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My name is Ted and I have decided to write stories around the world of Pathfinder. I am also looking for others that have the same intention. If you wish to make a career being a writer, I would be happy to work with you on this project.

This will be an amateur effort with no possibility of publishing. The goal is to focus our skills in writing and sharpen our knowledge of Galorian.... in a "fan" related manner. This club is welcome to everyone.

The club would critique each other's writing and provide insight to all members.

I have decided to do this because of RPG Superstar 2009. I think many of you out there have what it takes to be excellent writers, but perhaps aren't gifted or experienced enough in 3.5/PRPG game mechanics to ever pass the scrutiny of the judges (of that system).

Basically gang, this would be the best way to get in on the ground floor of preparing to write for Pathfinder. I am not saying anything will come of this, but why wait till the novel line is legitimized. Paizo has their plans and will carry them out as they see fit. But why wait till then? We can create our own excitement here. We can practice at making better submissions. We can even critique the work that has already been published.

Let's get this thing going.

Naturally Vic, we would run this through you before anything concrete goes up. If we have to we can change the names and such.

Cheers,
Zuxius

There is an identical post that has been put up in the RPG Superstar thread as well.


Damn, post eaten.

Basically sign me up, check out my thread Pathfinder shards of the past in campaign journals and tell me if thats what your looking for.

Thanks
-V

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Zuxius wrote:
Naturally Vic, we would run this through you before anything concrete goes up.

Our community use policy has just completed legal review; we have a handful of things to do before it's released, but I anticipate it will happen in February.

It will provide for a way for you to do this.

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Vic Wertz wrote:
Zuxius wrote:
Naturally Vic, we would run this through you before anything concrete goes up.

Our community use policy has just completed legal review; we have a handful of things to do before it's released, but I anticipate it will happen in February.

It will provide for a way for you to do this.

Oooooh Thank You Vic! Always ahead of the game, and I mean in a good way! I look forward to reading it.

Cheers,
Zuxius

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vagrant-poet wrote:

Damn, post eaten.

Basically sign me up, check out my thread Pathfinder shards of the past in campaign journals and tell me if thats what your looking for.

Thanks
-V

Ok, Vagrant-Poet. You and I will talk in the weeks ahead. Let's use this General Discussion thread to throw ideas around. I have been brainstorming all day. If your name says anything, I do believe Poetry will be in the mix.

Also, can you hyperlink your thread for me.

Cheers,
Zux

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Here is the idea for what I would like the group to do. I gave it a shiny "changeable" name.

Pathfinder Chroniclers

About Us:
We, the Pathfinder Chroniclers are a group of professional and non-professional writers creating works based on Paizo’s Pathfinder world of Golarion. Our goal is to create “publishable works” which we can proudly present on our website. We will focus on writing and critiquing each other so that we may grow as writers and improve in our craft. The emphasis of our group will be to keep each other on topic and within Paizo’s established Pathfinder setting.

Cheers,
Zux


I am certainly interested in the idea of the project. I want to improve as a writer more than just about anything else.

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Zombieneighbours wrote:

I am certainly interested in the idea of the project. I want to improve as a writer more than just about anything else.

Is the aim to focus on improve story prose or game design elements? or both for that matter.

Hello Zombieneighbours!

Here is your answer.

The aim is to improve as a writer as well as a writer that knows Pathfinder's universe well. Both are essential. Suggestions by your peers (within our group) can only result in you finding your real hindsights as a writer. The "mini-hindsights" might take a more professional eye. I think many of us will educate each other in the finer points of Pathfinder's lore, themes, histories and organizations. All of these things can be found in the products Paizo has provided us, but I am sure some of us need to be shown what exactly it was that we....misread.

Story prose (or any prose for that matter) really depends on what you are attempting to write. Is it a letter to a Golarion king? An episodic "2 page" cliffhanger? A 32 page short story? A chapter in your novel? A Shakespeare-like poem chronicle? The scope of which we will be working on will be limited to Golarion, but the range of writing you may use is rather limitless.

Game design elements can be helpful in playing out action sequences, realistic spell castings and just about anything "in game" that you would like to recreate dramtically in writing. I have been told that "Salvatore" is masterful in describing his fights. I have no doubt that this is coupled with his knowledge of gameplay within D&D. However, I think a player can adequately have such knowledge too.

So, you won't be needing game designer experience to write a great novel set in Golarion, but gameplay experience wouldn't hurt.

Look forward to hearing more from you. And those were good questions!

Cheers,
Zuxius


Indeed I have done some poetry in my (feeble) work. I really like this idea. I've been writing little side projects on and off during my exams, as I can't get back into my bigger piece. So this is a great way to improve my writing style and technique.

Link to my on site, so-far four part thingy:-
Pathfinder Chronicles: Shards of the Past Its only a bit over a thousand words because my exams and life kept me busy.

An example of something else I did:-
House of Cards

I also can draw a little, nothing like Hugo Solis or other professionals, but my portraits aren't that bad and I've been practicising the paizo gnome.


It seems that my last post disappeared into the ether, so I'll just say this:

Wanna be the next Salvatore? Who doesn't?

You might as well try to be the next Brad Pitt. Look at it this way:
100 unknown actors are trying out for a part. Some of them are very good, and would do a fine job. They get their hopes up.

Then Mr. Pitt walks in. Who's gonna get the job now? Right. The guy who will put booties in theater seats. That's the bottom line (pun intended).

The last I looked, WotC wouldn't accept any unsolicited submissions, and for good reason. They've got their Brad Pitt(s). Why take a chance on someone who may or may not make them money? Salvatore, Cunningham, et. al., have proven that they can, year after year.

Paizo is a business, taking big risks, working on a great game system and gameworld. They've got writers who can deliver the goods, and more (already established) who would like to.

As an amateur who knows the odds, I still write anyway. I look forward to anything I can learn, and I'll try to contribute, too:

The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog. Sparkle, his magic scimitar, cut deep into the dog's armor, a spray of blood gushing from the fresh wound.

I'll have to work on it... ;)

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Dave Young 992 wrote:

...

The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog. Sparkle, his magic scimitar, cut deep into the dog's armor, a spray of blood gushing from the fresh wound.

I'll have to work on it... ;)

ROFL!

As a long-time writer and editor (mostly technical, but some early D&D), I understand your Brad Pitt comparison, but there is a very good niche for "Fanzine" writing. It rarely makes any money, but it does provide the very satisfying "I've been *PUBLISHED*" feeling.

I'll be glad to be a (small) part of this effort if I can aid in any way.


I think that one thing that might be useful, is to write web pages from the point of view of various Golarions.

A similar thing was done with the World of Greyhawk. I was starting a campaign in that world's Theocracy of the Pale, and only had the dry description in the Living Greyhawk Gazetteer to go on. Then I found these web pages, link , and found plenty of material I could use to bring the Pale alive.

A similar resource for Golaron would be nice.


Dave Young 992 wrote:

It seems that my last post disappeared into the ether, so I'll just say this:

Wanna be the next Salvatore? Who doesn't?

You might as well try to be the next Brad Pitt. Look at it this way:
100 unknown actors are trying out for a part. Some of them are very good, and would do a fine job. They get their hopes up.

Yeah, yeah, I'm sure that's what they told Brad Pitt and R.A. Salvatore when they were unknown. "Who do you want to be? Tom Cruise/Piers Anthony?" I'm sure that's what they told J.K. Rowling when nobody knew who Harry Potter was. Back in the 1930s, people were asking Isaac Asimov why he was messing around with all this "science fiction stuff".

The business always needs new talent. Isaac Asimov is not around anymore. Piers Anthony still is, but in my humble opinion his latest books no longer have the inspiration that his earlier works have. Some day R.A. Salvatore and J.K. Rowling and Brad Pitt will die, and other people will take their place.

Paizo has writers, sure, but is anybody writing a breathtaking series set on Liavara? I'm not running a business, but if I were, I'd be aware of turnover and business growth and keep an eye out for new talent. If a writing job does open up at Paizo, I would guess that someone who has already shown familiarity with the company and its products and a love for its product line might have a shot.

Anyway, the way to learn writing is to write. I guess I should stop posting and write something...

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Dave Young 992 wrote:


Wanna be the next Salvatore? Who doesn't?

Agreed! Being Brad Pitt should not be the goal. I prefer being either better or different (hopefully both). However, I don't think our group will benchmark ourselves based on other's accomplishments (tho the roads they took to get there might be interesting). We can sure try to be like other authors, but the truth is we will never be them. I think it would be much better if we go out and blaze our own trails. But, enough of that fluffy thinking.

Dave, we will just have to see how this all figures in. The idea of creating this site and the very important group behind it would be a far cry better than doing nothing. It is quite literally, a time for action. We need to sharpen our swords, shine our shields and kick our squires in the butt so we can get on our horses and ride hard and long. This organization has now become attached to my namesake and I will see it to its greatest heighths.......hell or high water.

The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog. Sparkle, his magic scimitar, cut deep into the dog's armor, a spray of blood gushing from the fresh wound. The wound suddenly gave way to teeth and the dog that had once appeared canine now became some mutated beast with a lust for foxtail swamp weeds.

Cheers,
Zuxius


Is there a site yet? And may I put forward an important movement for consideration in such a project?


Good points, all.

Despite the difficulty of it all, somebody's going to be the next in line. Pitt, Rowling, et.al., were once just struggling unknowns like most of us.

Let us be undeterred in our dedication to the craft, and the continued improvement of PRPG, any way we can! Write! Draw! Have a good time while you're at it! Share!

"Who dares disturb my slumber?" said the mutant dog, realizing that wasn't very original. What was stranger was that he could speak English.
He cast Sanctuary, blocking the fox's next attack, knowing he had a crappy save.
"Now be gone, quick brown fox! I've got lazing to do!"

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Dave Young 992 wrote:


Wanna be the next Salvatore? Who doesn't?

You might as well try to be the next Brad Pitt. Look at it this way:
100 unknown actors are trying out for a part. Some of them are very good, and would do a fine job. They get their hopes up.

Hmm--I think it all depends on what you're after. But either way, personal satisfaction is the right place to start. In keeping with the acting analogy, I think it's valid to propose that things like community theater, and other alternative venues can offer actors wonderful, fulfilling creative outlets--in fact, while they may not pull in the kind of money that Mr. Pitt commands, there are some who would assert that being away from Hollywood'$ grasp also frees them from popular sentiment and allows them to create and experiment with much more freedom.

Don't get me wrong, Dave--you nailed it and I'm glad you write anyway, we all should be so commited--but there's no reason to not aspire to greatness from the start, no matter what the venue.

Paizo Employee Director of Brand Strategy

Given Vic's post above, I might suggest waiting a few weeks before jumping into this with a website and such. As one of the admins on the wiki, we've sort of been gritting our teeth about the forthcoming fan-use policy, especially when we consider that the wiki has over a thousand articles on the Pathfinder Chronicles campaign setting. The idea of going through an editing them all to adhere to unknown guidelines is daunting. Save yourself the trouble and make sure you're following the letter of the law from the get-go.

Now that I've said that, I'm also interested in trying my hand at some fiction. Writing encyclopedic articles on Golarion for the last year has my mouth watering to create some great new stories set in the world.

And I also recommend checking out the wiki and writing some (canon-only) articles there as a way of learning the world better during the fiction-writing process. You can find it here.

Sczarni

yoda8myhead wrote:
And I also recommend checking out the wiki and writing some (canon-only) articles there as a way of learning the world better during the fiction-writing process. You can find it here.

Thats what I did when I started my Nano (which I never finished... still slowly working on it) It was set in Riddleport, so as I was reading the riddleport article for background and feel, I noticed that most of my notes could easily be expanded into articles for the Wiki. The only one I've written so far is the Cyphergate...

Can someone please figure out how to make the day be 36 hours long so I can get some writing done: fiction, poetry, and wiki articles are all vying for my 5 minutes a day (on good days )of time.


Cpt_kirstov wrote:
yoda8myhead wrote:
And I also recommend checking out the wiki and writing some (canon-only) articles there as a way of learning the world better during the fiction-writing process. You can find it here.

Thats what I did when I started my Nano (which I never finished... still slowly working on it) It was set in Riddleport, so as I was reading the riddleport article for background and feel, I noticed that most of my notes could easily be expanded into articles for the Wiki. The only one I've written so far is the Cyphergate...

Can someone please figure out how to make the day be 36 hours long so I can get some writing done: fiction, poetry, and wiki articles are all vying for my 5 minutes a day (on good days )of time.

Try reading Don Astlett's book How To Have a 48 Hour Day. He has a lot of good advice in that book.

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Taolin wrote:


I'll be glad to be a (small) part of this effort if I can aid in any way.

Yes Taolin, all help will be appreciated. As new people head into this discussion I would like to have everyone put forth their resources in making this happen. Or, what it is you can bring to the table in getting this project off the ground. Building a website does require a degree of confidence as well as Ka-ching.

Cheers,
Zuxius

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Utgardloki wrote:

I think that one thing that might be useful, is to write web pages from the point of view of various Golarions.

A similar thing was done with the World of Greyhawk. I was starting a campaign in that world's Theocracy of the Pale, and only had the dry description in the Living Greyhawk Gazetteer to go on. Then I found these web pages, link , and found plenty of material I could use to bring the Pale alive.

A similar resource for Golaron would be nice.

Hey Utgardloki,

I don't see why we can't have fun with the website as long as we don't get too obscured with its purpose.

Cheers,
Zuxius

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Utgardloki wrote:

The business always needs new talent. Isaac Asimov is not around anymore. Piers Anthony still is, but in my humble opinion his latest books no longer have the inspiration that his earlier works have. Some day R.A. Salvatore and J.K. Rowling and Brad Pitt will die, and other people will take their place.

Paizo has writers, sure, but is anybody writing a breathtaking series set on Liavara? I'm not running a business, but if I were, I'd be aware of turnover and business growth and keep an eye out for new talent. If a writing job does open up at Paizo, I would guess that someone who has already shown familiarity with the company and its products and a love for its product line might have a shot.

Hey there again Utgardloki,

I have always believed the cure for all the worlds problems can be found uniquely somewhere within individuals that are railroaded in the wrong path. These people make everyone who think they are the best in their field, look pretty shoddy. They have more talent in their pinky than the praised minds that hold authority. We all have a unique purpose that needs to be unlocked. Genuis talent will rise to the top if it get's a chance to shine. This project is not about the odds, but more about ignoring them.

Cheers,
Zuxius

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vagrant-poet wrote:
Is there a site yet? And may I put forward an important movement for consideration in such a project?

There is no site. There is no group. There is only the idea. This thread is the dreamy feely brainstorming that will lead to more concrete things to come. I do not consider myself the leader nor the authority. I proposed the idea, and I will carry this work till someone better decides to come along and carry the torch farther and faster. However, I will carry it till I feel it would better serve everyone in someone else's hands. I will dust off my webpage skills (and books) and do the research till a site is born. Though I am absolutely certain there are others out there who could do this kind of work in their sleep.

We do have someone volunteering their artistic skills, if that helps someone jump off the fence.

Cheers,
Zuxius

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Dave Young 992 wrote:

Good points, all.

Let us be undeterred in our dedication to the craft, and the continued improvement of PRPG, any way we can! Write! Draw! Have a good time while you're at it! Share!

Super Dave!

As long as the goal is to always improve, there is no end to what you can accomplish. Positive thinking can be....rather narrow minded, but why not take a bit of delusion before you start "make believing".

Cheers,
Zuxius

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Ferguson Finn wrote:

Hmm--I think it all depends on what you're after. But either way, personal satisfaction is the right place to start. In keeping with the acting analogy, I think it's valid to propose that things like community theater, and other alternative venues can offer actors wonderful, fulfilling creative outlets--in fact, while they may not pull in the kind of money that Mr. Pitt commands, there are some who would assert that being away from Hollywood'$ grasp also frees them from popular sentiment and allows them to create and experiment with much more freedom.

Don't get me wrong, Dave--you nailed it and I'm glad you write anyway, we all should be so commited--but there's no reason to not aspire to greatness from the start, no matter what the venue.

It is true that some movie actors consider the theatre as "real acting". It's almost as if some actors don't enjoy making movies opposed to hearing the applause onstage. A lot of famous actors came from "circles" that had no other intent than to improve themselves. I watched a Biography the other day on T.V. about Martin Short. I could not believe this actor rubbed noses with John Candy, Dan Akroyd and a few other famous fellas during their time with Second City TV. It was obvious to me that greatness (of each of these individuals) rubbed off on the other and made them into an unstoppable force. They became a Tour De Force that made them hot commodities in the 80's. Just to be affiliated with SCTV was a "shoe-in" for Saturday Night Live.

That is what I would hope for us as writers within Pathfinder Chroniclers. The whole thing should be wicked fun, but never cease in raising standards till they are viewed by all as a better source than what exists outside.

Cheers,
Zuxius

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vagrant-poet wrote:
And may I put forward an important movement for consideration in such a project?

Vagrant-poet,

My ideas are not concrete, especially if you have better ones.

Cheers,
Zuxius

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yoda8myhead wrote:

Given Vic's post above, I might suggest waiting a few weeks before jumping into this with a website and such. As one of the admins on the wiki, we've sort of been gritting our teeth about the forthcoming fan-use policy, especially when we consider that the wiki has over a thousand articles on the Pathfinder Chronicles campaign setting. The idea of going through an editing them all to adhere to unknown guidelines is daunting. Save yourself the trouble and make sure you're following the letter of the law from the get-go.

Now that I've said that, I'm also interested in trying my hand at some fiction. Writing encyclopedic articles on Golarion for the last year has my mouth watering to create some great new stories set in the world.

And I also recommend checking out the wiki and writing some (canon-only) articles there as a way of learning the world better during the fiction-writing process. You can find it here.

Hello yoda8myhead,

This is a valid point, but considering the work and participation that will be needed to muster our group into action; it may well take awhile before we see anything substantial anyway. If for some odd reason Paizo is extremely restrictive, than this group will just skip and hop around that legal jargon and go about its business anyway. I will continue the work of infrastructure till we have the finer details to read. Our organization will respect Paizo and its copyright laws, and we will write about Pathfinder's world of Golarion. If the two cannot be done together, than perhaps Paizo has been bought out by WotC. I really don't see that happening either way.

yoda8myhead, I love Wiki. It is the coolest thing since microwaved popcorn. You should be proud of yourself for bringing Pathfinder to its immensity. Reading the Star Wars stuff on wiki the other night was completely mindboggling fun. The depth. The vastness. Good good stuff. Writing a canon-only article does sound like a good idea.

Cheers,
Zuxius


My idea, was to cement a wholeness and consistency in the world by adhering, and helping each other adhere, to the idea behind the rules.

It's not our Earth, but it does have its own internal rules. If we have a policy by which we try and keep spells and magic consistent, by implementing and describing the uses of Divine Focuses and spell components, where neccesary, we can add a wealth of flavour just from the rules, and add an element to each story which transcends the writing style and subject to make the world of Golarion a singular planet, where certain things can be found everywhere, just like laughter, or love. Magic, as dictated by the rules could be a universal concept, at least recognisable for magic world-wide, this also helps distinguish psionics, and divine from arcane, and sorcerer from standard wizard.

And people who dislike material components can write sorcerers, and wizards with eschew materials.

The wizard casts 'fireball'

replaced with

crushing the powdered guano between his fingers, the wizard raised his hand, and intoning the words of power snapped his fingers apart. A point of orange light shot from his hand like a meteor to strike among the goblins and ignite the very air with a 'fireball'.

as the first casting, then the shorthand can be used, as what a fireball is, and appears as, is established.

Also, the divine focus is a great flavour element to clerics, who can literally be seen calling on and imposing the power of their patron deity on reality.

Well thats my two scents, though bat guano is one component I find odd, the idea is, I think, a great step towards unity and cohesion in the world.

Dark Archive

While it's been a little while since I've been able to churn out good writing in the same manner I used to (I used to laugh at the idea of three pages a day, until real life intervened), I would definitely be interested in joining a writing club for reading and critique, especially one centered around Golarion.

So that would be a "count me in".

Paizo Employee Director of Brand Strategy

vagrant-poet wrote:

My idea, was to cement a wholeness and consistency in the world by adhering, and helping each other adhere, to the idea behind the rules.

It's not our Earth, but it does have its own internal rules. If we have a policy by which we try and keep spells and magic consistent, by implementing and describing the uses of Divine Focuses and spell components, where neccesary, we can add a wealth of flavour just from the rules, and add an element to each story which transcends the writing style and subject to make the world of Golarion a singular planet, where certain things can be found everywhere, just like laughter, or love. Magic, as dictated by the rules could be a universal concept, at least recognisable for magic world-wide, this also helps distinguish psionics, and divine from arcane, and sorcerer from standard wizard.

This is a great suggestion. Perhaps I'm a little biased, but it seems that a wiki would serve your needs for describing these things and indexing them. Adding wikimedia to a site is simple, so once you get one established you should be able to do so. As for setting up the website itself, something like Wordpress might be a good way to go, since hosting isn't an issue and you can provide multiple people access to posting. It would also allow for multiple collaborators to edit and comment on one another's work. I believe there's even a way to keep posts private so that you can work on the editing before making them public.


I'm interested in a writer's group as well because it doesn't matter if someone will be the next R.A. Salvatore or even the next Isaac Asimov, it just matters that they enjoy writing! There's nothing wrong with painting for fun with no aspirations of being a Van Gogh (I like my ears intact, thank you).

Sovereign Court RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16, 2011 Top 32

I'd be game for this.


I also want to throw my hat into the ring. Questions:

Is there a place set up to accecpt entries yet?

Is it alright to write serials/ journal-esque stories focusing on a region or traveling character?

Are there rules set up as to what content/tone of writing will be included. For example, is it PG-13, G, or NC-17, etc?

Lastly, is it possible to work with someone from the get-go on a particular story or motif?


My aim is to write better than Brad Pitt.

I've read a fair amount of fanzines, semiprozines and others, have written a thing or two for those and so forth...and that world has its own appeal and own rules. Comparisons to Salvatore should be made only for people who try to be Salvatore, not people who just write for fun or who try to be, say, next Gaiman or James Joyce.

I'll be interested in seeing that legal review (since fanfiction always has legal entanglements which are good to know beforehand).

Generally I am interested, even though I don't think I will be doing much heroic fantasy...

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Vic Wertz wrote:
Zuxius wrote:
Naturally Vic, we would run this through you before anything concrete goes up.

Our community use policy has just completed legal review; we have a handful of things to do before it's released, but I anticipate it will happen in February.

It will provide for a way for you to do this.

wohoo

I am in... I just need to sit and write

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vagrant-poet wrote:

My idea, was to cement a wholeness and consistency in the world by adhering, and helping each other adhere, to the idea behind the rules.

It's not our Earth, but it does have its own internal rules. If we have a policy by which we try and keep spells and magic consistent, by implementing and describing the uses of Divine Focuses and spell components, where neccesary, we can add a wealth of flavour just from the rules, and add an element to each story which transcends the writing style and subject to make the world of Golarion a singular planet, where certain things can be found everywhere, just like laughter, or love. Magic, as dictated by the rules could be a universal concept, at least recognisable for magic world-wide, this also helps distinguish psionics, and divine from arcane, and sorcerer from standard wizard.

i agree in the 1st part to adhere to the world, and help other do such, basally wea reall here more for what Golarion is and could be than just rules... and while rules are all encompasing they don't always translate well in fiction...

about magic... i believe everyone describes different an spell or other effects, as much as there are different methodologies to do similar things... here I take a lot from Mage: The Awakening in which you can make an spell in dozen different ways... and is still the same spell.

Rathian was tired of running and was now standing in the middle of the street, waiting for the half dozen thugs to appear around the corner. As soon as he saw the first one appear the air surrounding him became hotter and hotter, but he could barely feel the heat as he was concentrating in the old azlani words he recently learned. His hands came toguether in front of his torso, the heat becoming almost unbereable, and as the last thug was in the street the heat in his hands became a rowling ball of fire that Rathian with great pleasure released against his enemies... the fiery explosion that followed was beyond what Rathian had been expecting, so he ran away leaving the half dozen bodies smoldering in the middle of the street.

Ken Marable wrote:
I'm interested in a writer's group as well because it doesn't matter if someone will be the next R.A. Salvatore or even the next Isaac Asimov, it just matters that they enjoy writing! There's nothing wrong with painting for fun with no aspirations of being a Van Gogh (I like my ears intact, thank you).

I agree whole heartedly

this is a humble story but the only thing about Golarion is the mention of Iomedae, in a 2nd part I mention a bit more... but that is still in half-way in spanish

it is in Deviantart, but most people don't see it the Download section, so i just add the direct link to the html interested in checking and commenting it

Patrick Murphy wrote:

Questions:

Is there a place set up to accecpt entries yet?

Is it alright to write serials/ journal-esque stories focusing on a region or traveling character?

Are there rules set up as to what content/tone of writing will be included. For example, is it PG-13, G, or NC-17, etc?

Lastly, is it possible to work with someone from the get-go on a particular story or motif?

what type of history or how its writen, if is done as an story or ajournal i suppose its personal choice

about how to tone the stories I suppose we should wait for Vic to tell us what are Paizo's rules... beyond that we can separate them

the third question, since i am not native speaker i do not understand "get-go" :P so no idea about this one

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magdalena thiriet wrote:
Generally I am interested, even though I don't think I will be doing much heroic fantasy...

any fantasy is good fantasy

also you make a good point... i believe most of us would write for the love of writing and the fun of it... and while getting published is a noble goal it should not allienate fun

and you are also right R.A. Salvatore covers a nich of the market, i have only read his novilization of Clone Wars (pretty good), but in general after lots of comments I would prefer to push myself to the GRR Martin standars... not to be him, but after reading A Game of Thrones it leaves me with a lot of appreciation for such a deep and complete work


The way I understand it, 'get-go' is an expression meaning 'from the beginning'.


I am not participating, but I saw the question about 'get-go'. You are correct as far as I know it has meant 'from the start' or 'from the beginning'. An example could be to be a good worker from the 'get-go' of getting the job.

Just my 2 cp.


Interesting developments. I'll be watching this thread and may be interested in participating, maybe not. I'm always looking to sharpen my writing skillz.

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mmm interesting, thanks for clearing it :)


Montalve wrote:

i agree in the 1st part to adhere to the world, and help other do such, basally wea reall here more for what Golarion is and could be than just rules... and while rules are all encompasing they don't always translate well in fiction...

about magic... i believe everyone describes different an spell or other effects, as much as there are different methodologies to do similar things... here I take a lot from Mage: The Awakening in which you can make an spell in dozen different ways... and is still the same spell.

Ah, maybe I didnt make that totally clear, different wizards and so will definately cast in different ways, for sorcerers this is practically encouraged, but I want to keep the material components, divine focuses and other general components of the spells intact. If ya get my meaning?

Also @Yoda8myhead

A wiki for that is a great idea, I'd happily do spell descriptions for the writing club or maybe the Pathfinder wiki. It'd add a nice falvour and reference to the world, I think. And all I need is the Spell section of the rules, with its list of components, and the basic mechanics and appearances of the spell.

Would it be better served, and find a place on pathfinder wiki? with a link from the budding writing site?

Opinions?

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vagrant-poet wrote:

My idea, was to cement a wholeness and consistency in the world by adhering, and helping each other adhere, to the idea behind the rules.

It's not our Earth, but it does have its own internal rules. If we have a policy by which we try and keep spells and magic consistent, by implementing and describing the uses of Divine Focuses and spell components, where neccesary, we can add a wealth of flavour just from the rules, and add an element to each story which transcends the writing style and subject to make the world of Golarion a singular planet, where certain things can be found everywhere, just like laughter, or love. Magic, as dictated by the rules could be a universal concept, at least recognisable for magic world-wide, this also helps distinguish psionics, and divine from arcane, and sorcerer from standard wizard.

Now that is good, real good. Though I would hate to see that exact description copied and pasted in every spell cast, I do feel that is a great idea. I think the action would dictate the description. There are a lot of styles that would be cramped by going through certain hoops, but then again you hit more points that are inline with what this whole project is about. I find no problem with what you are saying. Some campaign novels read like the author wrote their book and then ported it sloppily into the setting. I agree that the writing should be Golarion first and creative desire the lap dog.

Good Vagrant!

Cheers,
Ted

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ArgoForg wrote:

While it's been a little while since I've been able to churn out good writing in the same manner I used to (I used to laugh at the idea of three pages a day, until real life intervened), I would definitely be interested in joining a writing club for reading and critique, especially one centered around Golarion.

So that would be a "count me in".

Thank You ArgoForg. As it stands now, I believe there will be two groups involved in this club. The ones that build the clubhouse (so far just me), and the club that makes it worth being in (sounds like you).

Are there any clubhouse builders out there?

Cheers,
Zuxius


No problem at all, and I'll contribute as much as I can, certainly getting the most popular spells up. And working my way through the rest if no-one else gets to em first.

I'm unfortunately a bit of a chronic catalogue and chronicler, so Its a project I embrace already! :D

So, I'm fully on-board with this project, I wont be much help alas with making the site, but I'll contribute as much effort and writing as I can to it. I'll maybe start some of the spell stuff now, before the site goes up, and when we've seen the legal stuff, etc. Maybe we could put together like a site policy on Golarion consistency. Just an idea.

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yoda8myhead wrote:
As for setting up the website itself, something like Wordpress might be a good way to go, since hosting isn't an issue and you can provide multiple people access to posting. It would also allow for multiple collaborators to edit and comment on one another's work. I believe there's even a way to keep posts private so that you can work on the editing before making them public.

I will look into this tonight. I am the old school when it comes to building websites. Find a host. Build an informative site. Have a useful messageboard. You know. It has been like 10 years since I built my last one. So, I am not looking forward to this, but I will look into it.

Cheers,
Zuxius

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vagrant-poet wrote:

No problem at all, and I'll contribute as much as I can, certainly getting the most popular spells up. And working my way through the rest if no-one else gets to em first.

I'm unfortunately a bit of a chronic catalogue and chronicler, so Its a project I embrace already! :D

So, I'm fully on-board with this project, I wont be much help alas with making the site, but I'll contribute as much effort and writing as I can to it. I'll maybe start some of the spell stuff now, before the site goes up, and when we've seen the legal stuff, etc. Maybe we could put together like a site policy on Golarion consistency. Just an idea.

I find your ideas very much inline with my own. It is also good that you have your own inner fire to create meaningful material that would go above and beyond what some would do. Website building is no picnic, but once it is done there is infinite expandability. The only tricky thing is when your audience outgrows your bandwith. I am willing to take this as deep as it can go.

Cheers,
Ted

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Ken Marable wrote:
I'm interested in a writer's group as well because it doesn't matter if someone will be the next R.A. Salvatore or even the next Isaac Asimov, it just matters that they enjoy writing! There's nothing wrong with painting for fun with no aspirations of being a Van Gogh (I like my ears intact, thank you).

I forsee a lot of interest in posting material about Pathfinder. I also think that we may have degrees of seriousness in what is posted or what type of material will be posted. I want everyone to have fun with this, even people that just want to post for casual viewing with no pressure. The important thing will be maintaining more strict rules under certain areas of the boards.

Cheers,
Zuxius

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Ken Marable wrote:
I'm interested in a writer's group as well because it doesn't matter if someone will be the next R.A. Salvatore or even the next Isaac Asimov, it just matters that they enjoy writing! There's nothing wrong with painting for fun with no aspirations of being a Van Gogh (I like my ears intact, thank you).

Anyhoo Ken,

keep me posted in what you think and I will try my darndest to see it happen.

James Martin wrote:
I'd be game for this.

Yea, ain't it cool!

Seeya there James.

Cheers,
Ted

Patrick Murphy wrote:

I also want to throw my hat into the ring. Questions:

Is there a place set up to accecpt entries yet?

Is it alright to write serials/ journal-esque stories focusing on a region or traveling character?

Are there rules set up as to what content/tone of writing will be included. For example, is it PG-13, G, or NC-17, etc?

Lastly, is it possible to work with someone from the get-go on a particular story or motif?

Accept entries? Eer, aah, nope. This is the ground floor. I am looking to find a core that will assist in building the site. As for the details, I will have to see about that. Usually, those that wish to jump in and contribute have their own ideas and they can be pretty influential when they bring a lot to the table. This isn't the first collaborative site I have been involved in. It certainly won't be the last. I would hope, however, that the contributors that help me get this off the ground are mature enough to keep the goal first and their own personal desires second. That doesn't always happen though, and I am good with that. Sometimes you need to let go of the reigns and see what those horses can do when they really open up.

Cheers,
Zuxius

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