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The usage of the word Pagan seems to be used so generically these days that it's hard to tell which sect is being referenced to (kinda like Christianity, for instance). Perhaps Wiccan?Honestly, I have never before met anyone who was angry personally about the Salem Witch Trial. Just food for thought.The person in question is a pagan so that's why he took it so personally. You have to remember that he's young as well. His view has probably been influenced by older adults.
Exactly. I have several friends who define themselves generally as Pagan, but when I talk to them one is a Neo-Druid, on follows Paiute Pantheonism, another is a Nordic Pantheonist, and another is a self-described Warlock. I also discovered that pagens don't like haveing devil worshipers lumped in with them because "they are just anti-Christians."
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Ah, I had gotten that part it was the other that I was struggling with. I wonder if Mair has the same bone to pick with him that I do.** spoiler omitted **Doesn't ring any bells.Somebody needs a kick in the ass.
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Oh yeah, the Salem Witch Trials are so worthy of comparison to the Holocaust.
Glad to see academic malpractice has made its way out into the wider world.
If he wanted to draw the analogy, the Inquisition would have been better, although still not the same when all is said and done.
Rolls eyes I don't think that is an excuse. I understand the mindset, my grandmother from Georgia threatened to write me out of the will if I kept dating this one girl who's last name was Sherman. But I'm not personally angry for my Scottish ancesters getting driven out and shipped to the U.S. as punishment for supporting Bonny Prince Charles.Honestly, I have never before met anyone who was angry personally about the Salem Witch Trial. Just food for thought.The person in question is a pagan so that's why he took it so personally. You have to remember that he's young as well. His views have probably been influenced by older adults.
I didn't say it was an excuse. I was just trying to tell you why he feels the way he does. Damn David. Don't be so irritable.
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I didn't say it was an excuse. I was just trying to tell you why he feels the way he does. Damn David. Don't be so irritable.Rolls eyes I don't think that is an excuse. I understand the mindset, my grandmother from Georgia threatened to write me out of the will if I kept dating this one girl who's last name was Sherman. But I'm not personally angry for my Scottish ancesters getting driven out and shipped to the U.S. as punishment for supporting Bonny Prince Charles.Honestly, I have never before met anyone who was angry personally about the Salem Witch Trial. Just food for thought.The person in question is a pagan so that's why he took it so personally. You have to remember that he's young as well. His views have probably been influenced by older adults.
Sorry, lack of sleep does that to me.
Sorry, lack of sleep does that to me.
No problem. :)
Hpw's this thread going? nGetting closer to shut down?Don't you have a magazine to finish? :)
*shameful grin*
Is 99.99% done! I'm waiting good news from Crystal today
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*eats Garydee's brain*
Ghost post*eats Garydee's brain*
Sorry buddy. There isn't anything there for you to eat. ;)
*is hungry*
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So I end up going to the wrong doctor's office and when I get to the right place, ten minutes after I was scheduled for they tell me, "We already put you down as a no show. Could you come back at 2:15 when we have an openning?" So I am going back at 2:15 and if thy don't see me right away I'll be pretty pissed off.
Is David around? Or some other 4e insider? I have a question.
EDIT: Oh good, I see you.
In what 4e books could I read more about the Raven Queen? I looked at the copy at the bookstore and saw one page that had about a paragraph on her in the PH. Anywhere else you'd recommend I look?
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Is David around? Or some other 4e insider? I have a question.
Speak grasshopper.
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The best source of info is, I'm afraid, probably not avalible to you. There was a full length article on her in Dungeon 171. Beyond that there isn't much written about her. She is the patron of the Shadar-Kai and will be detailed much more if they ever do a Shadowfell book. The adventure "Death's Reach" has an encounter with her, but not much detail.
I stuck my question in the edit above. Also, CH if you're around, feel free to weigh-in.
Where's Vomit Guy when we need him?So Moorluck will be doing product demos? EWWWWWWWWWW!Ok...last time. No product demos!!! Thats what taking them home to honey is for! ;)Someone should do product demonstration vlogs from the storewebsite. :PSpeaking of sharing, are you going to share pictures of your new store once you move in and do your touches to the place?Of course, when its done. :D
Sorry I'm late.
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Where's Vomit Guy when we need him?So Moorluck will be doing product demos? EWWWWWWWWWW!Ok...last time. No product demos!!! Thats what taking them home to honey is for! ;)Someone should do product demonstration vlogs from the storewebsite. :PSpeaking of sharing, are you going to share pictures of your new store once you move in and do your touches to the place?Of course, when its done. :DSorry I'm late.
It's Ok, better late than.... no actually in this case never would be better. ;)
how is everybody today
Is David around? Or some other 4e insider? I have a question.Speak grasshopper.
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The best source of info is, I'm afraid, probably not avalible to you. There was a full length article on her in Dungeon 171. Beyond that there isn't much written about her. She is the patron of the Shadar-Kai and will be detailed much more if they ever do a Shadowfell book. The adventure "Death's Reach" has an encounter with her, but not much detail.
Is Death's Reach a module? I guess if I found it in the store, it'd be shrink-wrapped, anyway.
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Is Death's Reach a module? I guess if I found it in the store, it'd be shrink-wrapped, anyway.Is David around? Or some other 4e insider? I have a question.Speak grasshopper.
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The best source of info is, I'm afraid, probably not avalible to you. There was a full length article on her in Dungeon 171. Beyond that there isn't much written about her. She is the patron of the Shadar-Kai and will be detailed much more if they ever do a Shadowfell book. The adventure "Death's Reach" has an encounter with her, but not much detail.
It is and it will be.
Goooooooooooood afternoon.
What'd I miss?
It just occured to me that this thread, arguably the most juvinille place here at times, is also the haunt for some of the most intellegent, well mannered folks on the boards.Looks over his shoulder to see who Moorluck is speaking about
I see I arrived just in time! :-D
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I stuck my question in the edit above. Also, CH if you're around, feel free to weigh-in.
To add to what David said, there is also some additional bits of information about her in other published sources.
The Manual of the Planes has some information about her in its section on the Shadowfell, where she resides. I believe either Primal Power or Divine Power has some sidebars that deal with the Divine War, and get into how she attained godhood when the previous god of death was overthrown. If I get a chance this evening, I will see if I can scrounge up some page numbers.
It just occured to me that this thread, arguably the most juvinille place here at times, is also the haunt for some of the most intellegent, well mannered folks on the boards.
That's what you think.
[unzips, pulls out, & slaps LPM in the back of the head]
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Goooooooooooood afternoon.
What'd I miss?
Well, Alicia was determined to confront Amy over her lies about Fernando. Meanwhile, Eric, tired of being judged for the love he shared with a muskrat, decided to start a national campaign to bring attention to his plight. Across town, however, the vile Dr. Leskiw was completing the construction of his latest deadly invention - the Cyberpenguin, designed to...no wait! That's my soap opera.
Goooooooooooood afternoon.
What'd I miss?
I still need that link you were going to send my way. <hint, hint>
Did the occurrence hurt, Moorluck?
David,[edit: and thanks, CH!] I found some people blogging about the Raven Queen, so that gives me some info. I had an inspiration and I'm trying to see if the material is there to develop it. I like having some planar locations common to different settings we game in, and it seems like folks agree that Ravenloft, along with the City of Brass, should be one of those locations (although, one guy doesn't want RL touching his home world, which is okay.) In coming up with an in-world explanation for Ravenloft, I made the mental connection that one of the few 4e ideas that really appealed to me was the new figure of the Raven Queen. I was looking at my planar and deity notes, and there's no real place for another deity or major fiend, for that matter, in the legendarium. Then I thought, what if the demi-plane had been created by the death of the goddess of death? Maybe she even has some shadow existence as a vestige...
Here's a potential explanation for the tearing of planes and the creation of the demi-plane, the raven association, the forgetting of the RQ's name, and perhaps even the nature of the mists.
*is hungry*Maybe we need to reanimate our other thread and lure some fresh vict....I mean lure some new, living friends in.
Mmmmm... Living friends....
I still need that link you were going to send my way. <hint, hint>Goooooooooooood afternoon.
What'd I miss?
AH, don't worry I didn't forget. Will send ASAP. It's a hilarious webcomic. Just provide a link to the post that I thought it was relevant to.
It frightens me to think of how many pages I'm gonna have to read after missing a whole day. Guess I better get to it. :)
AH, don't worry I didn't forget. Will send ASAP. It's a hilarious webcomic. Just provide a link to the post that I thought it was relevant to.I still need that link you were going to send my way. <hint, hint>Goooooooooooood afternoon.
What'd I miss?
I stuck my question in the edit above. Also, CH if you're around, feel free to weigh-in.To add to what David said, there is also some additional bits of information about her in other published sources.
The Manual of the Planes has some information about her in its section on the Shadowfell, where she resides. I believe either Primal Power or Divine Power has some sidebars that deal with the Divine War, and get into how she attained godhood when the previous god of death was overthrown. If I get a chance this evening, I will see if I can scrounge up some page numbers.
More specifically, how she managed to take over Nerull's position is in Divine Power.
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Raven Queen? Is that a Ravenloft thing? Or am I better off not knowing?4e core deity. Really a reset on Wee Jas, in my opinion, but still one of the more interesting deities in the pantheon.
Edit: Ha... You can try to delete your post, but it's captured for eternity now.
I realized that it was 4E and figured I'd better delete my post before I invited increased commentary. Damn your strong reply-fu, Wing Boy!
4e core deity. Really a reset on Wee Jas, in my opinion, but still one of the more interesting deities in the pantheon.
Is it just me or when everytime I see the name if this particular deity, I think Huge Ass and chuckle to myself maniacally that would rival Beavis and Butthead?
AZ, the Raven Queen appears to be the enemy of Orcus and all Undeath. I'd draw a parallel between you, 4e...[explodes into flames]
4e core deity. Really a reset on Wee Jas, in my opinion, but still one of the more interesting deities in the pantheon.Is it just me or when everytime I see the name if this particular deity, I think Huge Ass and chuckle to myself maniacally that would rival Beavis and Butthead?
[comicbookguy]Worst D&D deity name, ever.[/comicbookguy]