[4 Winds Fantasy Gaming] Paths of Power: A Sourcebook of Base & Prestige Classes in late October


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hunter1828 wrote:
Lyingbastard wrote:
(You should have seen my original workup of the Gladiator!)
We just won't talk about that... LOL!

Yeah, it was a tad imbalanced...


hunter1828 wrote:

And it's now listed for pre-order at Barnes & Noble.com as well!

In addition, B&N.com also already has our January 2010 release - Luven Lightfinger's Gear & Treasure Shop - listed for pre-order!

I preordered this book from Barnes and Noble last week and just received a notice from them that my order is cancelled because they cannot fulfill it.


Elijah Snow wrote:
I preordered this book from Barnes and Noble last week and just received a notice from them that my order is canceled because they cannot fulfill it.

You'll need to contact B&N about that and ask them why. I don't know why they can't fulfill it.

You can always preorder it through IPR (which has not canceled any of the preorders through them for the book).

Robert Thomson
4 Winds Fantasy Gaming


hunter1828 wrote:
FenrysStar wrote:
The first two books you did positively impressed me.

Thanks! We appreciate that!

Not a problem and I just pre-ordered a copy of Paths of Power. I look forward to seeing this soon.


FenrysStar wrote:
Not a problem and I just pre-ordered a copy of Paths of Power. I look forward to seeing this soon.

Good deal!


hunter1828 wrote:
FenrysStar wrote:
Not a problem and I just pre-ordered a copy of Paths of Power. I look forward to seeing this soon.
Good deal!

I hope so. I've been taking part in the open playtest of the Advanced Player's Guide as well so there may be some comparison by me of the two types of witches. In the one campaign I was planning I was working out Witch as a Sorcerer bloodline though...

Scarab Sages

I looked at IPR but shipping costs to Australia are WAY too high.


hunter1828 wrote:
I assume you are asking about Luven Lightfinger's Gear & Treasure Shop? It will be a catalog of new gear, armor, weapons, alchemical items, clothing, and magic items. We'll be doing an official (more detailed) announcement on it around the time PoP is released in a couple of weeks.

Ah! Ah! Will it be anything like Aurora's Whole Realms Catalogue? That was the greatest book ever written.

PoP also sounds very interesting though.


FenrysStar wrote:
I hope so. I've been taking part in the open playtest of the Advanced Player's Guide as well so there may be some comparison by me of the two types of witches. In the one campaign I was planning I was working out Witch as a Sorcerer bloodline though...

I think folks will like our Witch class. She's heavily rooted in real-world mythology & folklore, as well as classic fantasy witches.


Masika wrote:

I looked at IPR but shipping costs to Australia are WAY too high.

The print edition will soon be available at the Paizo store, which will hopefully be a better choice for you.


BabaNabi wrote:
hunter1828 wrote:
I assume you are asking about Luven Lightfinger's Gear & Treasure Shop? It will be a catalog of new gear, armor, weapons, alchemical items, clothing, and magic items. We'll be doing an official (more detailed) announcement on it around the time PoP is released in a couple of weeks.
Ah! Ah! Will it be anything like Aurora's Whole Realms Catalogue? That was the greatest book ever written.

That particular book was a major influence in how we wanted to present LLG&TS, though it will be a standard size RPG book instead of digest size as Aurora's was. It will also include the standard tables for quickly finding the items.

BabaNabi wrote:
PoP also sounds very interesting though.

We believe folks will enjoy what they find in PoP, and hope you will as well.


Here is the Table of Contents for Paths of Power:

Introduction 4
Chapter 1 — Classes 5
Base Classes 6
NPC Classes 32
Prestige Classes 40
Chapter 2 — Skills & Feats 47
Skills 48
Feats 50
Chapter 3 — Spells 59
Spell Lists 60
Spell Descriptions 71
Chapter 4 — Equipment & Magic Items 77
Weapons 78
Armor 84
Goods & Gear 86
Magic Items 88
Chapter 5 — Organizations, Clubs, and Guilds 91
Adventurers’ Guild 92
Courtesans’ Guild 95
Dryad’s Wood Coven 96
Royal Order of the White Lions 98
Voyageurs’ Club 100
Open Game License 102

Dark Archive

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

Hmm interesting, well I am curious to check it out. Just have to wait for it to show up on paizo to save on shipping and handling.


Chapter 5 looks cool? Dryad's Wood Coven?


MerrikCale wrote:
Chapter 5 looks cool? Dryad's Wood Coven?

It's a witch coven. :)

Robert

Scarab Sages

hunter1828 wrote:
Masika wrote:

I looked at IPR but shipping costs to Australia are WAY too high.

The print edition will soon be available at the Paizo store, which will hopefully be a better choice for you.

Thanks I hope so.

Would love to pre order it here so I could get the PDF with it for free. :)


Masika wrote:
Would love to pre order it here so I could get the PDF with it for free. :)

Wherever you order it from, e-mail us (4WindsFantasyGaming [ at ] gmail [ dot ] com) with a copy of the order confirmation, and we'll get you a PDF version.

Robert


Dark_Mistress wrote:
Hmm interesting, well I am curious to check it out. Just have to wait for it to show up on paizo to save on shipping and handling.

Soon!


Thanks for posting the Table of Contents

I kept stumbling over the Chapter headings though, 'Wha?! Only one page for the classes?...oh...silly me...Wha?! Only one page for the skills and feats?...oh...duh...Wha?! Only one page on spells?...oh...I need to stop that...'


OK, suddenly I am VERY glad I made the decision to pre order this


BabaNabi wrote:

Thanks for posting the Table of Contents

I kept stumbling over the Chapter headings though, 'Wha?! Only one page for the classes?...oh...silly me...Wha?! Only one page for the skills and feats?...oh...duh...Wha?! Only one page on spells?...oh...I need to stop that...'

No problem! :D


FenrysStar wrote:
OK, suddenly I am VERY glad I made the decision to pre order this

And that makes us very happy!


Paths of Power shipped to Paizo and IPR yesterday.


hunter1828 wrote:
Paths of Power shipped to Paizo and IPR yesterday.

Hey, maybe mine will arrive before Thanksgiving or on Black Friday? I'm not holding my breath but I can dream...


FenrysStar wrote:
hunter1828 wrote:
Paths of Power shipped to Paizo and IPR yesterday.
Hey, maybe mine will arrive before Thanksgiving or on Black Friday? I'm not holding my breath but I can dream...

'

The sale date isn't until November 27, so you probably won't get it that quickly... But you might!


Now available in the Paizo.com store!


hunter1828 wrote:
Now available in the Paizo.com store!

Wha?! I also saw it at RPGNow and it says it's over 100 megs. Why is it so giant? That's the biggest PDF I've ever seen...or is that a total for multiple download options?


BabaNabi wrote:
Wha?! I also saw it at RPGNow and it says it's over 100 megs. Why is it so giant? That's the biggest PDF I've ever seen...or is that a total for multiple download options?

Really? Wow, it shouldn't be that huge a file. I'll check into that.

Robert


hunter1828 wrote:
BabaNabi wrote:
Wha?! I also saw it at RPGNow and it says it's over 100 megs. Why is it so giant? That's the biggest PDF I've ever seen...or is that a total for multiple download options?

Really? Wow, it shouldn't be that huge a file. I'll check into that.

Robert

It was the cover art. Wasn't properly resampled before saving the PDF. We'll be changing that and uploading new files...


hunter1828 wrote:
FenrysStar wrote:
hunter1828 wrote:
Paths of Power shipped to Paizo and IPR yesterday.
Hey, maybe mine will arrive before Thanksgiving or on Black Friday? I'm not holding my breath but I can dream...

'

The sale date isn't until November 27, so you probably won't get it that quickly... But you might!

As long as I get it in a timely manner I'm fine, I'm already through to the bestiary in the latest Pathfinder AP so I need another hit of book to keep the fire going within. Although granted if Nick Logue is done with Razor Coast and ready to ship the Pathfinder version soon I'll be as happy as the clam Pele sits on.


FenrysStar wrote:
As long as I get it in a timely manner I'm fine, I'm already through to the bestiary in the latest Pathfinder AP so I need another hit of book to keep the fire going within. Although granted if Nick Logue is done with Razor Coast and ready to ship the Pathfinder version soon I'll be as happy as the clam Pele sits on.

You should get it soon, now that the release date has come and gone!


Just ordered Paths of Power, along with the Book of Arcane Magic and the Book of Divine Magic. I eagerly look forward to receiving them!


hunter1828 wrote:
hunter1828 wrote:
BabaNabi wrote:
Wha?! I also saw it at RPGNow and it says it's over 100 megs. Why is it so giant? That's the biggest PDF I've ever seen...or is that a total for multiple download options?

Really? Wow, it shouldn't be that huge a file. I'll check into that.

Robert

It was the cover art. Wasn't properly resampled before saving the PDF. We'll be changing that and uploading new files...

Ah, good! My connection is so slow that I have to avoid really big files.


Draco Caeruleus wrote:
Just ordered Paths of Power, along with the Book of Arcane Magic and the Book of Divine Magic. I eagerly look forward to receiving them!

Thank you! We think you will enjoy them!


BabaNabi wrote:
Ah, good! My connection is so slow that I have to avoid really big files.

It should be taken care of later today or sometime tomorrow.


Well, I got my print copies already, and they are FANTASTIC. It's just a very good looking book, aside from all the brilliant content. The Witch class in particular has great depth and versatility, being both the midwife and herbalist healer, and the diabolical wielder of voodoo.


If you have the time and the inclination a review would be helpful. In particular I'd like to know how the two new witches compare to each other.


hunter1828 wrote:
FenrysStar wrote:
As long as I get it in a timely manner I'm fine, I'm already through to the bestiary in the latest Pathfinder AP so I need another hit of book to keep the fire going within. Although granted if Nick Logue is done with Razor Coast and ready to ship the Pathfinder version soon I'll be as happy as the clam Pele sits on.
You should get it soon, now that the release date has come and gone!

Which hopefully means the pre-order I had paid for has been shipped.


SilvercatMoonpaw wrote:
If you have the time and the inclination a review would be helpful. In particular I'd like to know how the two new witches compare to each other.

Sean won't review it, since he's a major contributing designer. Hopefully someone else will, though.


I am thinking I should have ordered this through Lulu or Paizo itself. I don't even know if IPR shipped it yet. I checked my account and all it really says is that they got the money with a tracking number of pop?

Dark Archive

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber
SilvercatMoonpaw wrote:
If you have the time and the inclination a review would be helpful. In particular I'd like to know how the two new witches compare to each other.

I plan to eventually review it, least that is my plan. But will see.

But to this question. I like both witches same as the Green Ronin one. I thought hexs was very interesting with the Paizo one. So I will hit a few key points below with personal comments.

They both have their own spell lists.
The 4 winds version is like a Sorc in that they are limited to the number of spells they can know and can cast like a Sorc, any of their known spells.
Skills, weapons, armor are all pretty similar.
The 4 winds version has a familiar but it is on par with the base Wizard one.

Now for a few things that only the 4 winds one has.
Broom - I am not sure how to describe it. They basically can do a number of special things with their broom depending on level. I suppose it fits but the fluff at points made picturing it a bit odd. Like sweeping out a dwelling that makes entrances have protection on them.

Circle Magic - This one I didn't care for, i think it had more potential for a much bigger variety. As it is, it is a variation of protection from Good/Evil etc circle spells

Traditions - similar in concept to the Sorc bloodlines. Which where interesting and for the most part kinda templates for playing different kinds of witches. Which I liked, I do wish their would have been a few more though, currently there is four. Black Magic, Healer, Protector and Soothsayer. But I understand space is a concern for any book.

Rites - This i think was the best thing they added. I really liked the idea of rites. I would have liked them to have expanded on it and not tied all of them to Traditions. The tradition ones all seem fairly well done though. But it would have been nice if they could learn some general ones as they level up and then had their tradition ones too.

I think it stands up well to the Paizo and Green Ronin witches. There is certain things about each of the three that I really like and typically at least one or two things of each I don't care for. Plus a couple I think they just could have done so much more with.

Since they cast differently like a Sorc and are different enough, I think one could easily use both in a campaign. Over all it seems pretty well balanced.

As a side note I have not play tested it yet so this is all off of me just reading it and thinking about it.

Anyways hope that helps those that are curious and that 4 wind doesn't mind the information I am posting about the class.


FenrysStar wrote:
I am thinking I should have ordered this through Lulu or Paizo itself. I don't even know if IPR shipped it yet. I checked my account and all it really says is that they got the money with a tracking number of pop?

You'll have to e-mail IPR about that. We have no influence on their shipping department. I do hope you get it soon, though.


Dark_Mistress wrote:
Anyways hope that helps those that are curious and that 4 wind doesn't mind the information I am posting about the class.

We always appreciate feedback!

Robert
4 Winds Fantasy Gaming


hunter1828 wrote:
FenrysStar wrote:
I am thinking I should have ordered this through Lulu or Paizo itself. I don't even know if IPR shipped it yet. I checked my account and all it really says is that they got the money with a tracking number of pop?
You'll have to e-mail IPR about that. We have no influence on their shipping department. I do hope you get it soon, though.

Thank you, I just want to read it. I'm despereate enough for material that I bought and am now reading the campaign setting HC. The country of Galt scares me. But I really like the Lands of the Linnorm Kings, go figure?


Just got a notice that the book has been shipped. Thanks for whatever aid you gave, I will give an honest review as soon as I am able.


FenrysStar wrote:
Just got a notice that the book has been shipped. Thanks for whatever aid you gave, I will give an honest review as soon as I am able.

We look forward to your review!


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I can't get this until after Christmas, in case it is one of my presents. Could you give a prview of the elemental wizard. My favorite class of wizards in 2e were the elementalists.

Thanks,
Doug


DougErvin wrote:
I can't get this until after Christmas, in case it is one of my presents. Could you give a prview of the elemental wizard. My favorite class of wizards in 2e were the elementalists.

We don't have a specific preview of the elementalist, but I can tell you that your character must still be a wizard as per the core rulebook, but instead of specializing in one of the schools of magic, the character specializes in one of the four base elements (air, earth, fire, water), and we include a spell list broken down by the elements, complete with some new spells for the elementalist.

Robert Thomson
4 Winds Fantasy Gaming


I received Paths of Power, The Book of Arcane Magic, and The Book of Divine Magic in the mail the other day. While I haven't had the time to read through all of them yet (the end of term is a busy time for an academic), I must say I am quite pleased with what I see. So far I've primarily read bits of Paths of Power and only skimmed the other two. I love how the elemental wizard was handled. The witch looks pretty good, and is different enough from the Paizo playtest witch that both definitely have room in a campaign. The NPC classes are flavorful.

Since I won't have time to read them in detail for a while, I at least wanted to say that I'm very happy with what I've seen so far.


Draco Caeruleus wrote:
Since I won't have time to read them in detail for a while, I at least wanted to say that I'm very happy with what I've seen so far.

Thanks for letting us know your preliminary thoughts on them! We're glad you like what you see!

Robert
4 Winds Fantasy Gaming

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