| Patrick Curtin |
I love WOD; but have no interest in playing a blood sucking excuse for a walking corpse :) If your playing WOD then the whole world of clans and creatures should be available not just vampires or some vampire chronical; why poll OWOD if all your really want is vamps?
Umm, just testing the waters? I was seeing if anyone was interested? Casual poll? Honestly I'd feel happier with vamps since that's what I know, but I can always stretch if there's enough interest.
flash_cxxi
RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32
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I love Old WoD. I have a bucket load of Vampire books and some of the other Core Rulebooks (Werewolf, Mage, Hunter, Mummies). Also have most of the Kindred of the East books, Kindred of the Ebony Kingdom and Dark Ages (although I lent my friend the Core DA book and never got it back after he moved...)
I had a 6th Generation (through Diablerie) Setite name Sabine Dupré. 16 or 18 upon her Embrace (can't remember which off the top of my head). A French Rose amongst Thorns, she was basically sold by her poor peasant family to a rich Merchant as a sex slave when she was 12 or so. Since she had been around for so long and she was beautiful, he decided to marry her once she came of age. She killed him and made it look like an accident, inheriting a Europe wide Merchant consortium. This happened hundreds of years ago, after Dark Ages but using those creation rules...
The game we played started out as all Vamps and was set in 1444. It was the first chapter of the Giovanni Chronicles Story Arc and culminated in Augustus Giovanni diablerising Cappadocius. We time jumped 100 years and only two of us kept our characters (Lasombra was the other, also a diablerist). New group consisted of a Demon, Mage, Nagah and the two Vamps. My Vamp was Setite Sorceress. She was experimenting with some Fae blood and it went wrong after she drank it. Decreased her Perception and increased her Appearance by one Dot, plus allowed her access to Mytherceria (although I still had to purchase it as normal). She was also attempting to breed her own Revenant Bloodline from her Ghoul Lady in Waiting Clarice.
Man antagonists were Shadow Lord Lupines (we were in the Balkans) and man they were freakin' tough. She took so much agg damage I had to invest in some Fortitude.
It also spawned my love of the Vampire the Eternal Struggle CCG, of which I was the Champion of the First Nationals to be held in Australia and which I still play every fortnight on the off night from D&D. :)
Set
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I never agreed with the canon on Boston anyway, if there was a city the Giovanni should of had locked up it would be New York...
Given the Giovanni's official status, in the eyes of the Camarilla and Sabbat, they probably shouldn't have *any* places 'locked down.' Even places generally considered ex-mafia bedroom communities, like Troy, NY, would probably be too big a pearl for the Camarilla to just give away to a non-Camarilla Clan.
Boston's character lends itself more to Tremere or Gangrel influence, IMO. It's a little out of the economic and political mainstream for heavy Ventrue influence, and lacks the sophisticated high culture airs one would associate with a Toreador-run city. Not that one can't creatively put anyone in charge, and make it work. :)
In the two city-based games I ran, Nosferatu ended up being the Princes of Miami (city at war) and Denver (the mile-deep city).
| Stebehil |
Valegrim wrote:I love WOD; but have no interest in playing a blood sucking excuse for a walking corpse :) If your playing WOD then the whole world of clans and creatures should be available not just vampires or some vampire chronical; why poll OWOD if all your really want is vamps?Umm, just testing the waters? I was seeing if anyone was interested? Casual poll? Honestly I'd feel happier with vamps since that's what I know, but I can always stretch if there's enough interest.
Well, I would vote against opening up a WoD zoo - mixing everything together in the WoD works even worse than mixing all the critters in D&D usable (in theory) as PCs IMO. But thats just my opinion.
Stefan
Dark_Mistress
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Just a FYI, a friend of mine owns a oWoD online site that has chat room based games that play on it. It is low on players right now but there is till a few get togethers every week of people playing.
www.wodnyc.net
I do the web stuff for the site and play occasionally. But if anyone is interested you can go check it out.
Set
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Random house rules we used for VtM.
1) Ghouls cost 1 temporary Willpower (and some amount of blood, at least 1 BP) to create. A portion of the vampire's Beast is being passed on to the soon-to-be-Ghoul. Once Ghouled, they only need blood for maintenance. A Ghoul that stops being a ghoul ('starves') and survives the experience loses any Blood Bound status, and must be re-Ghouled (and / or Blood Bound) as if starting over at the beginning.
No more can someone sneak into a frat initiation and 'spike the punch' to Ghoul a dozen frat boys, although a vampire willing to invest the time and recover the drain on his Beast can do such a thing over a much longer time.
2) Childer cost 1 *permanant* Willpower to create, and thus are a significant investment to the Sire. The Sire can spend XP to regain the lost Willpower normally. No more, 'Oh, the Sabbat are attacking, I embrace forty-five blood bound flunkies and send them in as disposable shock-troops.' Note that those who *do* engage in this sort of tactic, such as the Sabbat, will have lower-than-normal Willpower scores, as they are constantly playing 'catch-up' fortifying their psyches against the ravages of their Beasts. Qu'elle surprise, the Sabbat aren't known as paragons of self-control anyway...
Diablerie Mills become impossible, as blood taken from another kindred and carried away cannot be used to create new vampires to diablerize. But, as with all things, an exception exists in the form of an Assamite ritual of some sort that allows an Assamite to capture some of the Beast of a slain Kindred in his blood. No PC will have this, so it's flavor text.
3) Celerity costs 1 BP per turn to use for extra combat actions, or 1 BP per scene to use for rapid long-distance travel. Stolen from Dark Ages flavor text, this allows Assamites to run across the sands like a desert wind, crossing great distances in a night's time.
3.5) Celerity doesn't give extra actions, it merely allows more effective use of the Split Actions rules that already exist in the game. By spending one blood point at the beginning of the round, the Celerity user gets one automatic success to divide between attacks when he is taking the Split Attack action, and can Split his dice pool up to Celerity +1 times.
Attack dice pools can not be Split more times than the character's dots in Brawl, Melee or Firearms, as appropriate, and auto-successes can only be spent on Brawl, Melee and Firearms attacks, not uses of Dominate or Thaumaturgy or whatever.
So with Celerity 3, a Brujah with Dex 3 and Brawl 3 can spent 1 BP and split his attack dice pool up to 4 times. He gets six dice and three auto-successes to spread between those potential die pools. Since he only has Brawl 3, he can only Split his dice pool three times, and he chooses to take one auto-success and two rolled dice for each of three attacks.
If he only had Celerity 1, but the same Dex 3 and Brawl 3, he could only split his dice pool into two attacks (Celerity +1 or Brawl, whichever is less), and would only get one automatic success to add to one of his two dice pools (and six rolled dice to split between them).
This apes the Potence and Fortitude mechanic of just adding automatic successes to certain rolls, rather than adding entirely new actions, which, combined with the Split Attack rules, was tres obscene.
Using this option, the Celerity-user can still spend 1 BP to get a scene's worth of out of combat running really fast. (Normal running speed x Celerity+1, so with Celerity 3, our sample Brujah could across town at four times his normal running speed for a single blood point.)
Optionally, the automatic successes could count for normal Melee, Brawl or Firearms attacks as well, allowing our sample Brujah to spend a blood point and get three auto-successes on a single punishing blow, by delivering it at blinding speed. This is a sub-sub-option that we tinkered with, but weren't in love with.
4) Clan Weaknesses can be temporarily affected by Discipline effects, but not permanantly erased. A Nosferatu or Samedi can be temporarily fleshcrafted into a 'normal' appearance, but will 'heal back to normal' overnight and return to being a hideous freak. A Malkavian who benefits from some Salubrious mind-mojo (or is Dominated into forgetting traumatic memories or whatever) will similarly 'wake up crazy' again the next night. Some things don't heal and Vicissitude is not an 'easy way out' of the Nosferatu Clan Weakness (although a Nosferatu with Vicissitude 1 can, *every single night,* use fleshcrafting to appear normal again, which would represent an expenditure of XP, a blood point every night, and the fiddly detail about en-debting oneself to a Tzimisce teacher...).
We really didn't have a whole lot of trouble with anything else. Potence, Fortitude, Auspex, Obfuscate, Dominate, Presence and Protean all worked just fine. Thaumaturgy was either weak or scary (Spirit Thaum 1 was a killer). Outre Disciplines like Obtenebration, Vicissitude, etc. were quite potent, but also rarer. Serpentis and Quietus seemed to be as much flavor as crunch, and were unpopular, and nobody wanted to touch Chimerstry, due to the Willpower cost.
Necromancy was either not useful, in a game with no rules for ghosts, or horrifically overpowered, in a World of Darkness that used the Wraith: the Oblivion rules, and in which a Giovanni (or Samedi, or Kiasyd, or Maharajah, or whatever) could call up servants with Puppetry or Usury or Inhabit or Keening or whatever, and duplicate the effects of other Disciplines, as well as attack other Vampires (or mortals, or werewolves, whatever) with Wraiths that could not be avoided or defended against (or even detected, in most cases).
| Patrick Curtin |
Just resurrecting this thread from topor for fun.
I've been having an itch to play Vampire the Masquerade again, especially after receiving a few tomes from the big American Eagles sale. I am just posting this up as a thought experiment: Would anyone be interested in VtM? I'd be most comfortable running a vampire chronicle, as that is what I have the most of. I also have to make a SAN check if I start another game...
| Monkeygod |
Just resurrecting this thread from topor for fun.
I've been having an itch to play Vampire the Masquerade again, especially after receiving a few tomes from the big American Eagles sale. I am just posting this up as a thought experiment: Would anyone be interested in VtM? I'd be most comfortable running a vampire chronicle, as that is what I have the most of. I also have to make a SAN check if I start another game...
Seeing as how I just came back from the V20 Grand Masquerade event in New Orleans, I would absolutely be interested. However, *if* you're going to run this, I would strongly suggest you pick up a copy of V20. I believe it ships to normal stores and such around Oct.
| Patrick Curtin |
Patrick Curtin wrote:Seeing as how I just came back from the V20 Grand Masquerade event in New Orleans, I would absolutely be interested. However, *if* you're going to run this, I would strongly suggest you pick up a copy of V20. I believe it ships to normal stores and such around Oct.Just resurrecting this thread from topor for fun.
I've been having an itch to play Vampire the Masquerade again, especially after receiving a few tomes from the big American Eagles sale. I am just posting this up as a thought experiment: Would anyone be interested in VtM? I'd be most comfortable running a vampire chronicle, as that is what I have the most of. I also have to make a SAN check if I start another game...
Holeey crap! How is it that I never even heard of this??
Man, they gotta fire their marketing department =/
Thanks for the tip Monkeygod! (love the name BTW). I will def be picking up a copy when it becomes available!
| Monkeygod |
Monkeygod wrote:Patrick Curtin wrote:Seeing as how I just came back from the V20 Grand Masquerade event in New Orleans, I would absolutely be interested. However, *if* you're going to run this, I would strongly suggest you pick up a copy of V20. I believe it ships to normal stores and such around Oct.Just resurrecting this thread from topor for fun.
I've been having an itch to play Vampire the Masquerade again, especially after receiving a few tomes from the big American Eagles sale. I am just posting this up as a thought experiment: Would anyone be interested in VtM? I'd be most comfortable running a vampire chronicle, as that is what I have the most of. I also have to make a SAN check if I start another game...
Holeey crap! How is it that I never even heard of this??
Man, they gotta fire their marketing department =/
Thanks for the tip Monkeygod! (love the name BTW). I will def be picking up a copy when it becomes available!
I'll tell Greg whose their marketing director. There definitely needs to be more publicity for next year's event.
Beckett
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Holeey crap! How is it that I never even heard of this??
Man, they gotta fire their marketing department =/
Thanks for the tip Monkeygod! (love the name BTW). I will def be picking up a copy when it becomes available!
As I understand it, (and it seems there are few certainties), the hardcover may or may not be available for purchase after the Grand Masq, and if so, will be a black and white PoD book, or expensice Amazon purchase. If one did not preorder by a few months ago.
The PDF is suppossed to be purchasable from DriveThru, sometime between Sep and Oct.
| Stebehil |
Wow. Blast from the past, I´d say. I was even thinking about getting the v20 book, but then, I was a few weeks late for preorder, and did not see anything else where I could get it. If it will be available as a pdf, I will probably get it.
I would still be interested in a PBP game (recently bought some old V:tM books as well). I´m moving next week, however, so I would not be too sad if starting the game would need a few more weeks.... But still, let me know when you start the game. (I will move about 200+ miles next week - not much by US standards, but a big move in an European context, so, adjusting will take a while. People in Saxonia do have a peculiar accent...)
Stefan
Beckett
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Wow. Blast from the past, I´d say. I was even thinking about getting the v20 book, but then, I was a few weeks late for preorder, and did not see anything else where I could get it. If it will be available as a pdf, I will probably get it.
You may be in luck. These guys and gals combined their orders to sayve on shipping. It is possible there might be an extra copy in there somewhere.