What to do? (Bahor defeated)

[fray]

Ok, my party, Team Home Invasion Local 63, went through the place and confronted Bahor. My fighter decided to end the conversation and Initiative was rolled. I don't think I've ever seen so many 20's in one battle. SR was overcome all 3 times too.

So, anywho... the party wants to rest before going

Spoiler:

into the dungeon.

Question:

Bahor's sister and the other raksasha know he's dead. If the party leaves to rest, does the manor 'reset' with reinforcements? Or does Bahor's sister just bail and take Vincarlo and the senshal with her?

I have some time to prep for the next game and would love some ideas.

kthxbai

[Charles Evans 25]

Spoiler:

Well it might take some time for Vimanda to consolidate her position, so the party could rest, come back, find the place otherwise deserted and go through the dungeon as normal (only without Vimanda fighting them) to rescue the prisoners. (Further thought: Red Mantis assassins could be on the PCs' tails throughout the dungeon instead, if you wanted to put a common-enemy thing in place; maybe when the PCs emerge they find the rakshasas have taken care of a couple more Red Mantis assassins.)
Then they emerge to find Vimanda and a large number of rakshasas waiting for them.
"Thank-you.", says Vimanda. "You can leave any House Arkona valuables you've looted right there, and certain things that you've discovered can remain our little secret. As to whatever plots the lord had which involved keeping those men hostage, I have no interest in them, and you may take them away with you if you so wish..."
Vimanda might figure (unless the party are really operating under 'it's a monster, kill it' mode) that so long as the party figures they can blackmail her with the secret of the Arkona family they might leave the Arkonas alone once they have rescued their friends, and try to call in favours later. Which may or may not be fine with her, but they have done her a favour after all by removing Bahor...
Well that's just one possible way a devious rakshasa might think. I'm not sure if she'd try to enforce a promise of silence from the PCs with anything like a geas or magically binding treaty. (I think there was something useful in the Cheliax book, with regard to the latter.)

[fray]

Charles that is a good idea.
Also brings up a question I had not thought of...

rules question:

Do raksashas return to their natural form when killed?

[Charles Evans 25]

fray wrote:

Charles that is a good idea.

Also brings up a question I had not thought of...
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(edited)

Good question. :-?

Spoiler:

I assume a Change Shape will wear off at some point, but I've no idea how long, or if it varies with edition...

[Studpuffin]

@fray

Are you running this 3.5 or Pathfinder?

Spoiler:

If its Pathfinder the Rakshasa's change shape functions just like Alter Self with the same duration.

[James Jacobs]

As a general rule... something that's in another shape reverts to its true form if it's killed. A slain rakshasa reverts to its animal-head form.

[Studpuffin]

James Jacobs wrote:

As a general rule... something that's in another shape reverts to its true form if it's killed. A slain rakshasa reverts to its animal-head form.

Sweet! Good to know.

Are there exceptions to this? Something that retains its form if killed?

[fray]

Thanks James.

[James Jacobs]

Studpuffin wrote:

James Jacobs wrote:

As a general rule... something that's in another shape reverts to its true form if it's killed. A slain rakshasa reverts to its animal-head form.

Sweet! Good to know.

Are there exceptions to this? Something that retains its form if killed?

If there are exceptions, it'd be noted in the monster's entry. I can't think of any exceptions off the top of my head, since if a monster NEVER changes back to its true form, why use a shapechanger in the first place? Why not just use the monster it's changed into?

[Studpuffin]

Hehe, good point!

[Studpuffin]

LOL,

For James:

I mentioned this to my girlfriend and she told me about one of the encounters at the beginning of SCAP with an ogre... that was actually an otyugh. What's up with that one?

[Davelozzi]

James Jacobs wrote:

I can't think of any exceptions off the top of my head

Lyncanthrope is the exception.

Bestiary wrote:

A slain lycanthrope reverts to its humanoid form, although it remains dead.

I remember being surprised when I read it as I would have picture it turning into its hybrid form, thereby exposing the beast that was hidden in the midst of society.

[Tiger Lily]

Davelozzi wrote:

Bestiary wrote:

A slain lycanthrope reverts to its humanoid form, although it remains dead.

I remember being surprised when I read it as I would have picture it turning into its hybrid form, thereby exposing the beast that was hidden in the midst of society.

Actually, it makes sense as is, with the idea that lycanthropy is at its base a human tainted by the beast whether by virus or curse or however the game system you're using explains it. The human(oid) is what you start with... and what you revert to in death.