If you have the poison use class ability and then gain natural attacks either through Alter self or in the case of an alchemist Feral Mutagen can you add poison to the attacks.
For instance you have 2 claws and a bite with no natural poison can you add poison to any of your natural weapons or do they have to be regular weapons?
Thanks.
If you have the poison use class ability and then gain natural attacks either through Alter self or in the case of an alchemist Feral Mutagen can you add poison to the attacks.
For instance you have 2 claws and a bite with no natural poison can you add poison to any of your natural weapons or do they have to be regular weapons?
Thanks.
Uhm... I don't know about anyone else, but applying a poison to a bite attack sounds to me like a Very Bad Idea (tm). Unless there's specialized equipment like a false tooth or something involved.
Injury poisons you might be able to get away with on claws, but contact poisons are right out. I'd probably up the chances of you poisoning yourself though, perhaps on a natural 2-3. That's obviously a house rule though.
If you have the poison use class ability and then gain natural attacks either through Alter self or in the case of an alchemist Feral Mutagen can you add poison to the attacks.
For instance you have 2 claws and a bite with no natural poison can you add poison to any of your natural weapons or do they have to be regular weapons?
Thanks.
Uhm... I don't know about anyone else, but applying a poison to a bite attack sounds to me like a Very Bad Idea (tm). Unless there's specialized equipment like a false tooth or something involved.
Injury poisons you might be able to get away with on claws, but contact poisons are right out. I'd probably up the chances of you poisoning yourself though, perhaps on a natural 2-3. That's obviously a house rule though.
I was just wondering if there is anything to stop you from putting poison on a natural weapon. I understand that there could be a chance of poison your self on attacks. However at level 10 an alchemist becomes completely immune to poison so at that point there isn't any danger just the trying to find the rule of using poison on natural weapons.
I agree, with contact poison you will poison yourself and an increased chance of poisoning yourself with injury poison. But if your immune to poisons i don't see any reason at all why you couldn't apply poison to your natural weapons.
Thanks that what I was thinking but was just checking to see if I missed something in the wording of "Weapon" vs "Natural Weapon".
Deadly Scratch (Ex) A catfolk rogue with this talent can apply poison to her claws without accidentally poisoning herself. A catfolk rogue must have the cat's claws racial trait and the poison use class feature before taking this talent.
So, I assume that if you need this feat to apply poison to your claws as a catfolk without accidentally poisoning yourself, you cannot apply poison to natural weapons without occurring the poison chance.
But the character in question is an alchemist, who has the poison use ability, which is exactly like the above ability except it stops you from accidentally poisoning yourself for applying to any weapon.
So would that mean that it works fine for an alchemist too?
Deadly Scratch (Ex) A catfolk rogue with this talent can apply poison to her claws without accidentally poisoning herself. A catfolk rogue must have the cat's claws racial trait and the poison use class feature before taking this talent.
So, I assume that if you need this feat to apply poison to your claws as a catfolk without accidentally poisoning yourself, you cannot apply poison to natural weapons without occurring the poison chance.
But the character in question is an alchemist, who has the poison use ability, which is exactly like the above ability except it stops you from accidentally poisoning yourself for applying to any weapon.
So would that mean that it works fine for an alchemist too?
It is required to have the Poison Use class feature to take that talent. That would seem to imply that Poison Use is not enough.
That being said, there have been worthless feats/talents in the past (Prone Shooter, for example). It should not be used as the sole-deciding factor, if you ask me.
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There have been worthless feats when the text is clear. I'm not convinced the text is clear here. I see this as an additional talent. The whole point behind poison use is about not accidentally poisoning yourself when applying poison....to objects. Applying it to claws for a feat seems right to me. Applying it to softer or absorb ant body parts really seems problematic.
Finally, how would you view this for an alchemist cat folk, given the rule?
Finally, how would you view this for an alchemist cat folk, given the rule?
As something that is redundant.
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There are reasons for why the alchemist gets poison immunity at level 10....
Once you are immune to poison, then feel free to bath in poison for all it matters. Apply it to your bite attacks by spreading it on your toast in the morning.