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8. If you don't wish to stay mobile best site for setup would have to be an abandoned maximum security prison with a large courtyard for farming.
Prisons are good at keeping people in, not so good always at keeping them out.
If the world is overrun with a Zombie Plague, well long term survival really depends on finding a defenseable location with a renewable food and power source. That aint an easy thing to find. Maybe a rich guys island if he's into solar power.
But no matter what you do leather is good for clothing (hard to bite through and looks good on the ladies), shotguns are easy to hit with even for bad shots, you can never have enough ammo so carry a bat/mace/club/axe for last ditch situations, and always make sure you stay with the group.

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If the world is overrun with a Zombie Plague, well long term survival really depends on finding a defenseable location with a renewable food and power source. That aint an easy thing to find. Maybe a rich guys island if he's into solar power.
I've already got my haven planned - decommisioned hulls here at the old Navy Shipyard in Philly. Most of them have only one way to get onboard - a ramp that has a gate. Sure they could get through the gate, but the ramp could always be removed. We could fish off the sides for some food, although power might be a problem.
Now if only I could get long-term access to one and start stocking up supplies for that inevitable day.....

Thurgon |

Thurgon wrote:If the world is overrun with a Zombie Plague, well long term survival really depends on finding a defenseable location with a renewable food and power source. That aint an easy thing to find. Maybe a rich guys island if he's into solar power.
I've already got my haven planned - decommisioned hulls here at the old Navy Shipyard in Philly. Most of them have only one way to get onboard - a ramp that has a gate. Sure they could get through the gate, but the ramp could always be removed. We could fish off the sides for some food, although power might be a problem.
Now if only I could get long-term access to one and start stocking up supplies for that inevitable day.....
I wouldn't eat any fish you catch there....
Plus I'd be across the river on the New Jersey shelling you.....

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14. Construct your Lobo ahead of time, and never let it be out of arm's reach.
Huh. I question the practicality of those instructions. I have a machete. It would not be my blade of choice for chopping through heads in a single swing (a little too light). Also, while I love duct tape, it would only take a couple of solid hits against an opponent to loosen it enough to make it worthless. Better to drill two holes through the bottom of your blade and then bolt it tightly to the end of a mattock handle.

Thurgon |

Cosmo wrote:14. Construct your Lobo ahead of time, and never let it be out of arm's reach.Huh. I question the practicality of those instructions. I have a machete. It would not be my blade of choice for chopping through heads in a single swing (a little too light). Also, while I love duct tape, it would only take a couple of solid hits against an opponent to loosen it enough to make it worthless. Better to drill two holes through the bottom of your blade and then bolt it tightly to the end of a mattock handle.
I have a machete too, or did...point is the thing wouldn't be my choice for use against zombies, sure it might get one or two, eventually it will get stuck or dull, either way it quickly becomes worthless.
Get a mace, becoming dull aint an issue, and it isn't getting stuck anytime soon.
Barring having chainmail, a good idea, I still say your typical leather jacket and work gloves are tough on zombie teeth and should do you well in a pinch. Work boots and work jeans aren't bad either though you will be slower, and that could cost you, so make sure when escaping you trip the guy next to you as you go, it will buy time.....
Get a self powered radio and flash light (it's solar for charging the rechargable batteries and in a pinch you can crank the bad boy, something my brother got me but it's a cool little thing (only weighs like 5 pounds).)
Were do you go once you know the Zombie Plague has hit?
1. Nearest gun shop
2. Nearest Mall
3. Nearest Police Station
4. Nearest Military Base
5. Nearest Supermarket
6. Home
7. Get on the road and keep going till you run out of gas
8. None of the above

Dogbert |

Actually a (good) mall makes for a pretty nice short to mid-term stronghold, at least while you plan your big escape to some other country:
-Sport shops: Hunting Rifles.
-Restaurants: Food, also canned goods.
-Independent power generator.
-Independent water treatment facilities. (at least in the mall close to my home)
-Independent gas pump.
-Surveillance room, you don't need to patrol the whole thing.
-Doors made of ballistic glass. (again, in mine at least).
It's safe to assume that, as soon as zombies start swarming in the doors will be closed so, even if you arrive a bit late, that guarantees the number of zombies your troupe (you're not -alone- are you?) will have to deal with is -finite-. From then on it's all about reclaiming it bit by bit, one zombie at a time. Don't rush, take your time if needed, narrow corridors are your friends.
Waste not your time with axes or chainsaws, crowbars are easier to come across and they smash skulls just as fine.
Forget about armor, rubber and leather are the way to go, you're warding yourself against human teeth, not bullets.
Absolutely no incendiary weapons. Zombies have no working nerves so fire won't kill them outright, and instead you'll now have to deal with -flaming zombies- running at you.

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15. Learn to make chainmail
edit - I see chainmail in various films but they never show anyone making the stuff. Ain't going to be anyone you can rely on but yourself for these things when the z-bomb hits.
Best instruction manual for making Chainmail that I've come across.
Get your chainmail rings here!I have a shirt, some leather and chain bracers and a small bucket of rings ready to go with the tools needed to make whatever I need.

lynora |

Wicht wrote:15. Learn to make chainmail
edit - I see chainmail in various films but they never show anyone making the stuff. Ain't going to be anyone you can rely on but yourself for these things when the z-bomb hits.
Best instruction manual for making Chainmail that I've come across.
Get your chainmail rings here!
I have a shirt, some leather and chain bracers and a small bucket of rings ready to go with the tools needed to make whatever I need.
I've always thought that making my own chain mail would be so cool. Stupid metal allergies.

Thurgon |

Fake Healer wrote:I've always thought that making my own chain mail would be so cool. Stupid metal allergies.Wicht wrote:15. Learn to make chainmail
edit - I see chainmail in various films but they never show anyone making the stuff. Ain't going to be anyone you can rely on but yourself for these things when the z-bomb hits.
Best instruction manual for making Chainmail that I've come across.
Get your chainmail rings here!
I have a shirt, some leather and chain bracers and a small bucket of rings ready to go with the tools needed to make whatever I need.
You can wear clothing between you and the chain mail...although for ladies this is heavily discouraged. :)
Although if one metal is an issue go with another bronze or steel will work to stop human teeth. Heck heavy clothing works against human teeth, no need for metal.

lynora |

You can wear clothing between you and the chain mail...although for ladies this is heavily discouraged. :)
Although if one metal is an issue go with another bronze or steel will work to stop human teeth. Heck heavy clothing works against human teeth, no need for metal.
It's really hard to find metal that doesn't have any nickel or tin in it that has any real strength to it. And I can't make chainmail if it makes my hands swell up to touch the metal :)

seekerofshadowlight |

If I have a multi-billion doller, underground compound.
1. It would not be protected by a chain link fence.
2. The elevator going to said compound will not auto rise up between table in an old shack because you step in the right place.
3. Instead it will need a bio scan and a 10 digit code, and you will be placed into a 72 hour hold upon return

Thurgon |

Thurgon wrote:It's really hard to find metal that doesn't have any nickel or tin in it that has any real strength to it. And I can't make chainmail if it makes my hands swell up to touch the metal :)
You can wear clothing between you and the chain mail...although for ladies this is heavily discouraged. :)
Although if one metal is an issue go with another bronze or steel will work to stop human teeth. Heck heavy clothing works against human teeth, no need for metal.
You could wear thin gloves to work with it, baring that wrought iron has no tin or nickel(well it isn't required, you have to check though because it could contain either or both) and it's pretty tough yet malleable. Low Brass might work too, it's used for flexible metal pipes and the like. Not great at stopping a thrusting weapon or even slashing one but fine to stop teeth and will look pretty much like a golden set of chainmail.

Thurgon |

If I have a multi-billion doller, underground compound.
1. It would not be protected by a chain link fence.
2. The elevator going to said compound will not auto rise up between table in an old shack because you step in the right place.
3. Instead it will need a bio scan and a 10 digit code, and you will be placed into a 72 hour hold upon return
I would also hope you have some way to renew your food supply as well in that multibillon bunker. Otherwise you just bought yourself a few months of time, followed by starvation.

Thurgon |

Depending on how the contagion is spread, zombies may be a food supply.
Zombie, the other red meat.
I'm not sure that would be healthy no matter how the contagion spread. The meat is still human meat, you end up with the equalivalent of "mad cow".
So assuming you are alive and can gather up a group who do you need in your group to make it work?
Scientist, doctor, soldier, lawyer? Who do you need to make easier to surive, worth surviving, and even possible to survive and who would hold you back from surviving?
Surviving alone to me aint really making it, so I would want buddies. Honestly I would need them, I can't be awake 24/7 watching for Zombies so I need reliable people to be with me.
One important rule is never leave just 1 person up at night to watch out for Zombies, they always fall asleep or wonder off to be eaten. And two is bad because it always ends up being a couple that goes off for fun only to accidently open the doors to swarms of zombies. So you need three or more for night time guard duty.

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CourtFool wrote:I'm not sure that would be healthy no matter how the contagion spread. The meat is still human meat, you end up with the equalivalent of "mad cow".Depending on how the contagion is spread, zombies may be a food supply.
Zombie, the other red meat.
The name of that disease is kuru, and you significantly reduce your chances of catching it if you avoid the zombie brains.
The more you know... (Theme song)

Thurgon |

you need a comunity
necesaries: police, soldier, engineers (different types)
needed: doctors, farmers, women!
mmm damn... ok we can use the writers as leaders.... its should be damn better than let politicians live :P
Well in a perfect situation you would find a community that was defenseable, surrounded by fast moving rivers, mountains, ocean, whatever. But chances are good you will need to gather who you can and fight your way out to such safety.
Ok Zombie plague breaks out at noon(est) today, what do you do?

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Montalve wrote:you need a comunity
necesaries: police, soldier, engineers (different types)
needed: doctors, farmers, women!
mmm damn... ok we can use the writers as leaders.... its should be damn better than let politicians live :P
Well in a perfect situation you would find a community that was defenseable, surrounded by fast moving rivers, mountains, ocean, whatever. But chances are good you will need to gather who you can and fight your way out to such safety.
Ok Zombie plague breaks out at noon(est) today, what do you do?
I would assume that the plague starts in urban areas, allowing us more rural folks some lee-way. I also notice that the idea of 'fighting your way out' assumes you live in a city.
1) Break out the guns.
2) Pack the car so that the family can leave the area on short notice (clothing, canned food, extra ammunition, a few books); fill it with gas
3) Call other family members around the country to coordinate
4) Start preparing hand weapons - the shovels, hammers, axes, machetes, etc. get brought out and converted if necessary.
5) Barricade the front porch so that there is a double layer of protection - zombies can't get in the house. I wouldn't run right away. I would try and gather intel on where the plague is the worst. A fortified home can hold more food in the short run than your car and the longer you take to make sure you have everything ready before leaving the better.

Thurgon |

Thurgon wrote:Ok Zombie plague breaks out at noon(est) today, what do you do?I would assume that the plague starts in urban areas, allowing us more rural folks some lee-way. I also notice that the idea of 'fighting your way out' assumes you live in a city.
1) Break out the guns.
2) Pack the car so that the family can leave the area on short notice (clothing, canned food, extra ammunition, a few books); fill it with gas
3) Call other family members around the country to coordinate
4) Start preparing hand weapons - the shovels, hammers, axes, machetes, etc. get brought out and converted if necessary.
5) Barricade the front porch so that there is a double layer of protection - zombies can't get in the house. I wouldn't run right away. I would try and gather intel on where the plague is the worst. A fortified home can hold more food in the short run than your car and the longer you take to make sure you have everything ready before leaving the better.
I live in a more or less subburb, but work close to NYC, so first thing I am doing is hauling butt out of here to get my wife. Then to home for my daughter.
I just don't like my chances at my home, too densely populated. I think I pack up the car, and go to my sister's in PA.

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If there were a zombie apocalypse, I just might re-think my antipathy towards the militia movement.
Those guys already have well-armed and fortified locations in the middle of BFE. If anyone's safe from zombies, they are.
Unless that's where the zombie outbreak starts. Then we would have a plague of heavily armed zombies.

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that would make me even more worried you know? :P
Yeah. They're already pretty paranoid. The zombie invasion would just give them carte-blanche to shoot first and ask questions later...hmm...maybe it would be better to either incite the militias to attack the zombie infested cities, or somehow convince the zombies to shamble all the way out to BFE so that the militias could kill them.
Meanwhile, I'll find a nice deserted island somewhere.