
Leofrik Forthwind |

Leofrik Forthwind wrote:This is a horribly silly question, but how does the dice expression work here? Is there a link or something I can go to to read about it? I'm so used to invisiblecastle that I've not looked elsewhere.When you're on the posting page, look below the window you use to type your post. There's a "BBCode tags you can use:" with a spoiler button. If you expand that spoiler, it'll show you every tag (including the "dice" tag) with examples of how to use it.
Thanks, mate!

Dr. Impossible - Mwangi DM |

This is a horribly silly question, but how does the dice expression work here? Is there a link or something I can go to to read about it? I'm so used to invisiblecastle that I've not looked elsewhere.
This isn't hedgeknight, but I've been doing the same.
Err...right. Hadn't meant to single out hedgeknight, he was just the one I happened to notice. Anyway, I'd prefer it if all die rolling could be managed here on-site. Thanks, Neil, for pointing the way.

hedgeknight |

Leofrik Forthwind wrote:Err...right. Hadn't meant to single out hedgeknight, he was just the one I happened to notice. Anyway, I'd prefer it if all die rolling could be managed here on-site. Thanks, Neil, for pointing the way.This is a horribly silly question, but how does the dice expression work here? Is there a link or something I can go to to read about it? I'm so used to invisiblecastle that I've not looked elsewhere.
This isn't hedgeknight, but I've been doing the same.
Will gladly adapt to the on-site dice roller.
Just checking in - was able to get home a little early - will have to head back for a few hours tonight.

Neil Spicer Contributor, RPG Superstar 2009, RPG Superstar Judgernaut |

Neil, you heard anything?
All is silent on the western front...
Or, in my case, the eastern front, since I live on the East Coast. :-)
Sometimes disappearances like these are the result of a loss of internet access. I'm hoping it's something like that...otherwise, I'm at a loss to explain the lack of contact.

hedgeknight |

Well...this is not good. Everyone has a computer crash now and then, but there are many venues to access a computer to fire off a few emails and posts if you have obligations:
- work
- public library
- friend
- computer cafe/bar
Perhaps David is very sick and that would make sense in not being able to get online. Otherwise, I don't understand his absence.

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I sent a quick email asking David to let us know if everything is okay. I hope that it is.
No word by email yet either.
I'm inclined to wait till Sunday and then start generating a Plan B (even if that's just explicitly putting the game on hold). I still hope that it won't come to that, but what do you think?

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I'm inclined to wait till Sunday and then start generating a Plan B (even if that's just explicitly putting the game on hold). I still hope that it won't come to that, but what do you think?
Sounds good. I'm not going anywhere.
As has been said, it would be nice just to get some word that he and/or his loved ones are okay.
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Well, it's Sunday and still no DM. Now what, fellers?
Here are some alternatives:
(1) One of us provisionally runs the adventure till Doc returns. I like this option because I like the group's dynamic so far. However, as I don't have the adventure and definitely don't have the time to DM a PbP, for me it's the "bell the cat" scenario.
(2) Explicitly put the game on hold, at least till we hear from Doc, and go on our merry ways. I'd be a little bummed about this given the difficulty in finding (or more accurately, getting into) good PbPs. However, that's the way it goes sometimes.
(3) Put off any decision for another week. I'm not crazy about this option because if the game were dead, I'd like to find another.
(4) Find another PbP DM not in the group to run the game. This seems like a long shot unless one of you know a perfect candidate. Also, it would be a bit more awkward to adjudicate if Doc shows up tomorrow.
Anyhow, those were my ideas, but I'd welcome any comments or alternative suggestions.

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As has been said, it would be nice just to get some word that he and/or his loved ones are okay.
Yes. Actually, even if he tells us that he's not okay and catastrophe x is preventing him from running, I'd still like to know. But in that case, telling us may (understandably) have been triaged off his to-do list.

Neil Spicer Contributor, RPG Superstar 2009, RPG Superstar Judgernaut |

(1) One of us provisionally runs the adventure till Doc returns. I like this option because I like the group's dynamic so far....
This would require one of us to pick up "Mists of Mwangi" and either NPC their character through the adventure...or retire their character and continue with the rest of the party or invite another player into the mix. In addition, even after finishing "Mists of Mwangi" there would be a certain wait period until the first Serpent's Skull adventure gets released (in August?)...and again, the assumption that whoever takes up the GM reins sits their PC or NPCs him. I'm far more interested in playing than GMing, so that leaves me out.
(2) Explicitly put the game on hold, at least till we hear from Doc, and go on our merry ways....
I don't expect we'll hear from Doc. Usually when a GM disappears like this it's indicative that he wasn't prepared for the commitment required to run a PbP game. I believe this was Doc's first run at it. So, I suspect he may have just found it wasn't for him and maybe he didn't know how to tell us he was ending it, so he just walked away?
(3) Put off any decision for another week....
This is no different than what we're doing now. Eventually, we're going to need to voluntarily call it off unless Doc returns. I don't expect him to...so I've been using the reprieve to work on some other things...i.e., I have a writing assignment to pursue at the moment.
(4) Find another PbP DM not in the group to run the game. This seems like a long shot unless one of you know a perfect candidate....
I've played with several other PbP GMs here on Paizo's messageboards and they're very good. Most are already stretched thin, though. And I don't know if any of them even own "Mists of Mwangi" or would be willing to pick up a copy. They may not have an interest in running Serpent's Skull either, and I was looking forward to experiencing that AP as a player. You could actually advertise in the Gamer Connection forum as a group of players seeking a replacement GM. I've seen some players have success with that approach before.
Anyhow, those were my ideas, but I'd welcome any comments or alternative suggestions.
There's also the possibility of keeping the current crop of players together, but scrapping the "Mists of Mwangi" adventure and Serpent's Skull AP in order to run something else. That way, if someone in the group has another adventure they'd be more comfortable GMing, they could run that for everyone else. It may or may not require generating different characters, though. But it's another alternative, at least...
My two-cents,
--Neil

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I'm game for whatever, to be honest. I don't have the time to run another PbP, but I hate that this one is DOA. This was a good group. If we relocate, I can certainly play in another, but I just am not in a position to run another.
I feel the same way. I'd like to continue somehow, but definitely don't have time to run the game myself.

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Eric Zylstra wrote:(1) One of us provisionally runs the adventure till Doc returns. I like this option because I like the group's dynamic so far.......I'm far more interested in playing than GMing, so that leaves me out.
I too am unwilling to bell the cat. Given that at least 3/5 of us feel this way, (1) is looking increasingly unlikely.
I've played with several other PbP GMs here on Paizo's messageboards and they're very good. . . . They may not have an interest in running Serpent's Skull either, and I was looking forward to experiencing that AP...
Your suggestion about putting a group request on the Gamer Connection thread is a good idea if we decide to go with option (4).
If we took Neil's option (5) (same party, different AP or adventure), I'd be most interested in Kingmaker or Legacy of Fire, though the other APs all could be interesting.

hedgeknight |

Doc is not coming back, not even to apologize for bailing on us. I've been in several pbp's where the DM just disappeared; it's easy to do online especially when no one knows you. And IF that is what he did, and I say IF, then he's a coward and a pussy. He could have at least had the balls to say he was in over his head and just couldn't do it.
As for all of the options, I really don't care at this point. I'm so pissed off at being in this position, YET AGAIN, that I'm good for whatever or nothing. In my pbp experience for the past decade, you rarely find a DM who is willing to take on an entire group and run a game. Most DM's like to choose their players and put together a group of their own. If we were at a Con this would work, but online...not so much.
Sorry to be such a pessimist but like I said, I've seen this happen way too often in pbp games. So, I'll lurk and wait; whatever you fellers decide is fine with me.

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Well, I hate to see the group die. But, as with everyone else, I don't think I can make the commitment to do this and do it well.
I will still be here. Though I haven't posted all that much lately, I'm checking back here two or three times a day.
I hope we get this thing going again, though I too doubt it. If not, I hope to see you (and your characters) again on the boards.

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. . . I've been in several pbp's where the DM just disappeared; it's easy to do online especially when no one knows you. . . .
I hate it when people vanish too. I'd prefer Doc's vanishing out of flakiness to Doc's vanishing because of a major family tragedy, but if it's the former, posting a brief explanation would be much better form.
So option (1) is out, and it sounds as if (5) is out too because none of us wants to GM. So, do we (a) bow out or (b) advertise for a new GM? I lean toward the latter, but am not sure of the best way to get a good GM.

Neil Spicer Contributor, RPG Superstar 2009, RPG Superstar Judgernaut |

For now, I'm leaning toward bowing out unless another GM steps forward fairly soon. Somewhere down the line, I probably will run a PbP game, something shorter than an AP like a standalone module (maybe Realm of the Fellnight Queen linked up with some director's cut material and the prequel adventure I'm putting together for PaizoCon), but not while I'm under a writing deadline. By bowing out of this game, it also frees me from the outside distraction and should hopefully help me finish the current writing assignment faster...so I can eventually run that type of game. But I'll keep an eye here on the thread just to see how things turn out.
My two-cents,
--Neil

hedgeknight |

It's too bad all of us don't live close together - then at least we could get together once a month or so and have a mammoth Saturday/Sunday gaming session. I also wish I could run this game, but my knowledge of Pathfinder is minimal at best - still working my way through the Core Rulebook; it's a lot for this ol' timer to digest. :)

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. . . Somewhere down the line, I probably will run a PbP game, something shorter than an AP like a standalone module (maybe Realm of the Fellnight Queen linked up with some director's cut material and the prequel adventure I'm putting together for PaizoCon) . . . .
Sounds cool, especially the "director's cut" stuff.

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Hey, Sully: I've been lurking on your very active Kingmaker PbP thread. Do you have any ideas for good, non-overcommitted GM prospects? (Just to be clear, this is not an "indirect communication" attempt to strong-arm you into GMing: I just thought that you might know somebody.)
I can also post on the Gamer Connection for us tomorrow--assuming that the consensus is to try that. My impression is that people feel mildly positive about this option, but no one has a lot of hope that it will happen.
Alternatively, the GM of my prior CotCT PbP has indicated that he will revive it, and I'm not sure that all the players will be coming back. If the Gamer Connection option fails and some of you are interested, I can ask him about letting you join. I'm somewhat more in favor of GM-fishing to keep the Serpent's Skull option open, but I thought that I'd throw it out there.
Here's the thread to that CoCT PbP if you're interested:
The Cap's Alpha Test.

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I can also post on the Gamer Connection for us tomorrow--assuming that the consensus is to try that. My impression is that people feel mildly positive about this option, but no one has a lot of hope that it will happen.
I would certainly be interested in playing if another GM came along, and therefore would fully support a "gaming group seeking GM" post.

Sully |

I'm still laughing that I posted in this thread as DM Sully...
I've got too many avatars at this point!
I know that one of the players in my group is running a CotCT campaign to catch the overflow from the one I've been organizing, but I don't know of anyone else on the boards who wants to run a game and currently is not.

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It's up.
Looking for PbP DM For Serpent's Skull Prequel and AP
If any of you have ideas for another forum or thread that would be appropriate, go for it. Also, I'll try to track the thread, but if you see that I haven't responded to a post, please feel free.

DM Berwick |

Hello there.
I have posted this in the other thread for your consideration, but I just wanted to pop in here, and set my offer here for you as well.
First, I would like to say that I sincerely hope the Doc is okay.
I would like to apply for the job of DM.
I have been gaming for 13 years, have been DM'ing for 10, and have run just about everything under the sun as far as systems go.
The one sticky wicket here, is that I have never DM'd a PbP. I know that there are several differences between this and actual table-top, but I would like to try this if y'all are willing.
I have the adventure you are running through currently, and I am interested by the possibilities that the upcoming AP has to provide.
If chosen, I can commit to running this all the way through, and will provide personal contact information so that these kind of things may be avoided in the future.
Please let me know if you are so interested.
Wow...almost harder applying for this than any of the player positions...
Anyway, thank you for your time and patience once again.
DM Berwick

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I'll make it easy and drop out of contention. I felt sorry that you guys had made characters and gone through all that and wanted to help you out, but it looks like you guys will be fine and in good hands with DM Berwick, so have fun!
Lucendar has bowed out, so it looks like DM Berwick is our man. Welcome aboard, DM Berwick!
Do you have any questions for us about our characters or our/your expectations for the PbP?
I think one expectation that I have is that we each should try hard to mention if we'll be out of circulation for more than a day or two. This is probably obvious, but I thought that I'd make it explicit.
As for the game itself, I suggest (1) DM rolling of all characters' initiatives; and (2) in-combat selection of a character's actions by the DM/another designated player if someone is out of the loop for >12 or 24 hours. In my past experience, combat can slow a PbP to a crawl, and I think that kills games.
I'm also up for some eliding of, e.g., scouting (when appropriate) to minimize the collective twiddling of thumbs waiting for Jonagher to come back.

DM Berwick |

Well,
I certainly appreciate the vote of confidence, but I would still prefer to hear from you all as far as a vote up or down. I feel that it is important that you all get to choose regardless, and if any of you feel that I am not up to snuff, I would bow out gracefully. This seems like a first for me...a DM walking into an established campaign. So, I do not really know how to proceed.
I will stand by until 1200 06 May 2010 PST.
Also, please explain the term eliding?
As in:
As for the game itself, I suggest (1) DM rolling of all characters' initiatives; and (2) in-combat selection of a character's actions by the DM/another designated player if someone is out of the loop for >12 or 24 hours. In my past experience, combat can slow a PbP to a crawl, and I think that kills games.
I have more questions for the group, but they are inconsequential until the vote is cast.
Thank you for your confidence, and I will write again tomorrow.
DM Berwick
EDIT: Added the part about the quote