.
There is a certain pasta-related seciton that dives a lot, yes. I hadn't noticed a southern connection before, although I think Latin-temprement might be more accurate. Well-spotted, that man.
You're welcome.
Jermain Defoe let slip in interview today that the English team have practised penalties every day this month.
Cheers
wait, WHAT? that's just unfair. England can't just start practicing penalties all of a sudden. In the end they will be confided in a penalty shoot-out and how shall we beat them if that happens?
I demand that outrageous behaviour to be stopped right now!!!!!
Technically what you refer to is called 'diving'. It is an offence under the rules of the game and should be dealt with much more harshly by the referees. So you and I agree that this behaviour, primarily carried out by continental types, is not a part of the beautiful game. There may be hope for your understanding yet.
And Kudos to the English fans who don't except that behaviour At ALL. Here in Germany the Fans are outraged if the other team does it but turn simultaneously blind if the own team does it
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Technically what you refer to is called 'diving'. It is an offence under the rules of the game and should be dealt with much more harshly by the referees. So you and I agree that this behaviour, primarily carried out by continental types, is not a part of the beautiful game. There may be hope for your understanding yet.
Although he is a fantastic players, Christiano Ronaldo is pretty infamous for diving.
I LOVE soccer but I can certainly do without the blatant dives.
I can also do without the offsides rule, but that's probably neither here nor there ... :)
I don't think soccer will gain mainstream acceptance until teh officating is more uniform. Keeping the referees (and linesmen) shielded behind a cloak of secrecy goes against American sense of fair play.
I was surprised to see three instances so far of referees carding players for diving (simulation), which brings the total number of times I have seen that to five. Personally, I would like to see red cards handed out (often) for diving, even late if teh grievously injured suddenly hops back up or if replay shows no contact whatsoever made. I'm a big hockey fan. Why? Because there is near universal condemnation (by the players) for diving and regular enforcement against it.
I've seen so many players choose to fall down rather than hop/roll/whatever and continue the play, where that simple continuance could lead to a scoring chance. And that laziness, that gamesmanship, that crass disrespect for honest competition completely turns me off. Despite their physical conditioning, I question the toughness of the majority of these "world-class" athletes because so many choose to feign a foul. They make the NBA look honest! (and I quit watching pro basketball some time ago too).
I think there's an important rule change that should be made:
Suggested rule revision: a shot struck from within the opposing team's penalty area is never considered offside.
This would allow for far more intensive and attractive in-box plays and probably add to the goals-scored bottom-line too.
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Well, since our northern European friends seem to be making good observations, I'll add mine:
Did anyone else notice that Aberzombie, who says he doesn't like football, is really keeping good track of this Thread?
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I don't have too much a problem with diving, though it is taken a bit too far. But that's NOT the fault of the players. It's the Ref's fault!
They seem to be absolutely blind. If they were competent then players wouldn't be able to get away with diving so much.
In American football we do the same thing as diving -- it's just far more rare because the refs see so much more of the game. Just this last year a pansy named Tom Brady was barely touched and he cried and whined and called the official to demand a "flag" (yellow card, sorta) -- and he got it. Americans were outraged and -- this brings me to something else -- a rule adjustment could be added this year. (In American football, at the end of every season, the teams all have a representative who meet with each other to decide if any minor adjustments to the rules need be made (American football has a bazillion rules -- makes your football rules really simple).)
I think the answer in football, since these refs (I'm certain) are the best in the world, is to add another two refs in each game.
Not that it's necessarily a great comparrison but American football, a field 60 feet smaller than your football pitch, has 5 officials plus a guy upstairs looking at video replay. And American football, by design, is much, much more localized than football.
And even still refs miss stuff in our sport. (there's a truism here that "holding" occurs EVERY play) Of course, the refs can also go back and correct themselves -- they can discuss with each other what the correct call should be or the team can "challenge" a call and force the refs to watch a video replay to get it right.
I just am not convinced there are enough refs on the pitch.
As I understand, FIFA (and football/soccer philosophy as a whole) decrees that the ball must roll. Things like replay-refereeing create too much of a break to the flow of the game.
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The term "football" comes from the primary action of the game: kicking the ball with one's foot. The game originated in various places, but was officially founded in England in 1863. The sport was first called "Association Football," and the first official club to play it was the Football Association. The word "association" was abbreviated and altered, eventually becoming "soccer."
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Whoa there, I'm not calling for replay or stoppage -- I'm calling for more officials on the pitch.
I heard recently there is talk of maybe adding two additional refs ... more like line judges. The talk is of putting one ref behind each goal so they can watch more closely what goes on in the box during corners, shots on goal etc.
I think it's a pretty interesting idea. Who knows if anything will come of it though ...
Arriba Chile. Spain got lucky. That red card was just silly.
Go chile go!
Whoa there, I'm not calling for replay or stoppage -- I'm calling for more officials on the pitch.
They are testing this at the moment.
Currently there is the Main-Referee on the field, to line-referees on the long sides and a fourth-man between the coaching areas to keep the coaches and substitute players under surveillance ( I think he also keeps track of the injurie times and decides how long the overtime will be)
in the Eurpoa league they tested additional line-referees on the short sides like marc wrote
If you guys (Americans) are not watching your team play Ghana, tune in. Very exciting game, your team just tied it up on a penalty shot and are controlling the second half. Loser goes home, winner moves ahead to the WORLD CUP. I hope my southern neighbours win!
I know, great goal, but oh no....
I know, great goal, but oh no....Unless you're from Mali or Morocco, you jinxed us! :P
I think the Ghana team jinxed you...:( We don't practice much Voodoo here in Canada.
Oh well...nice showing guys. Good game.
Man ... I have no words ...
I'm kind of heart broken ...
Now you understand soccer!
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So, does this mean we can stop talking about soccer now? I mean, in another month or two football is going to be starting.
There is still plenty of great World Cup games left. Like most of the planet we will be talking soccer for some time yet.
You could always just stay out of this thread if it bothers you - just a thought.
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You could always just stay out of this thread if it bothers you - just a thought.I could, if it weren't for the fact that it keeps getting in the way of more interesting stuff.
Look man, we all get it - you are not a soccer fan. A few billion others are, including the people in this Off Topic thread. Seriously, can you please give it a rest?
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You could always just stay out of this thread if it bothers you - just a thought.I could, if it weren't for the fact that it keeps getting in the way of more interesting stuff.
For goodness sake man. If you can't go elsewhere on these threads for interesting stuff instead of being a humbug on this one then I'm sorry for you.
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Look man, we all get it - you are not a soccer fan. A few billion others are, including the people in this Off Topic thread. Seriously, can you please give it a rest?
Ah dude, I'm just having a bit of fun with ya. It's cool that the US team did so well this year. I didn't watch a single game, but the news was all over the place this year. Which, I guess, means that one day, here in the states, soccer mat actually be more popular than womens basketball. :)
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So, does this mean we can stop talking about soccer now? I mean, in another month or two football is going to be starting.
There is still plenty of great World Cup games left. Like most of the planet we will be talking soccer for some time yet.
You could always just stay out of this thread if it bothers you - just a thought.
It's people like this guy that promulgates the myth in the rest of the world that Americans are arrogant and ignorant about the beautiful game. I cannot begin to tell you how many kids here in Virginia are enjoying the tournament.
To do as well as the USA have done in this World Cup without the major payouts from big time sponsors and fans that other countries have stands testament to how great America will be in the future as more and more young people play it.
I'm English and I don't think the England side is anywhere near as good this time round. Predict tomorrow's match Germany 4-England 1. ;)
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Look man, we all get it - you are not a soccer fan. A few billion others are, including the people in this Off Topic thread. Seriously, can you please give it a rest?Ah dude, I'm just having a bit of fun with ya. It's cool that the US team did so well this year. I didn't watch a single game, but the news was all over the place this year. Which, I guess, means that one day, here in the states, soccer mat actually be more popular than womens basketball. :)
LOL! Very amusing, but not convincing methinks ;)
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LOL! Very amusing, but not convincing methinks ;)Look man, we all get it - you are not a soccer fan. A few billion others are, including the people in this Off Topic thread. Seriously, can you please give it a rest?Ah dude, I'm just having a bit of fun with ya. It's cool that the US team did so well this year. I didn't watch a single game, but the news was all over the place this year. Which, I guess, means that one day, here in the states, soccer mat actually be more popular than womens basketball. :)
Oh, noes! You don't believe I'm being sincere!?! Whatever shall I do! Just go back to being an arrogant and ignorant American I guess. Way to show your prejudice against America, by the way....
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Oh, noes! You don't believe I'm being sincere!?! Whatever shall I do! Just go back to being an arrogant and ignorant American I guess. Way to show your prejudice against America, by the way....LOL! Very amusing, but not convincing methinks ;)Look man, we all get it - you are not a soccer fan. A few billion others are, including the people in this Off Topic thread. Seriously, can you please give it a rest?Ah dude, I'm just having a bit of fun with ya. It's cool that the US team did so well this year. I didn't watch a single game, but the news was all over the place this year. Which, I guess, means that one day, here in the states, soccer mat actually be more popular than womens basketball. :)
So. You can be as offensive as you wish to everyone on this thread, and if someone calls you on it then I'm prejudiced against Americans just because I happen to be English LMAO!
I'm very sure that a lot of the posters here who are Americans getting irritated by you. Nice try but no cigar.
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So. You can be as offensive as you wish to everyone on this thread, and if someone calls you on it then I'm prejudiced against Americans just because I happen to be English LMAO!
As far as I know, only you and one other person were claiming I was being offensive. It seems that everyone else got that I was just giving them a hard time for the fun of it, which is something sports fans do around here.
And I never said anything about your being English. There are many people who think of Americans as arrogant and ignorant. I can't help it if you were sounding like them.
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Oh, noes! You don't believe I'm being sincere!?! Whatever shall I do! Just go back to being an arrogant and ignorant American I guess. Way to show your prejudice against America, by the way....LOL! Very amusing, but not convincing methinks ;)Look man, we all get it - you are not a soccer fan. A few billion others are, including the people in this Off Topic thread. Seriously, can you please give it a rest?Ah dude, I'm just having a bit of fun with ya. It's cool that the US team did so well this year. I didn't watch a single game, but the news was all over the place this year. Which, I guess, means that one day, here in the states, soccer mat actually be more popular than womens basketball. :)So. You can be as offensive as you wish to everyone on this thread, and if someone calls you on it then I'm prejudiced against Americans just because I happen to be English LMAO!
I'm very sure that a lot of the posters here who are Americans getting irritated by you. Nice try but no cigar.
I know I am.
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Ah yes, I can clearly see that my posting has been incessant! 5 post in the last 2 hours and 45 minutes! How dare I? Verily, I am a disruptive influence. What was I thinking? Next time, I shall restrict myself to threads peopled with folks who have a sense of humor.
Hey now I have posted here.
Go Germany!!!!!!!!!!
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You can only post here if you mean it! Seriously! If you have any intention of offering up some kind of lame joke, just leave now! Ok?Hey now I have posted here.
Go Germany!!!!!!!!!!
All I know of Soccer I have learned from my co-workers
Root for team USA, if they can't win then Root for Mexico, If they do not win root for whomsoever is facing off against England.
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You can only post here if you mean it! Seriously! If you have any intention of offering up some kind of lame joke, just leave now! Ok?Hey now I have posted here.
Go Germany!!!!!!!!!!
All I know of Soccer I have learned from my co-workers
Root for team USA, if they can't win then Root for Mexico, If they do not win root for whomsoever is facing off against England.
Yes. Damn those redcoats!! ;) Still England has a s*%$ty side this time round so I'm a guessing "Go Germany" may not be required. So who'll take my wager Germany 4-England 1?