I had an idea for a feat this morning that could give Evocation the boost it in my opinion needs, adding a little utility. I'm curious what people think about it and if it's seen as overpowered or about right.
Prerequisites, Skills: Spellcraft 5 ranks, Knowledge (Arcana) or Knowledge(Planes 5 ranks, greater spell focus [Evocation]
Your evocation spells are more powerful than most. When someone affected by an evocation spell you cast that deals energy damage fails their saving throw, they are subject to a bull-rush attempt using your caster level + primary casting stat bonus (int for wizards, wis for druids/clerics, cha for sorcerers/bards) as your CMB. If the target fails it's saving throw by 5 or more they are dazed for one round. This does not knock airborn creatures out of the sky, but rather they have to fight for one round to regain control of their flight.
I had an idea for a feat this morning that could give Evocation the boost it in my opinion needs, adding a little utility. I'm curious what people think about it and if it's seen as overpowered or about right.
Prerequisites, Skills: Spellcraft 5 ranks, Knowledge (Arcana) or Knowledge(Planes 5 ranks, greater spell focus [Evocation]
Your evocation spells are more powerful than most. When someone affected by an evocation spell you cast that deals energy damage fails their saving throw, they are subject to a bull-rush attempt using your caster level + primary casting stat bonus (int for wizards, wis for druids/clerics, cha for sorcerers/bards) as your CMB. If the target fails it's saving throw by 5 or more they are dazed for one round. This does not knock airborn creatures out of the sky, but rather they have to fight for one round to regain control of their flight.
Not a bad idea. I like the Daze effect, but it creates another extra roll that would have to be tracked. I'd create a metamagic feat I think that works the same way, something like Dazing Spell. The spell automatically applies a Dazed effect to all targets effected if they fail their save.
I see other feats playing off this like the Critical Focus and X'ing Critical lines for fighters. Starting at level 8 or 9 you could take the Status Focus metamagic feat and then at equivalent levels you could pick up spells that apply statuses just like the criticals. Each one would apply a 1,2, or 3 spell slot cost and you could pick up Status Master to apply 2 of them. Of course if the targets save, no statuses are applied. Maybe a bit OP'd, but if the kinks were worked out it could be really neat.
Not a bad idea. I like the Daze effect, but it creates another extra roll that would have to be tracked. I'd create a metamagic feat I think that works the same way, something like Dazing Spell. The spell automatically applies a Dazed effect to all targets effected if they fail their save.
I see other feats playing off this like the Critical Focus and X'ing Critical lines for fighters. Starting at level 8 or 9 you could take the Status Focus metamagic feat and then at equivalent levels you could pick up spells that apply statuses just like the criticals. Each one would apply a 1,2, or 3 spell slot cost and you could pick up Status Master to apply 2 of them. Of course if the targets save, no statuses are applied. Maybe a bit OP'd, but if the kinks were worked out it could be really neat.
Interesting idea. I wasn't actually thinking of a separate dice roll, though in spells with no save I guess you would have to do that. I was thinking if you get hit with a DC 20 fireball and you roll 16-19 you get the bull-rush attempt. If you roll a 15 or less on your save you get dazed for a round because you got waylaid by the spell.
Interesting idea. I wasn't actually thinking of a separate dice roll, though in spells with no save I guess you would have to do that. I was thinking if you get hit with a DC 20 fireball and you roll 16-19 you get the bull-rush attempt. If you roll a 15 or less on your save you get dazed for a round because you got waylaid by the spell.
Not a bad idea. I like the Daze effect, but it creates another extra roll that would have to be tracked. I'd create a metamagic feat I think that works the same way, something like Dazing Spell. The spell automatically applies a Dazed effect to all targets effected if they fail their save.
I see other feats playing off this like the Critical Focus and X'ing Critical lines for fighters. Starting at level 8 or 9 you could take the Status Focus metamagic feat and then at equivalent levels you could pick up spells that apply statuses just like the criticals. Each one would apply a 1,2, or 3 spell slot cost and you could pick up Status Master to apply 2 of them. Of course if the targets save, no statuses are applied. Maybe a bit OP'd, but if the kinks were worked out it could be really neat.
Ahh, misread that as if they failed their save then they take a bullrush attack. Seems we were thinking the same thing, so yeah, I like it.