Commence Nerd Rage: Picard Vs. Kirk


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hopeless wrote:
You forget where there is Picard there will always be Riker, so Kirk will never be forgotten (Well okay Riker is now married but my point is valid!)

Sisko is so far out in front of the others he can coast like Usain Bolt (how cool is that guy's name btw)!

Oh, and every time they said "Fire at Will" I imagined them blowing the crap out of that smug bastard Riker.

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Gotta go with Kirk. TOS was the most fun of all the series. Giant Space Lincoln making racially insensitive remarks to Uhura? A planet run by Mobsters? Spock's Freaking Brain!?!? How can you say no?

Besides, the Animated series had Kzinti in it. Kzinti rule.


Picard all the way!

:P

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Benchak the Nightstalker wrote:

Gotta go with Kirk. TOS was the most fun of all the series. Giant Space Lincoln making racially insensitive remarks to Uhura? A planet run by Mobsters? Spock's Freaking Brain!?!? How can you say no?

Besides, the Animated series had Kzinti in it. Kzinti rule.

And M'ress. Catgirls and Star Trek, the ultimate nerd dream.

Silver Crusade

Let's see. Both are very cool characters in different ways, but Kirk becomes a cop, then a lawyer? Meh. Picard, on the other hand morphs into Professor Xavier!

I gotta go with Picard.

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Shadewest wrote:

Let's see. Both are very cool characters in different ways, but Kirk becomes a cop, then a lawyer? Meh. Picard, on the other hand morphs into Professor Xavier!

I gotta go with Picard.

Kirk didn't just become a cop and a lawyer. He became William Shatner. As much as I love Xavier, No One can beat William Shatner.


I like...what's her name? To either Kirk or Picard. The caption of Voyager. It just feels like K and P can't ever do anything without having an unnecessarily long monologue before or after the fact. What's-her-name just gets sh!t done and then dictates a few lines to her journal afterward. Meh, Star Trek.

TS

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Benchak the Nightstalker wrote:
Kirk didn't just become a cop and a lawyer. He became William Shatner.

And that's when I actually started to like him. As Kirk he was a simplicist not worthy of the command he was given. I'd choose Picard any day over him.

If you ask about Dr. McCoy vs. Dr. Crusher or about Spock vs. Data, though, that's another story. What made Kirk survive was not his abilities but his friends.

Sisko depends on which season.


To stoke the fires, Kirk was just lucky. Picard was able.

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CourtFool wrote:
To stoke the fires, Kirk was just lucky. Picard was able.

Yes, but Cain killed Able.


Picard all the way. You can't beat that English accent. Don't even try.

"The line must be drawn here!"

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David Fryer wrote:
Brian Dunnell wrote:
Malcolm Reynolds
Cam Mitchell

Jack O'Neill.

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Nameless wrote:

Oh Kirk and Picard are great and all, but they're no Wesley Crusher.

...

Right?

** spoiler omitted **

Plus, he plays D&D.

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Daigle wrote:
Just sayin' fellas, ladies like Picard.

They like to rub his head.


Kirk FTW.

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Daigle wrote:
Just sayin' fellas, ladies like Picard.

Yih but do they like him like him?

Ryker= Kirk Jr!

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Evil Hoshi Sato. ;-)

Heck those two episodes were the best of the whole series.

Of the two, Kirk.

Picard: "Oh, these things are dangerous and unstoppable, my mysterious friend who Q even fears says so? I'll try to have a dialogue with them."

Kirk: "Oh this planet killer is nearly indestuctable and on its way to the delta quadrant through the alpha quadrant? I'll ram a starship down its throat!"

And the two are connected.

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Heathansson wrote:
Ryker= Kirk Jr!

"Will the Thrill? I never met a girl I didn't liker Ryker?"

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Matthew Morris wrote:

Evil Hoshi Sato. ;-)

Sweeeeeeeeeeeet.

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New scandalous opinion.

I didn't mind Wesley Crusher. He was surprisingly not-annoying, compared to the kid from Lost in Space or the uber-annoying kid from the original Battlestar Galactica run. (I'll get you Boxy and your little daggit, too!) Worf's kid was *way* more annoying.

The only character in the Next Gen crew that I loathed with a fiery passion was Riker. So. Darn. Annoying. Also, too much eyeliner. Guys with beards shouldn't wear eyeliner, unless they are dancing to We Are Family, if ya know what I mean.

My Star Trek-related nerd rage stems from the fact that awesome characters like Jadzia Dax, Kes and K'Ehleyr got killed off, and that the franchise moved on to aggravating female characters like 'I'm going to tell you how terribly disappointed I am that you did what I do all the time' Janeway and 'Oh, I'm <insert plot element of the day> phobic / allergic to X and / or neurotic!' Hoshi.

Ever since Uhura slapped Mirror Universe Sulu and told him that she 'changed her mind, again.' I've liked my Star Trek women to have *sass.*


Set wrote:
The only character in the Next Gen crew that I loathed with a fiery passion was Riker. So. Darn. Annoying. Also, too much eyeliner. Guys with beards shouldn't wear eyeliner, unless they are dancing to We Are Family, if ya know what I mean.

Come on guys! Riker was the bomb. I mean he came up with the Riker manuever. The Riker manuever was where you blow out flamable gas and then ignite it. He mastered this skill while at the academy during frat parties.

Seriously, how was it so hard for Wesley to get into Starfleet? I just kept looking at Riker and thinking, "Hell this moron got in, how is Wesley, aka Mary Sue, having so much trouble?"

Did anyone else notice that the first officer/original captain in Star Trek 1 was named Will Decker and had the hots for an alien that was identical to humans (except his was bald). I mean Will Decker, Will Riker? Hot alien babe? Not very original guys.

Also, Kirk got to be over Decker (the dad on 7th Heaven) and got on top of the whale scientist (the mom on 7th Heaven). It is a small universe my friends.

Favorite captain? Kirk, hell he fought a Gorn with a homemade cannon, it don't get much cooler than that.


David Fryer wrote:
Yes, but Cain killed Able.

Mc means ‘son of’ correct? Curious, that.

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New question: my dad and I used to spend hours arguing whether Wesley was really Jack Crusher's son or if he was really Picard's son. What do you guys think?


Jack’s. No self respecting Mary Sue would have a non-absent father.

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But Picard as his dad would ad a whole new dimension to the Jean Luc, why is there a kid on my bridge schtick. Overprotective dad seems better than kid hating jerk.

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CourtFool wrote:
Mc means ‘son of’ correct? Curious, that.

*Ominous music*


David Fryer wrote:
Overprotective dad seems better than kid hating jerk.

Better or a lot a worse? :P

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David Fryer wrote:
New question: my dad and I used to spend hours arguing whether Wesley was really Jack Crusher's son or if he was really Picard's son. What do you guys think?

Jack's.

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Sci-fi just reran the episode where Jean-Luc and Beverly were connected mind to mind and she didn't know he loved her. And then he told her the reason that he never (even after Jack's death) told her was that it was wrong because she was his best friend's wife.

For Star Trek Captains my pick would be Archer or Sisko.

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Captains of Star Trek vessels named Enterprise
which to choose which to choose?
Jonathan Archer · Robert April · Christopher Pike · James T. Kirk · Willard Decker · Spock · John Harriman · Rachel Garrett · Jean-Luc Picard · William Riker · Edward Jellico

Captain Spock


Crimson Jester wrote:

Captains of Star Trek vessels named Enterprise

which to choose which to choose?
Jonathan Archer · Robert April · Christopher Pike · James T. Kirk · Willard Decker · Spock · John Harriman · Rachel Garrett · Jean-Luc Picard · William Riker · Edward Jellico

Captain Spock

...if you put it like that...Spock.

Spock and McCoy indeed trump over Data, Crusher etc. though I admit liking Riker (and that replacement of Dr. Crusher on season two, what was her name?).

However, I dislike both Deanna Troi and that blonde assistant of Kirk.


Worf. Captained the Defiant during those five minutes of First Contact. You cannot beat a Klingon shouting to his crew "Then perhaps today IS a good day to die! Prepare for ramming speed!!"

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Crimson Jester wrote:

Captains of Star Trek vessels named Enterprise

which to choose which to choose?
Jonathan Archer · Robert April · Christopher Pike · James T. Kirk · Willard Decker · Spock · John Harriman · Rachel Garrett · Jean-Luc Picard · William Riker · Edward Jellico

Captain Spock

Well, since you decided to expand the list, I'd say Rachel Garrett. She was willing to sacrifice herself and her entire crew to restore a timeline that was damaged. That takes a pair.

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CourtFool wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
Yes, but Cain killed Able.
Mc means ‘son of’ correct? Curious, that.

So that means...

JOHN MCCAIN IS GRENDEL'S DADDY!

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The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
CourtFool wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
Yes, but Cain killed Able.
Mc means ‘son of’ correct? Curious, that.

So that means...

JOHN MCCAIN IS GRENDEL'S DADDY!

I wonder if Cindy is jealous that he slept with Angelina Jole?


Cindy strikes me as the kind what would want a piece of that action too. Not saying she swings that way…more like she swings whichever damn way she feels like at the time.


Susan Draconis wrote:
Worf. Captained the Defiant during those five minutes of First Contact. You cannot beat a Klingon shouting to his crew "Then perhaps today IS a good day to die! Prepare for ramming speed!!"

I'll take Martok for the best Klingon captain.

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Tequila Sunrise wrote:

I like...what's her name? To either Kirk or Picard. The caption of Voyager. It just feels like K and P can't ever do anything without having an unnecessarily long monologue before or after the fact. What's-her-name just gets sh!t done and then dictates a few lines to her journal afterward. Meh, Star Trek.

TS

you mean captain Kathryn Janeway, right?

and my vote has to go to Sisko. you wanna talk about just getting stuff done? he faces more intrigue, politics and people out to get him then all the others and not only survives, but he gets his space station to be one fo the most important places in the galaxy and becomes a prophet/messiah/alien/god in the process. Not bad for a guy who didn't even really want the job.

plus, he punches Q. none of the other captains would ever have punched Q. Q himself said so. or at least he said Picard. but his shocked reaction clearly indicates he meant all of the others.

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Kirk. All other captains pale in comparison. Kirk faced everything head on, didn't believe in no-win situations (see: Kabayashi Maru), and got all the chicks. Every enemy of the Federation was afraid of Kirk when it really got down to it.

There's a reason the Borg never showed up under Kirk's watch - They knew they'd have no chance. 7 of 9 would have been just another Kirk conquest, and the Borg would have been disassembled for scrap metal. Now, with Picard at the helm, they felt they had a shot...Kirk would never have been "assimilated".


kessukoofah wrote:
plus, he punches Q. none of the other captains would ever have punched Q. Q himself said so. or at least he said Picard. but his shocked reaction clearly indicates he meant all of the others.

The annoyed look when Q hit him was hilarious.


Larry Lichman wrote:

Kirk. All other captains pale in comparison. Kirk faced everything head on, didn't believe in no-win situations (see: Kabayashi Maru), and got all the chicks. Every enemy of the Federation was afraid of Kirk when it really got down to it.

There's a reason the Borg never showed up under Kirk's watch - They knew they'd have no chance. 7 of 9 would have been just another Kirk conquest, and the Borg would have been disassembled for scrap metal. Now, with Picard at the helm, they felt they had a shot...Kirk would never have been "assimilated".

Borg queen would have shown up and Kirk would have said, "Your missing all the good parts" and blasted her.


Kirk is my role model. I based all my morals on his. He was my father figure since I didn't have one of my own.

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David Fryer wrote:
The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
CourtFool wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
Yes, but Cain killed Able.
Mc means ‘son of’ correct? Curious, that.

So that means...

JOHN MCCAIN IS GRENDEL'S DADDY!

I wonder if Cindy is jealous that he slept with Angelina Jole?

Androids feel neither jealousy nor pain.

Paizo Employee Director of Sales

WRT the OP:

Denny Crane.

Thread over.

Spoiler:
Denny Crane

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Cosmo wrote:

WRT the OP:

Denny Crane.

Thread over.

** spoiler omitted **

TJ Hooker!

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The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
CourtFool wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
Yes, but Cain killed Able.
Mc means ‘son of’ correct? Curious, that.

So that means...

JOHN MCCAIN IS GRENDEL'S DADDY!

I wonder if Cindy is jealous that he slept with Angelina Jole?
Androids feel neither jealousy nor pain.

I said Cindy, not Hillary.


David Fryer wrote:
I said Cindy, not Hillary.

Veector needs to start another FIGHT thread.


pres man wrote:
Larry Lichman wrote:

Kirk. All other captains pale in comparison. Kirk faced everything head on, didn't believe in no-win situations (see: Kabayashi Maru), and got all the chicks. Every enemy of the Federation was afraid of Kirk when it really got down to it.

There's a reason the Borg never showed up under Kirk's watch - They knew they'd have no chance. 7 of 9 would have been just another Kirk conquest, and the Borg would have been disassembled for scrap metal. Now, with Picard at the helm, they felt they had a shot...Kirk would never have been "assimilated".

Borg queen would have shown up and Kirk would have said, "Your missing all the good parts" and blasted her.

And she would add his pathetic ship to the collective and show him the path to perfection.

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