There'll be some templates in Bestairy 2. Probably something around 6 or so, like in the first Bestiary. Templates are cool... but they're also a lot of work and don't really lend themselves well to a bestiary. Now... a big book of monster templates? That'd be a different story...I know it's unlikely, but is there any way we can get an idea of what kind of templates. I'm just curious as to whether or not there will be a winged template in B2. It was a template from the Savage Species book and was one of my favorites.
My GM about 3 years ago ran a game for me where i played a winged elf (elf with winged template) and i stated up a fighter with nothing but archer feats. One - that was one of my favorite characters ever and Two - i would love to bring that character back into Pathfinder with new fighter!
Pathfinder is backwards compatible, what's wrong with just using the Winged template from Savage Species with Pathfinder? It's not different than using a 3rd party book with 3.5e
Titans will indeed be in the Bestiary. We've already revealed some information about titans in "The Great Beyond." They won't be 250+ feet tall, though—that's not really workable in Pathfinder, really. But the titans ARE going to be pretty tough customers... we haven't worked out the details yet though so no news to report yet. Ask again late next year, maybe?
See, that's something I always hoped Paizo would break that WotC refused to break in 3.5e
I was pretty peeved at the Space changes made from 3.0 to 3.5e. Mainly because I knew they only did it to appease their Miniatures line. The spaces of monsters that are supposed to truly be Gargantuan or Colossal shrunk down immensely. Rarely did you see any Colossal creature over 30 ft. space. Sometimes the spaces made no sense, like creatures that were described to be over 100 ft. long but always manage to fit into a 30 ft. space, even while moving!
It's hardly a size change when the difference between a Huge, Gargantuan, or Colossal is a mere 5 or 10 ft. in height/width/length. When I picture Colossal, I am talking PCs fighting beasts as large as the creature from the movie Cloverfield. Not something the size of a T-Rex or a little larger than an elephant.
What made it worse was when the creature's actual size made no sense on the battlemap. I remember in Dungeon Magazine #100, in "Beast of Burden", the kadtanach had a Space of 60 ft. (one of the rare instances WotC wasn't afraid to go past 30 ft. with Colossal). But even still, it wasn't large enough to house that entire complex on its back that I saw in the maps. Which made no sense.
Paizo isn't catering to a miniatures line (I hope) and so I am hoping you break this trend. Having players face something truly Colossal (60 ft. space, even possible a 100 ft. space!) is what being a powerful hero is all about, especially in the really high to epic-levels. I miss those 2e Gargantua creatures, where there really were monsters over 300 ft. tall. The Corpse Tearer was about 300 ft. long. The great wyrm dragons of 2E were even over 200 ft. long.
In the end, I just don't understand the fear of making creatures truly awesome in size (and, hence, climactic as an end encounter or whatever). It's harder when you have players that watch movies, play video games and japanese anime and see truly majestically large creatures and then angrily turn to me, the DM (as if I ran WotC/Paizo or something), and ask why the hell they don't fight creatures that large? Clearly, I have no real answer to that.
Point is, don't be afraid of 250 ft. elder titans.
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We have actually done several encounters with truly enormous monsters in our modules and in Pathfinder Adventure Paths. But at a certain point, a monster becomes so huge that it ceases being a monster and starts acting more like terrain or a weather condition or a natural disaster, and that means running it in a different way entirely.
I need whole lot of prehistoric mammals for my next campaign, like bear dogs,
Why not use...
a wolf
or heck, just use a standard dog and give it a template. The extinct Tahltan bear dog was only 15 lbs and 15" tall on average. You could give it the Advanced template and give it the combat training from handle animal.
hyaenadons,
Use dire hyena or an actual hyaenadon?
cave lions
Why not use dire lion?
and similar creatures.
Like these?
and maybe even throw in a neanderthal human?
And don't forget all of the standard dinosaurs like ankylosaurus, brachiosaurus, deinonychus, elasmosaurus, megaraptor, plesiosaurus, pteranodon, stegosaurus, triceratops, tyrannosaurus, velociraptor etc...
All of which are both in the PRD and on d20pfsrd.com.
Throw in some standard other creatures, maybe some plants with advanced or giant templates... and you have a prehistoric campaign.. or at least a really well stocked adventure.
Am I the only one who thinks that "mastodon" is the correct spelling?
Nope; you're not the only one. :P
Add another reason why we love Paizo -- and accepteth no substitutes.
Am I the only one who thinks that "mastodon" is the correct spelling?
Oops! This is now fixed on d20pfsrd.com (for whomever cares!)
And thus did jreyst summon the Power Rangers...
Heh (funny, but not sure I get it lol)
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(I didn't read thru the entire thread)
Is the Bestiary going to include the new monsters from the various Adventure paths?
Some of them, yes. The first Bestiary actually does this already; the boggard, goblin dog, and shaitan (and perhaps a few others) were from Pathfinder APs, after all. With Bestiary 2 having fewer SRD monsters to cover, there'll be a lot more monsters picked up from Pathfinder APs, and a lot more actually brand new monsters as well.
More Amphibians.
-Water Leaper. Grippli. Liu Hai's three-legged toad.
Tapa-tapa(Čapek's Newtling). Dire Salamander(Eryops, Koolasuchus, and so on).
Vodianoi. Kappa. Hanzaki. Tsathoggua.
Advanced Bestiary is one of the best OGL books ever. We use it ALL the time in Pathfinder Adventure Paths and modules.* sigh *
If only print copies were still available!
Actually....This may be useful for you.
Actually....This may be useful for you.
Yeah, I saw that Amazon would send me a paperback for $40 + shipping, too. I should have specified "a reasonablt-priced print version." I'll spend $35 for a hardcover of something that would otherwise fall apart under heavy use, but not for a softcover that I'll be afraid to use.
Ive mentioned this elsewhere but some ideas of mine follow
Daemons (aka yugoloths and can we give them some personality and goals this time?)
Formians
Gem dragons (after the Psionics book)
Guardianals (see Daemons)
Lizardfolk variants
Lycanthropes (wereshark and raven to name a few)
Modrons!
More clockwork monsters (maybe even a clockwork template similar to the effigy one?)
More golems (Alchemical, gear, and paper to name a few)
More Sea monsters
New dinosaurs
New Inevitables
Rilmani (by another name/look if necessary)
Planetouched for Elemental, Lawful, chaotic, and neautral denizens
Prehistoric creatures (megalodon, sabre tooth tiger, etc)
Psychic monsters!
Sladdi (by another name/look)
Spellweavers (or something equivalent and more flavorful)
Wemic's! (yes the Lion like Centaurs)