Dispel Magic


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If there were multiple spells with same caster level in effect on the target of the dispel magic, what will happen? All of them dispelled? If not, who chooses which spell to be dispelled?

Grand Lodge

The example given in dispel magic shows that you work top-down, checking against the highest level spell first. This is also outright stated in greater dispel magic, but not in dispel magic, for some reason.

Basically, you dispel the highest level spell of the highest caster level that you can affect. With multiple spells of the same level and with an identical caster level, I'd suggest going alphabetically - that's what I always did under 3.5.

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Highest level, using random selection to resolve any ties.

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Thank both of you for your advice and clarification.

RPG Superstar 2010 Top 32

Thanks a ton, I was just about to post asking this.

This does sound like a bit of an all-or-nothing affair, considering that most of the effects which a creature or group of creatures can field are going to be at the same caster level.

The given example (of one buff at CL12 and another at CL6) strikes me as a little weird.


Hydro wrote:

Thanks a ton, I was just about to post asking this.

This does sound like a bit of an all-or-nothing affair, considering that most of the effects which a creature or group of creatures can field are going to be at the same caster level.

The given example (of one buff at CL12 and another at CL6) strikes me as a little weird.

Don't forget about potion and scroll effects that are usualy of lower caster level.

RPG Superstar 2010 Top 32

Okay, right, gotcha. He apparently drank a potion (which was apparently brewed by a sorcerer).

I'm guilty of giving villains piles of potions and/or scrolls to buff with before a climactic encounter. Perhaps not common for mook enemies or hostile NPC gangs, but certianly for BBEGs or recurring solo antagonists who know that the fight is coming.


Hydro wrote:

Okay, right, gotcha. He apparently drank a potion (which was apparently brewed by a sorcerer).

I'm guilty of giving villains piles of potions and/or scrolls to buff with before a climactic encounter. Perhaps not common for mook enemies or hostile NPC gangs, but certianly for BBEGs or recurring solo antagonists who know that the fight is coming.

I was only observing that a not-so-good caster level check on a dispel attempt might no be a total loss of a spell. Sorry if it came out as a criticism.


Just to be sure, the "spell's caster level" is equal to what ? According to me, if a sorcerer (lvl 15) cast a "mage armor" and a "fly" on a PC, the DC to dispel them is equal to :
Mage armor : 11 + 1 = 12 (1 because you have to be lvl 1 to cast "mage armor")
Fly: 11 + 6 = 17 (6 because you have to be level 6 to cat a spell lvl 3)
Is it right?

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sempai33 wrote:

Just to be sure, the "spell's caster level" is equal to what ? According to me, if a sorcerer (lvl 15) cast a "mage armor" and a "fly" on a PC, the DC to dispel them is equal to :

Mage armor : 11 + 1 = 12 (1 because you have to be lvl 1 to cast "mage armor")
Fly: 11 + 6 = 17 (6 because you have to be level 6 to cat a spell lvl 3)
Is it right?

They were cast by a 15th level character so would have a caster level of 15.

Scrolls and potions and most magic items (not staves) are different as unless stated they're assumed to be cast at the lowest level possible to cast them.

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