How to Call a Pre-existing Ghost


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My PC is going to want to know how to summon a ghost that she knows exists at a theater. The problem is that the ghost only appears when a certain play is to be performed. She'll want to talk to it even though the play is not going to be performed. How might this work?

Scarab Sages

The spell you want is make manifest (Spell Compendium p. 137). It is a level 4 cleric spell or level 6 wizard spell. True seeing will allow you to see onto the ethereal plane to find the ghost (5th level cleric spell). That is the least taxing way to do it I can think of. Alternatively you can use the mass version of make manifest, but it is a 6th level cleric spell.

In any case, the spell allows a will save, so it might not work. You could also invest in a scroll of ethereal jaunt which would guarantee success, but it is 7th level, but you can flee the plane as a standard action.

Cost for true seeing/make manifest: 2,075 gp for scrolls.
Cost for mass make manifest: 1,650 gp for scroll (only affects 25ft radius)
Cost for ethereal jaunt: 2,275 gp for scroll.

Of course, this could be much cheaper if you are high enough level. You could also follow up with a dimensional anchor spell to trap the ghost once make manifest expires.

Using illusions to trick the ghost would require about the same level of spells, except you would need multiple castings of some, like major image to simulate actors.

Or, just have the PCs stage the play after researching how to do it.

Sovereign Court

You could also allow the ghost to be summoned under certain other circumstances, such as having it appear when someone simply reads the play aloud while standing on stage.


Shadowstar wrote:
You could also allow the ghost to be summoned under certain other circumstances, such as having it appear when someone simply reads the play aloud while standing on stage.

That might work, faking a rehearsal. 'Cause they already ran the play a couple of months ago.

Scarab Sages

roguerouge wrote:
Shadowstar wrote:
You could also allow the ghost to be summoned under certain other circumstances, such as having it appear when someone simply reads the play aloud while standing on stage.
That might work, faking a rehearsal. 'Cause they already ran the play a couple of months ago.

I guess it really depends on what about the play calls the ghost: is it the words, actions, costumes, or a combination? Could be a neat game of trial and error, maybe using Perform opposed by Sense Motive by the ghost.


roguerouge wrote:
My PC is going to want to know how to summon a ghost that she knows exists at a theater. The problem is that the ghost only appears when a certain play is to be performed. She'll want to talk to it even though the play is not going to be performed. How might this work?

Depending on how much your PC know's about the Ghost & the Ghost's HD you can use one of the Planar Binding spells. You don't have to know where the ghost is AND you can compel answers as your a service.

Scarab Sages

HJ wrote:
roguerouge wrote:
My PC is going to want to know how to summon a ghost that she knows exists at a theater. The problem is that the ghost only appears when a certain play is to be performed. She'll want to talk to it even though the play is not going to be performed. How might this work?
Depending on how much your PC know's about the Ghost & the Ghost's HD you can use one of the Planar Binding spells. You don't have to know where the ghost is AND you can compel answers as your a service.

That is a cool idea, except that planar binding only allows you to call an elemental or an outsider. Ghosts are not either, nor can they be.


Jal Dorak wrote:
That is a cool idea, except that planar binding only allows you to call an elemental or an outsider. Ghosts are not either, nor can they be.

Damn, I just checked the line that reads "to lure a creature from another plane to a specifically prepared trap." Oh well, back to the drawing board. Though Roguerouge as DM could allow it.

Scarab Sages

HJ wrote:
Jal Dorak wrote:
That is a cool idea, except that planar binding only allows you to call an elemental or an outsider. Ghosts are not either, nor can they be.
Damn, I just checked the line that reads "to lure a creature from another plane to a specifically prepared trap." Oh well, back to the drawing board. Though Roguerouge as DM could allow it.

By "specifically prepared trap" it usually means a magic circle spell used against the creatures alignment and prepared as a inward-focused trap.


Jal Dorak wrote:
roguerouge wrote:
Shadowstar wrote:
You could also allow the ghost to be summoned under certain other circumstances, such as having it appear when someone simply reads the play aloud while standing on stage.
That might work, faking a rehearsal. 'Cause they already ran the play a couple of months ago.
I guess it really depends on what about the play calls the ghost: is it the words, actions, costumes, or a combination? Could be a neat game of trial and error, maybe using Perform opposed by Sense Motive by the ghost.

The ghost tries to defend her masterpiece from hacks and hams.

Liberty's Edge

roguerouge wrote:
Jal Dorak wrote:
roguerouge wrote:
Shadowstar wrote:
You could also allow the ghost to be summoned under certain other circumstances, such as having it appear when someone simply reads the play aloud while standing on stage.
That might work, faking a rehearsal. 'Cause they already ran the play a couple of months ago.
I guess it really depends on what about the play calls the ghost: is it the words, actions, costumes, or a combination? Could be a neat game of trial and error, maybe using Perform opposed by Sense Motive by the ghost.
The ghost tries to defend her masterpiece from hacks and hams.

Then reading the play really poorly might work. The PCs could deliberately be overemotional, unemotional, etc.

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