New Pathfinder SRD Site (beta) for your review and comments

[Epic Meepo]

Karui Kage wrote:

It'd be cool to have a site almost entirely like the d20srd in terms of setup, links, etc. for Pathfinder. And I have been wanting to write another site recently...

I wholeheartedly support any site that exactly mimics d20srd.org, but with PFRPG rules.

EDIT: I also support multiple people working on different versions of this site. So everyone making SRD sites, please post links. Then I can take a look at all of them and decide which one works best for me. And I can see which one is fastest able to convert to the final rules in August.

[jreyst]

Meepo (and others): I'm interested in any feedback, positive or negative, that you may have on the site as it is at the moment. I admit this is still beta rules (for obvious reasons) but I am more looking for comment on the layout and speed of the site etc. I do plan to convert to Final as soon as it is released, as well as maintain the content, which is why I registered the d20pfsrd.com domain name for the next 2 years.

I am also inviting everyone and anyone who has the time to contribute to making the site better. I need help adding links and splitting out the spells into individual pages (in order to help out the rp/maptools folks). I have a few collaborators right now but as of this minute only one has actually done any editing. I'm hoping the others will as well as soon as their schedules allow.

[Epic Meepo]

Well, if you're already planning on separating the spells into separate pages, I'd recommend also breaking any sections that start with huge tables of contents into separate pages.

For example, the Combat link on the main page currently points to the entire Combat chapter, at the beginning of which is an enormous menu covering every topic and subtopic in that chapter. I would instead have the Combat link point to a menu of major Combat chapter topics, each of which points to a menu of subtopics, and so forth, ending with a menu of links that each points to a small, topical page of text.

So Combat would have a list of links resembling the following:

Spoiler:

Combat
-How Combat Works
-Combat Statistics
-Actions in Combat
-Injury and Death
-Combat Modifiers
-Movement, Position, and Distance
-Big and Little Creatures in Combat
-Special Attacks
-Special Initiative Actions

Maybe combine Special Initiative Actions with Actions in Combat

And if I clicked on, say, Actions in Combat, I'd get:

Spoiler:

Combat
-Actions in Combat
--The Combat Round
--Types of Actions
--Standard Actions
--Move Actions
--Full-Round Actions
--Free Actions
--Swift Actions
--Immediate Actions
--Miscellaneous Actions
-Next Topic

Then, if I clicked on The Combat Round, I'd be taken to a page of text for The Combat Round.

In other words, I'd never be looking at a table of contents more than a dozen or so lines long. Any list of nested subtopics would be broken off into its own submenu reached by a link from the main menu for a chapter.

If you really want to impress me, have each submenu appear to the right of the menu from which it was linked. So if I click on Combat, I get the Combat menu on the left. Then, when I click on a subtopic, a submenu appears to the right of the Combat menu, and so on.

[jreyst]

Epic Meepo wrote:

Well, if you're already planning on separating the spells into separate pages, I'd recommend also breaking any sections that start with huge tables of contents into separate pages.

Agreed. I plan to do that but haven't gotten to it yet. There's a lot to do.

Epic Meepo wrote:

If you really want to impress me, have each submenu appear to the right of the menu from which it was linked. So if I click on Combat, I get the Combat menu on the left. Then, when I click on a subtopic, a submenu appears to the right of the Combat menu, and so on.

Unfortunately the Google Sites architecture does not allow for javascript so such a menu would be impossible currently. If I were to move this site to a "real" server then it would be simple, but then I'd also have a monthly hosting bill, which I don't have with the Google Sites.

[Darius Silverbolt]

fopalup wrote:

Is this going to be just a Beta site, or are you converting it to the PFRPG in August?

Not bad at all. Will use in the games

[jreyst]

Paul Rees wrote:

fopalup wrote:

Is this going to be just a Beta site, or are you converting it to the PFRPG in August?

Not bad at all. Will use in the games

Thanks. Check back often as I am always (always) making updates. I am also always (always) looking for help. If you (or someone you know) have/has some spare time the site (and everyone) sure would benefit from your help!

[hogarth]

I notice that the stuff from Chapter 12 (Running the Game) is missing. Is this intentional?

Also, on a lesser note, the "Spells Known" table is missing from the Bard description.

[jreyst]

hogarth wrote:

I notice that the stuff from Chapter 12 (Running the Game) is missing. Is this intentional?

Also, on a lesser note, the "Spells Known" table is missing from the Bard description.

If anything is missing its unintentional and I appreciate you bringing it to my attention. I actually replied to this post last night but apparently never hit submit. I'll try to get that info in there tonight (or today if work is slow enough lol).

Thanks for bringing it to my attention!

Oh, and, another shameless plea for assistance is in order. If anyone would like to offer *any* assistance, you don't need to be a web designer or anything to help. Its really easy, its just tedious. Email me at [e-mail] if you think you might have even a few minutes to offer. Every little bit helps get it completed sooner rather than later.

On a side note, I am going to start adding in "Final" stuff as we see it, such as starting up a Bestiary section with all of the monsters from the bonus bestiary. I believe they are all open content but I will confirm before posting anything.

[jreyst]

Thanks for stepping up Hogarth! Invite sent.

[jreyst]

Random question time folks....

I am engaged in some debate on a Yahoo group I just joined with someone who seems to think that my site, http://www.d20pfsrd.com, is in violation of community use restrictions.

I have taken the time to go over them very carefully. Not so that I can find loopholes, but to find out just what sorts of things the Community Usage guidelines allow. I *believe* I am in compliance with these guidelines. My initial reaction was to dismiss this character out of hand, that perhaps he didn't know what he was talking about, but upon looking closer I saw that the person in question happened to be none other than yoda8myhead.

I found it odd that he would be raising this matter today since we discussed this yesterday and he raised no issues, and in fact praised my efforts. That's all beside the point though, because all I am asking here is, do any of you believe, not just with a feeling, but with specific cases, there are parts of the site that are NOT in compliance?

If so, please bring them to my attention so that I can research where I was mistaken, or, IF I am mistaken etc.

Thanks everyone!

[hogarth]

Personally, that's why I'd prefer a site using the Open Game License rather than the Community Use Guidelines to avoid that sort of argument in the first place. YMMV, of course.

[jreyst]

It turns out I believe I included descriptive text in the bestiary pages inappropriately. That material has been removed. If anyone becomes aware of any other pages that include content they shouldn't please do let me know.

[jreyst]

Consider this another plea for assistance!

If anyone has any time (even an hour here and there) I could use your help getting the Pathfinder SRD as spiffy as possible! Come on over to http://www.d20pfsrd.com or email me directly at [e-mail].

On a not-so-begging note, there have been very many updates to the site. Besides the very many smaller updates, the more notable ones would be...

Updates!

• Sorcerer Bloodlines added (link)
  
• Cleric domain information added (link)
  
• Traits added (from Pathfinder® Character Traits Web Enhancement by James Jacobs and F. Wesley Schneider) (link)
  
• Links to Magic Item costs added to Magic Item main page (link)
  
• RPG Web Profiler Online Character Sheet access added to Character Sheets page (link)
  
• Spell lists (by class) linkified and sorted correctly (link)
  
• Recommended links added to sidebar (on all pages)
  

News!
These sites have either linked to the site or recommended it..

• RPGblog2 has added a link to the site in their Links box!
  
• thegeekgazette #1
  
• thegeekgazette #2
  
• PathfinderWiki (started by the infamous yoda8myhead) has recommended the site!
  

There's a lot more updates and many more to come. Come on by and leave a comment on the Talk page and let me know what you'd like to see or if you have corrections to anything.

That's it for now!