Not to thread-jack, but reading this:
I thought that was seriously out-of-wack. Armor/ No Armor/ Stealth should all use the base DC, and add/subtract Stealth Ranks and Armor Penalty where appropriate... Otherwise, why NOT take one Rank in Stealth, since you increase the Perception DC by +11/+16 ? (and that's NOT as a Class Skill).
Yeah, you can also use stealth untrained even if you have no ranks in it, and make the DC 20 +whatever you roll +dex mod. I really think the way perception, stealth, and invis work together really needs to be looked at. In 3.5 you could at least make a listen check without penalty to hear an invisible opponent, but somehow in Pathfinder invisibility makes you impossible to see or hear. (Well, according to RAW, any DM worth his salt is going to houserule that so fast it hurts.)
I can understand why one would feel this way. However this game does have a mechanical balancing factor to consider. You can't just make dex do what dex does and what str would already do for free, with exception of carrying capacity. That would make str a dump stat for everyone, and dex too good not to put a high stat in.
Now as for making some changes to better help them, yeah I can see having ranged combat adding their dex modifier on top of strength from a strength composite bow. This would help the DR problem a lot.
Yes, that you make Strength a dump stat for Ranged and two-weapon wielding chars and that is the whole point.
Especially for two-weapon wielding chars. They get additional attack but with -2 to all attacks, they cannot get 1.5x (and with new feats 2x) strength modifier to damage and their power attack is only -1 attack +1 damage. Although they will have 3 attacks more (and the 3rd is rarely ever going to hit) their damage is still going to be low since they will need to get their Dex to at least 19 to get all the feats, so they will have much lower Strength. Also the base damage of such weapons is lower (1d6 compared to 2d6 or 1d12).
I can understand why one would feel this way. However this game does have a mechanical balancing factor to consider. You can't just make dex do what dex does and what str would already do for free, with exception of carrying capacity. That would make str a dump stat for everyone, and dex too good not to put a high stat in.
Now as for making some changes to better help them, yeah I can see having ranged combat adding their dex modifier on top of strength from a strength composite bow. This would help the DR problem a lot.
Yes, that you make Strength a dump stat for Ranged and two-weapon wielding chars and that is the whole point.
Especially for two-weapon wielding chars. They get additional attack but with -2 to all attacks, they cannot get 1.5x (and with new feats 2x) strength modifier to damage and their power attack is only -1 attack +1 damage. Although they will have 3 attacks more (and the 3rd is rarely ever going to hit) their damage is still going to be low since they will need to get their Dex to at least 19 to get all the feats, so they will have much lower Strength. Also the base damage of such weapons is lower (1d6 compared to 2d6 or 1d12).
Well I have my own solution to TWF, with out breaking the game balance like you purposed.
However I would have to say that combat maneuvers defenses should be based on dex or str which ever is better.
However I would have to say that combat maneuvers defenses should be based on dex or str which ever is better.
Yes, your proposal is an interesting one, but I still feel my solution is better.
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Wow alot of number crutching going on. I play fighters all the time. Regardless of whether you are a fan of Dex based fighters or Muscle car fighters. I tend to play fighters and enjoy them because feats are their spells. No other class gets the abundance of feat choices so consistently. Feats are your friends. If you could be a 10th lvl fighter at 1st level then there would be no point in playing anything else. I think, from a humble roleplaying perspective, You need to decide what your field of expertise will be(TW Fighter, Ranged Figher, Big weapon fighter) and focus on that. This is a team sport not boxing...snicker. I play ranged fighters as well and have saved my parties butt on many an occasion. Same holds true with my straight melee. Being specific is the key to success with a fighter even before you crunch those numbers.
