I was looking through the bestiary and I read something in the back of the book that surprised me:
Orc Subtype: This subtype is applied to orcs and creatures related to orcs, such as half-orcs. Creatures with the orc subtype have darkvision 60 feet and light sensitivity.
So, does this mean that half-orc player characters are supposed to have the light sensitivity quality?
Has anyone been playing the race that way?
Is this in some errata that I haven't read?
I originally thought it would not apply to PCs because it wasn't specifically mentioned in the half-orc description within the PF core rulebook. However, I am reconsidering after reading this explicit statement:
Orc BloodHalf-orcs count as both humans and orcs for any effect related to race.
Any thoughts?
No it just means that, if anyone ever releases a feat/magic item/whatever that only works for orcs, half-orcs could use it too. Nothing more, nothing less.
EDIT: Basically, they just qualify for anything that requires the orc subtype without technically having all the features of the orc subtype.
I thought we got an official answer to this in an earlier thread. Am I imagining that?
I was looking through the bestiary and I read something in the back of the book that surprised me:
Orc Subtype: This subtype is applied to orcs and creatures related to orcs, such as half-orcs. Creatures with the orc subtype have darkvision 60 feet and light sensitivity.
So, does this mean that half-orc player characters are supposed to have the light sensitivity quality?
Has anyone been playing the race that way?
Is this in some errata that I haven't read?
I originally thought it would not apply to PCs because it wasn't specifically mentioned in the half-orc description within the PF core rulebook. However, I am reconsidering after reading this explicit statement:
Any thoughts?
Orc BloodHalf-orcs count as both humans and orcs for any effect related to race.
As far as that last quote goes, I believe Orc Blood, like Elf Blood, is for spells/items/abilities that affect certain races, like an orc bane longsword, favored enemy: orc, or the like. I don't think it's referring to anything beyond that sort of thing. As for the light-sensitivity being mentioned in the Bestiary and not the races chapter, I don't know. I would assume the core book is right in this case when it omits it. Maybe the orc subtype doesn't apply to all half-orcs, it's just listing its common uses. It might depend on how "half" the orc really is, what race it is mixed with, etc. Ultimately, I'd say go with your preference or leave it off entirely. I'm pretty sure it would be in the races chapter if it were intended to apply to players.
Aand James beat me to it. Problem solved I spose =)
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I'm inclined to think that this is an unintentionally overlooked part of the book.As opposed to intentionally overlooked?
No, I mean it's one of those parts of the book where someone reads that section and could misunderstand, where it isn't likely the intent.
Just like what I previously posted. :D
*facepalm*
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I'm inclined to think that this is an unintentionally overlooked part of the book.As opposed to intentionally overlooked?No, I mean it's one of those parts of the book where someone reads that section and could misunderstand, where it isn't likely the intent.
Just like what I previously posted. :D
*facepalm*
Heh! No worries.
It's errata, in any event, and is being changed in the 2nd printing.
Half-orcs do not gain light sensitivity. That's an error that'll be fixed in the 2nd printing of the Bestiary and the errata (which should be available quite soon).
The half-orc description in the PF Core rulebook is correct.
Thankyou for the quick and official response.
So, it wasn't in the errata that I haven't gotten around to reading but it is incorrect.
But, thanks again to all for the quick responses.